Mitch McGovern 2: As The Worm Turns (read the OP)

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Not the first time I've drooled on glass...

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Stick to "GWS list is a mess"

Staggering....

It wasn’t for your benefit, it was at your benefit.

If you’re not smart enough to know when someone is playing to the crowd at your expense...

Would help if you knew anything about football

Anyway, what’s your view on why Freo’s head of football was promoted over SOS? I mean Freo’s guy over SOS?

Only a teenage girl with a crush can defend that ;)
 
Uh-huh. Super livid, from his holiday with Murphy and a few of the rest of the boys.

This is your board, so I'm not going to argue this too much. Suffice to say, I don't think either of us will convince the other of our respective points of view here.
Heres your problem. Graham Cornes is very close friends with Ross. After the trade fell through Cornes was on the radio and said he spoke to Ross and he said that Bryce was livid at how he was treated by Carlton.
So please, you have very little understanding about why he asked for a trade and how pissed he was that Carlton disregarded the serious issues they were dealing with.
 
You can speculate all you like. I feel in the end your going to be bitterly disappointed.


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I feel... your feelings aren’t based on reality
  1. Daniel Gorringe
  2. Matthew Wright
  3. Sam Kerridge
  4. Jed Lamb
  5. Andrew Phillips
  6. Lachie Plowman
  7. Liam Summer
  8. Caleb Marchbank
  9. Jarrod Pickett
  10. Rhys Palmer
  11. Matthew Lobbe
  12. Darcy Lang
  13. Aaron Mullett
Go team SOS! :D
 

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Only staggering if you don’t understand football. Which no Carlton supporter does. GWS is in all sorts of shit for the reasons mentioned

But whilst we are at it, let’s look over why you’d be better off with Terry Wallace as List Manager rather than the incompetent SOS

Players SOS has traded for or signed as free agents

  1. Daniel Gorringe
  2. Matthew Wright
  3. Sam Kerridge
  4. Jed Lamb
  5. Andrew Phillips
  6. Lachie Plowman
  7. Liam Summer
  8. Caleb Marchbank
  9. Jarrod Pickett
  10. Rhys Palmer
  11. Matthew Lobbe
  12. Darcy Lang
  13. Aaron Mullett
Not only is that a ******* big potato patch, many of those spuds he acquired for GWS in the first place

You need Terry Wallace as an upgrade

SOS is the worst[/QUOTG
Only staggering if you don’t understand football. Which no Carlton supporter does. GWS is in all sorts of shit for the reasons mentioned

But whilst we are at it, let’s look over why you’d be better off with Terry Wallace as List Manager rather than the incompetent SOS

Players SOS has traded for or signed as free agents

  1. Daniel Gorringe
  2. Matthew Wright
  3. Sam Kerridge
  4. Jed Lamb
  5. Andrew Phillips
  6. Lachie Plowman
  7. Liam Summer
  8. Caleb Marchbank
  9. Jarrod Pickett
  10. Rhys Palmer
  11. Matthew Lobbe
  12. Darcy Lang
  13. Aaron Mullett
Not only is that a ******* big potato patch, many of those spuds he acquired for GWS in the first place

You need Terry Wallace as an upgrade

SOS is the worst
Only staggering if you don’t understand football. Which no Carlton supporter does. GWS is in all sorts of shit for the reasons mentioned

But whilst we are at it, let’s look over why you’d be better off with Terry Wallace as List Manager rather than the incompetent SOS

Players SOS has traded for or signed as free agents

  1. Daniel Gorringe
  2. Matthew Wright
  3. Sam Kerridge
  4. Jed Lamb
  5. Andrew Phillips
  6. Lachie Plowman
  7. Liam Summer
  8. Caleb Marchbank
  9. Jarrod Pickett
  10. Rhys Palmer
  11. Matthew Lobbe
  12. Darcy Lang
  13. Aaron Mullett
Not only is that a ******* big potato patch, many of those spuds he acquired for GWS in the first place

You need Terry Wallace as an upgrade

SOS is the worst
What high level football have you ever played? Your club is a revolving door. Shall we list all of the talent you have lost? What have you actually achieved since 98. Nothing, you are a composite team with no heart and soul. You don’t even resemble a club. You showed Richmond no respect last year, romping around like try hards with your power pose. It’s all unraveling isn’t it?
 
What high level football have you ever played? Your club is a revolving door. Shall we list all of the talent you have lost? What have you actually achieved since 98. Nothing, you are a composite team with no heart and soul. You don’t even resemble a club. You showed Richmond no respect last year, romping around like try hards with your power pose. It’s all unraveling isn’t it?

Cool story Bro

Why do you think SOS was overlooked for head of football over a guy from Freo?

And how do you feel about this list:

  1. Daniel Gorringe
  2. Matthew Wright
  3. Sam Kerridge
  4. Jed Lamb
  5. Andrew Phillips
  6. Lachie Plowman
  7. Liam Summer
  8. Caleb Marchbank
  9. Jarrod Pickett
  10. Rhys Palmer
  11. Matthew Lobbe
  12. Darcy Lang
  13. Aaron Mullett
 
SOS does seem to have a way of attracting ex GWS talent to Carlton.
He brought in Jaksch, Palmer, Whiley, Sumner, Phillips , Lamb, Pickett, Plowman, Marchbank and Kennedy.
Great haul there and left the scraps for Collingwood...Treloar, Adams and Hoskin- Elliott.
He certainly has an elite eye for talent...Kerridge, Wright...
 
Carlton's trade and draft record since 2015. Let's call it, the SOS years.

Trades Out
Lachie Henderson (decent player)
Tom Bell (mediocre)
Troy Menzel (decent at Carlton)
Chris Yarran (off the rails)
Zach Tuohy (very good)
Bryce Gibbs (elite)

Players In
DFA - Daniel Gorringe (spud)
DFA - Matthew Wright (leading goal kicker)
Trade - Jed Lamb (mediocre)
Trade - Andrew Phillips (mediocre)
Trade - Lachie Plowman (okay)
Trade - Liam Sumner (spud)
Trade - Sam Kerridge (spud)
Draft - Jacob Weitering (hard to stuff up pick 1)
Draft - Harry McKay (looking good)
Draft - Charlie Curnow (elite)
Draft - David Cunningham (meh)
Draft - Jack Silvagni (spud, nepotism)
Trade - Billie Smedts (spud)
Trade - Caleb Marchbank (decent)
Trade - Jarrod Pickett (meh)
Trade - Rhys Palmer (awful)
Draft - Sam Petrevski-Seton (meh)
Draft - Zac Fisher (decent)
Draft - Harrison Macreadie (meh)
Draft - Cameron Polson (spud)
Draft - Patt Kerr (who?)
Rookie Draft - Alex Silvagni (mediocre)
Trade - Matt Kennedy (okay?)
Trade - Darcy Lang (spud)
Trade - Matthew Lobbe (spud)
Trade - Aaron Mullett (mediocre)
Draft - Paddy Dow (hard to stuff up pick 3)
Draft - Lachie O'Brien (decent)
Draft - Tom De Koning (who?)
Draft - Angus Schumacher (who?)
Draft - Jarrod Garlett (meh)
PSD - Cam O'Shea (worst player in the AFL)
Rookie Draft - Matt Shaw (spud)

I mean that's quite a list. Gorringe. Sumner. Lamb. Phillips. Kerridge. Smedts. Palmer. Silvagni. Lang. Lobbe. Mullett. O'Shea. Shaw.

It's genuinely hard to bring in that many players with AFL experience who are spuds. It's quite an achievement.

And boy does he like the best GWS players.
Lamb. Phillips. Plowman. Sumner. Marchbank. Pickett. Kennedy. Palmer.
How nice of him to leave Treloar, Steele, Ahern, McCarthy, Stewart, Hoskin-Elliott, Smith, and Wilson for the other clubs.

Combine that with this sort of trading:

Tuohy and Pick 22 for Pick 16, Pick 63 and Smedts
Pick 35 for Pick 48, Pick 66 and Pick 70

And I mean it's hard not to see why SOS is the master and why Carlton's list is amazing and elite and heading in a great direction.
 
SOS does seem to have a way of attracting ex GWS talent to Carlton.
He brought in Jaksch, Palmer, Whiley, Sumner, Phillips , Lamb, Pickett, Plowman, Marchbank and Kennedy.
Great haul there and left the scraps for Collingwood...Treloar, Adams and Hoskin- Elliott.
He certainly has an elite eye for talent...Kerridge, Wright...

How did I miss Whiley, Jaksch & Kennedy

My bad
 
Cool story Bro

Why do you think SOS was overlooked for head of football over a guy from Freo?

And how do you feel about this list:

  1. Daniel Gorringe
  2. Matthew Wright
  3. Sam Kerridge
  4. Jed Lamb
  5. Andrew Phillips
  6. Lachie Plowman
  7. Liam Summer
  8. Caleb Marchbank
  9. Jarrod Pickett
  10. Rhys Palmer
  11. Matthew Lobbe
  12. Darcy Lang
  13. Aaron Mullett
 
Carlton's trade and draft record since 2015. Let's call it, the SOS years.

Trades Out
Lachie Henderson (decent player)
Tom Bell (mediocre)
Troy Menzel (decent at Carlton)
Chris Yarran (off the rails)
Zach Tuohy (very good)
Bryce Gibbs (elite)

DFA - Daniel Gorringe (spud)
DFA - Matthew Wright (leading goal kicker)
Trade - Jed Lamb (mediocre)
Trade - Andrew Phillips (mediocre)
Trade - Lachie Plowman (okay)
Trade - Liam Sumner (spud)
Trade - Sam Kerridge (spud)
Draft - Jacob Weitering (hard to stuff up pick 1)
Draft - Harry McKay (looking good)
Draft - Charlie Curnow (elite)
Draft - David Cunningham (meh)
Draft - Jack Silvagni (spud, nepotism)
Trade - Billie Smedts (spud)
Trade - Caleb Marchbank (decent)
Trade - Jarrod Pickett (meh)
Trade - Rhys Palmer (awful)
Draft - Sam Petrevski-Seton (meh)
Draft - Zac Fisher (decent)
Draft - Harrison Macreadie (meh)
Draft - Cameron Polson (spud)
Draft - Patt Kerr (who?)
Rookie Draft - Alex Silvagni (mediocre)
Trade - Matt Kennedy (okay?)
Trade - Darcy Lang (spud)
Trade - Matthew Lobbe (spud)
Trade - Aaron Mullett (mediocre)
Draft - Paddy Dow (hard to stuff up pick 3)
Draft - Lachie O'Brien (decent)
Draft - Tom De Koning (who?)
Draft - Angus Schumacher (who?)
Draft - Jarrod Garlett (meh)
PSD - Cam O'Shea (worst player in the AFL)
Rookie Draft - Matt Shaw (spud)

I mean that's quite a list. Gorringe. Sumner. Lamb. Phillips. Kerridge. Smedts. Palmer. Silvagni. Lang. Lobbe. Mullett. O'Shea. Shaw.

It's genuinely hard to bring in that many players with AFL experience who are spuds. It's quite an achievement.

Combine that with this sort of trading:

Tuohy and Pick 22 for Pick 16, Pick 63 and Smedts
Pick 35 for Pick 48, Pick 66 and Pick 70

And I mean it's hard not to see why SOS is the master and why Carlton's list is amazing and elite and heading in a great direction.
Plenty of potatoes there.
 

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