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THE AFL says the 16-game suspension rule which ended Ali Fahour’s suburban footy career is not required at the elite level.
Fahour was slapped with a lifetime ban by the Northern Football League tribunal last week because his 14-week penalty lifted his tribunal record above the threshold enforced by AFL Victoria.

An AFL spokesperson said there were two reasons the 16-match deregistration policy did not apply at the elite level.

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“One, there is a much greater level of scrutiny on AFL matches with camera coverage, the ability to lay reports and much stricter rules where players can be suspended for incidents that will often not be picked up at lower levels, where this policy was designed for serial aggressive offenders, not low-level repeat offenders.

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“Two, we do not believe there has been a repeat offender issue at AFL level over the last 20 years where a player has been getting repeated, long suspensions for repeated behind-play offences.

“We have had players with highly-publicised one-off offences with significant suspensions, but not a player who has then gone and done a similar thing on multiple separate occasions.”

Four-time Hawthorn premiership star Jordan Lewis, now at Melbourne, boasts the AFL’s worst tribunal record — missing 12 games through suspension since he was first reported for striking Brent Harvey in a final in 2007.

Jordan Lewis copped a three-week ban for striking Patrick Cripps in Round 2. Picture: Wayne Ludbey

Jordan Lewis copped a three-week ban for striking Patrick Cripps in Round 2. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Steve Johnson was rubbed out for a week for a high bump on Josh Kennedy in last year’s qualifying final. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Steve Johnson was rubbed out for a week for a high bump on Josh Kennedy in last year’s qualifying final. Picture: Phil Hillyard
North Melbourne’s Jack Ziebell and Greater Western Sydney veteran Steve Johnson have both been rubbed out for 11 matches.

Johnson has been cited a league-high 20 times and found guilty 17 times for incidents dating to Round 13, 2010.

Fremantle teammates Hayden Ballantyne and Zac Dawson are next on the AFL suspension ladder, missing 10 games each.

Under the terms of the AFL Victoria national deregistration policy, suspension records incurred by AFL players are halved when they join country or suburban competitions.

The rule means Lewis’s 12-game AFL tally would be reduced to six matches if he signed up in a lower grade.





Former Hawk and Gold Coast Suns enforcer Campbell Brown was suspended for 29 matches during his AFL career — the most since the VFL became the AFL in 1990.

Sydney premiership skipper Barry Hall — inducted into the AFL Hall of Fame last month — was cited 17 times, found guilty 11 times and rubbed out for 26 matches while playing for the Swans, Western Bulldogs and St Kilda.

His suspension tally was cut to 13 when he returned to play local football. Suspensions of three or more weeks for Hall, who at 40 is still playing for Labrador in Queensland, will result in a lifetime ban.

St Kilda’s Steven Baker was cited 15 times at AFL level, found guilty 15 times and missed 28 games through suspension.

St Kilda’s Steven Baker was a regular at AFL House.

St Kilda’s Steven Baker was a regular at AFL House.
An AFL Victoria spokesperson said: “The national deregistration policy ... has been developed to provide a risk management framework for community football administrators to recognise a duty of care with respect to players and officials who could pose an unacceptable risk to others.

“If a player/official accumulates 16 weeks (or more) total suspension, the national deregistration policy will be invoked which bans the player/official from participating in Australian football in any league/competition.

“According to the policy, any suspension period served by a player during his AFL career shall carry over to community football competitions. However, any such suspension period shall be halved for the purposes of the deregistration policy.

“Deregistration does not commence until after the suspension has been served.

“A player/official who has been deregistered in accordance with section 3.2 of the policy may not appeal their deregistration until at least 12 months after deregistration.”

WORST OFFENDERS (CURRENT PLAYERS)

PLAYERCITATIONSGUILTYSUSPENSIONSWEEKS
1Jordan Lewis1514612
2Steve Johnson2017911
3Jack Ziebell99411
4Hayden Ballantyne1615710
4Zac Dawson99610
6Luke Hodge171669
6Jarrad Waite101069
6Steven May6539
6Tom Jonas5529
10Ty Vickery101038
11Lance Franklin131367
11Heath Hocking4447
13Paddy Ryder10946
13Nat Fyfe8736
13Shaun Burgoyne6436
13Tomas Bugg3516
17Neville Jetta5545
17Lindsay Thomas121135
17Mitch Robinson101035
17Hamish Hartlett101035
17James Kelly7735
17Jeremy Cameron9825
17Alex Rance7725
17Joel Selwood7725
17Taylor Walker6625
17Reece Conca3325
17Alex Silvagni2225
17Steele Sidebottom2225
WORST OFFENDERS SINCE 1990

PLAYERCITATIONSGUILTYSUSPENDEDWEEKSLONGEST
1Campbell Brown141310296
2Steven Baker151512287
3Barry Hall17118267
4Dermott Brereton755257
5Greg Williams1065239
6Chris Lewis1397217
7Dustin Fletcher181612203
8Jeff Farmer15118196
9Cam Mooney161412183
10Barry Young1197175
10Dean Solomon14136178
10Justin Charles4321716*
*Doping violation

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“We have had players with highly-publicised one-off offences with significant suspensions, but not a player who has then gone and done a similar thing on multiple separate occasions.”



Interesting.

The AFL spokesperson obviously forgot to say: "Three, we reserve the right not to deregister players so that we can protect our pet players, our commercial interests and our image, and sometimes to bow to backroom lobbying from the old boys network."
 

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The tribunal has failed if:
- they don't consider all his priors as a deliberate pattern of behaviour
- he is suspended for anything less than 4 years games
- they do not order and implement his immediate flogging, emasculation, and turn that smug grin into an upside down Joker face (using the same method)

Over to you Wakelin, Jurica and Loveridge.
 
That awful cash converters ad is punishment enough. The real commercial should be him fronting up to a magistrate:

"Now Toby what are your thoughts? Yeah good to get away with a good behaviour bond"
So he kicks people in the face, makes contact with umpires and forgets his girlfriends birthday. What a flog!
 
Things Toby hasn’t been suspended for:
- Eye gouging someone
- Headbutting someone
- Spitting at a player
- Kicking someone in the face

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we add bumping an umpire today

#PoorToby

Add fined, but not convicted, for an assault as well.

His old man sets a fine example, head butting female police officers. At least he got convicted.

What a fine, upstanding family.

Onfield, he doesn't have the mental capacity to do anything other than to resort to effectively physical violence to players, and physically trying to intimidate an umpire. Over and over and over again. The only thing he will understand is the same in return - a fine or suspension will not resonate in the few brain cells he allegedly possesses.
 
Pardon the intrusion, but thought this ******* shithouse from Barrett in sliding doors:

Was that not around the time Stringer was allegedly cheating on his pregnant partner with an underage girl? What a joke to hang sh*t on you for 'turfing' him because of a largely self-inflicted personal and professional low. If anyone has performed a low act that could be reasonably made them seen as a campaigner by peers in their workplace, of course their workplace is entitled to sack them...
He was a dickhead and a workplace bully.

Essendon fans will never acknowledge that. You even upset one of them lurking here, he disliked your post lol.
 
Things Toby hasn’t been suspended for:
- Eye gouging someone
- Headbutting someone
- Spitting at a player
- Kicking someone in the face

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we add bumping an umpire today

#PoorToby

There will be outrage if he doesn't get multiple weeks. The only people advocating for him to be let off are idiot ex-players and even then some of them have changed their tune as they've observed the way the tide of public opinion was moving.

What will absolutely happen imo is that they'll give him the minimum without causing that widespread outrage - so 2 weeks. Still massively insufficient but they'll reassure themselves that it does mean he misses the rest of their finals series (unless they somehow make a GF, which is unlikely) so it's punitive enough.

Hoping to be surprised and see 4 weeks plus, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 

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He was a dickhead and a workplace bully.

Essendon fans will never acknowledge that. You even upset one of them lurking here, he disliked your post lol.
They aren't the brightest fans, when looking at their midfield depth they include him with Merrett and Parish as one of the core pieces in the midfield rotation when the reality is he is a 70/30 forward/pinch hit mid.
 
Things Toby hasn’t been suspended for:
- Eye gouging someone
- Headbutting someone
- Spitting at a player
- Kicking someone in the face

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we add bumping an umpire today

#PoorToby
You mean to tell me this Toby Tax line which comes out prior to every time he (regularly) fronts the Tribunal is a little overblown?
 
Add fined, but not convicted, for an assault as well.

His old man sets a fine example, head butting female police officers. At least he got convicted.

What a fine, upstanding family.

Onfield, he doesn't have the mental capacity to do anything other than to resort to effectively physical violence to players, and physically trying to intimidate an umpire. Over and over and over again. The only thing he will understand is the same in return - a fine or suspension will not resonate in the few brain cells he allegedly possesses.
Funnily enough, the fact that his dad is a massive idiot gives me a bit(just a teensy bit) of sympathy. No good role model when he was growing up. I know its no excuse but as a primary school teacher for 20 years I know how much of a difference this can make in peoples lives.

As a result, I think 4 years with 1 suspended, so 3 years jail time is about right. Could be out on parole in 2 with good behaviour.
 
Greene has got to go. Big time. At least a month. As footscray1973 said, it is the only way to finally send a clear message to Toby that his antics are not on, and will not be tolerated. He does not understand subtleties, and another slap on the wrist with a wet celery would merely further vindicate in his mind that he is not really crossing the line.
 
Doesn't sound good for Tobes :D "Insolent and contemptuous"
Said the prosecution. Not the jury. Defence lawyer sounds a bit lame.

$20,000 fine? I don't want him suspended, not this week. Can they suspend the suspension?
 
Wow, made the mistake of looking at the MB MRP threads. Outback Footy, 2 Geelong posters and Chief struggling to convince pinheads who don't think the grub should be suspended. That Luke Parker poster is deluded on Greene, but good to see our free kick differential is still eating him up 5 years after 2016 GF. Hope he's one of the Swans supporters I know, and it preys on his mind for the rest of his life!
 
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