MFC Fans Only Non-Dees Footy Chat 2022

[mrmonkey]

Grossly overated by the media pre season. Believed in their own BS. Essendon could of lost in R23 and still would of made the 8 with a 10-12 w/ l record.
Hopeless. No match winners. Average players all over ground.
Bulldogs playing them for %. Might sneek back into the 8 tonight.

Knew they were doomed when I heard David King on sen1116 early in the year pumping them up off one training session he watched. I didn't watch too much of today's game but the look like a big pile of steaming excrement atm.

 

[schmuttt]

ignore to follow, what a time to be alive

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I’m going to love this week.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I’m going to love this week.

He might not post all week.

 

[Bluelegs]

I’m going to love this week.

I just took him off ignore so I could see this

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Max King

12

Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

and Trac copping it for shit routines and rightly so

 

[mrmonkey]

Max King and Trac copping it for shit routines and rightly so

It's a massive problem for king as he generates so many shots for goal, must be extremely frustrating for saints fans that they have this freak talent who is hard to stop from taking a mark but he is so unreliable. Was it the other week he kicked 1.7 or something ( luckily Higgins snagged everything). Luckily Trac doesn't take a lot of shots but Lloyd is right he's never been a great set shot, it's annoying felt like he got a lot better last year but he has reverted back to shit. He's not alone most players are way off radar bar bbb.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

It's a massive problem for king as he generates so many shots for goal, must be extremely frustrating for saints fans that they have this freak talent who is hard to stop from taking a mark but he is so unreliable. Was it the other week he kicked 1.7 or something ( luckily Higgins snagged everything). Luckily Trac doesn't take a lot of shots but Lloyd is right he's never been a great set shot, it's annoying felt like he got a lot better last year but he has reverted back to shit. He's not alone most players are way off radar bar bbb.

Gotta tip my cap to Slick, he was a shambles 18 months ago.

 

[jhong]

The bombers when up and running physically intimidated teams . This current version scare no one .

 

[MarcMaverick]

Max King and Trac copping it for shit routines and rightly so

Once again the dumb sport science "boffins" and their stupid worrying about conditioning loads. If you or I were FF or even HF we'd be practising kicking to goals for hours at a time and we'd incorporate angles and factor fatigue into calculations, even doing it on our "days off" just so as we're dedicated to our craft. Not "sorry boys, you're only allowed x amount of kicks otherwise your hammy will tear"

I saw this comment on the video that went along the lines of there not being any ol' fashioned pure footballers that ply their craft as forwards but rather we are trying to convert athletes into FF's.

 

[MarcMaverick]

The bombers when up and running physically intimidated teams . This current version scare no one .

They train at a Greenhouse that's why.

 

[Topkent]

Being saying the swans are pretenders all year. Conceded another 30 shots at goal. They'll destroy some teams but I'd bet my BF existence they can't win a flag this year.

 

[schmuttt]

Being saying the swans are pretenders all year. Conceded another 30 shots at goal. They'll destroy some teams but I'd bet my BF existence they can't win a flag this year.

Excellent post I agree

They’re 2015-2016-2017 adelaide.

 

[Topkent]

Max King and Trac copping it for shit routines and rightly so

It's a ****ing shamble. 2 of the best in the game and it's like they've never even practiced.

Trac an Oliver are embarrassing in front of goal. 25m out slight angle don't even bother they'll miss.

Just like all shit set shots Trac from 50 can kick em because he runs around and gets momentum.

 

[Proper Gander]

Random comment, but does anyone else who watched seven's footy in the 90's think that Jobe sounds a lot like Terry Wheeler

You’re right. He does

 

[Topkent]

Trac spins the ball around because he's an absolute scrambled egg of a head human. You can tell there's 6 billion thoughts going through his head and none of them are I'm the man I'll kick this

 

[Proper Gander]

I just took him off ignore so I could see this

Me too

 

[Proper Gander]

Being saying the swans are pretenders all year. Conceded another 30 shots at goal. They'll destroy some teams but I'd bet my BF existence they can't win a flag this year.

I like GoDees2021 better than you anyway

 

[Topkent]

I like GoDees2021 better than you anyway

We've always whispered behind your back you smell like cats.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Trac spins the ball around because he's an absolute scrambled egg of a head human. You can tell there's 6 billion thoughts going through his head and none of them are I'm the man I'll kick this

Could literally apply this to Trac

Trac to himself on his approach to goal "Just stay calm. You've kicked plenty of these when you were 10 years old from this distance"

Tracs brain:

 

[Topkent]

Oliver too. He has the stupid look on his face after he shanks it that oh well I knew that'd happen.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Could literally apply this to Trac

Trac to himself on his approach to goal "Just stay calm. You've kicked plenty of these when you were 10 years old from this distance"

Tracs brain:

Its an addled mess that's for sure.

Further to what I was saying about woeful goal kicking is that teams are no longer playing or are seldom playing in exposed grounds for matches like Casey Fields, Waverley Park, Moorabbin etc. The only ground that is in semi-use is KP and when they redevelop that stand it will lessen the impact of the wind. I think that taking nature out of it is a mistake and it proved itself when the Saints kicked 4:18 or something like that and we kicked 9:22.


This is how you improve. You use those days off to train factoring fatigue, angles, wind, rain etc... You try to make its match-sim as possible so that you could do it blindfolded on match day. Once again stupid sport science boffins ruining it.

 

[mrmonkey]

Gotta tip my cap to Slick, he was a shambles 18 months ago.

Yeah used to cringe with Fritsch which way is it going to go? He's probably the only other I feel confident in now. I feel the wheel is turning for weid as well just don't have a big sample size. I'm putting his first game back against the bombers as pressure to perform when he missed those early misses.

Trac spins the ball around because he's an absolute scrambled egg of a head human. You can tell there's 6 billion thoughts going through his head and none of them are I'm the man I'll kick this

Could tell trac was going to miss as soon as he looked at the scoreboard.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Jordan at 59 still clutch, EAD kids, no shoes for you.

Ben Simmons would have broken down in tears under this pressure

 

[JP2]

I've often wondered why players who are no good at set shots bother with the set shot routine at all. Walking for 15 metres in a straight line with 30 seconds to think about how you're supposed to kick the ball is completely alien to how these guys are conditioned to kick it normally, and I'm not sure why it's become standard practice for everyone to try to do it that way. In my experience playing footy (mostly as a defender, admittedly) set shots were always more difficult than shots from general play, and I don't think it was because I was a nervous headcase, but rather because walking slowly before kicking the ball went against all the muscle memory about how to kick a ball that my body had built up in all my years playing the sport. Trying to do a physical action consciously (which is what taking a set shot forces you to do) is a lot more difficult than doing it automatically, and I think that's why so many players have problems with it. I think it's also why a lot of players prefer taking set shots around the body, because it forces them to kick it according to instinct.

Forwards should obviously develop a routine that they know is going to work for them, but I don't see why that routine should be the same for everyone. Petracca could hit the top of a tin of beans from 50 metres away in general play when he's in a rush and has to kick off a couple of steps, so why not do something similar when he has a set shot for goal? Why not take the mark, get back as quickly as possible and then actually run towards the goals when he kicks it, getting the whole process over and done with in 5 seconds? Surely the result couldn't be any worse than what he's doing now?

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I've often wondered why players who are no good at set shots bother with the set shot routine at all. Walking for 15 metres in a straight line with 30 seconds to think about how you're supposed to kick the ball is completely alien to how these guys are conditioned to kick it normally, and I'm not sure why it's become standard practice for everyone to try to do it that way. In my experience playing footy (mostly as a defender, admittedly) set shots were always more difficult than shots from general play, and I don't think it was because I was a nervous headcase, but rather because walking slowly before kicking the ball went against all the muscle memory about how to kick a ball that my body had built up in all my years playing the sport. Trying to do a physical action consciously (which is what taking a set shot forces you to do) is a lot more difficult than doing it automatically, and I think that's why so many players have problems with it. I think it's also why a lot of players prefer taking set shots around the body, because it forces them to kick it according to instinct.

Forwards should obviously develop a routine that they know is going to work for them, but I don't see why that routine should be the same for everyone. Petracca could hit the top of a tin of beans from 50 metres away in general play when he's in a rush and has to kick off a couple of steps, so why not do something similar when he has a set shot for goal? Why not take the mark, get back as quickly as possible and then actually run towards the goals when he kicks it, getting the whole process over and done with in 5 seconds? Surely the result couldn't be any worse than what he's doing now?

Completely agree, hes in his own head with too much time to think about things , instinctively hes fine from 50 generally. I aslo reckon the harder the set shot the better he is, probably coz he feels less pressure to kick it and looking bad if he misses.