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Yeah I ain't getting my hopes up too high lol. Reid has been immense this year-him being underone or out completely will help us heaps
Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II
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2019 GWS were gassed by the GF, and had some very soft players who were down hill skiers. They fell over the Pies who missed some really easy chances (sound familiar) and only got to the end of the PF due to the pre-finals bye. If there was no bye, they don't make it past the SF in 2019. There was no way GWS were keeping with a fresh Richmond (who had their bunnies Brisbane in the QF and had a challenge in the PF against us but the game was gone by the 4th QTR). Hence why Richmond put the foot down in the 2nd QTR and GWS were done.
2017 Croms started very well, but watch the cut of the horrendous umpiring that went against them that killed their momentum in the 2nd QTR. Add in playing a GF in front of a majority Richmond crowd, at the Tigers home ground where they had been very good all season meanwhile Croms had 3 games there (wins against Hawks/Blues, draw with Pies).
That said, something that gives me confidence because this year we have the best record in the league at the MCG, have a game style that absolutely suits it, and have a young interstate club as our opposition. Much better than a GF against an MCG tenant in Collingwood.
Sydney have a very experienced coach, with some elite players both young and old. No way do we win this GF by the margins (48 and 89 respectively) because even if Sydney get gassed they have way more talent then that GWS side and that Croms side had.
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There was pressure, we put plenty of pressure on Brisbane. The differen mice in todays game was that there was no pressure from either team
Brisbane finished top 4 (rankings are determined by finals).
Geelong has a 4-1 record against Sydney, Collingwood and Brisbane.
Sydney have a 4-1 record against Geelong, Collingwood and Brisbane.
Geelong's % across games against those opponents was superior to Sydney so they have the better record - debunked.
Pressure in the first when the Bears had something like 10 or 11 i50s to 1 or 2.
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I tend to agree with this but I think you're underselling crom 17.they had a tremendous home and away + finals leading up to the gf
If anything these PF finals are more like 2011...
Invisible first half on the weekend. 14 touches in the second.
Against Pies he had 20 odd touches but a few clangers hurt his game.
It's actually disposal effectiveness rather than how often he's getting involved, that has been off.
We have had a couple of previously solid contributors down on form last couple of games.
I am backing Smith to turn it on in the GF.
Once it was Croms V Tigers at the MCG with a majority Tiggies crowd it was always going to be a Tigers flag. Had it been like 2020 or 2021 and played in another state on neutral ground Croms possibly win.
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Aren’t we lucky that we didn’t lose week 1.
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It actually reminds me more of the last round last year where Melbourne came from behind and beat us. Yes the swans won, but gee, they’d not be too confident about that. It was more like Collingwood lost that game than Sydney won.
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So we really don't want Reid to play. They went backward when he went off. They can't win with just Buddy.
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He’s so different to CS. Full authoritarian.
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We actually do. Hipwood, Daniher, McCarthy and Cameron are a seriously mobile and attacking forward line.
Statistically, they rate much higher than Buddy, Reid, Papley and Heeney.
But the structure is similar.
What we don’t want is a mid-sized/fast burst small forward brigade. They cut systems up and are as good if not better at handling the chaos ball than our mid-sized elite defence.
If we get a meat and potatoes setup of opposition forwards, then it plays into our hands.
The value of our forward line is that it’s the standard style/plus Cameron just runs off as a midfielder/winger and we have the small forward brigade too. So it’s death by 1000 cuts or hit with a sledgehammer or a combination of both.
Reid off - worked beautifully for Collingwood as he was providing a great get out of jail contested marking target for Sydney when Collingwood where trying to get a run on. He did the same against Melbourne - much like hipwood does for the lions.
With us, he won’t mark so many - it’ll be spoiled. That high ball kick from their backline suits us.
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Don't mind to be honest, we were lucky to get up against the Pies and the swans have beaten us the last two times..
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I don't think anyone is like CS. Scotty is a bit of a weird unit to me.
Which is why when we have lost Rd 1 of finals we don't make it past PF often. Theres no doubt the SFs took it out of Brisbane and the Pies, and the Pies are lucky that the Swans seems to put the cue in the rack at 3/4 time.
Not even sure he did run over the mark. If an umprie feels a player has done that why not drag him back an extra metre...but 50..when its so borderline ..seems extreme
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Exactly. No warning, just an instant 50m. Yet same thing down the Swans end, and he gets called to move. Absolute rip-off. Hodgey said the same thing.
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You have to be behind the 9m mark. Every players knows it. Harsh 50, but technically there for sure.
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