Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2023, part I

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Partridge said:
In a word - varied. Not what you think. Can't remember who said it but the description was not one country, but a collection of city/states. Which is definitely closer to what I experienced.
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very correct
Though born in OH, I grew up in WA state. I spent one year in Atlanta as an adult. Very different vibes from the chill PacNW. I won't even go into the politics of some of the people I met there, but there is a lot of subconscious biases at work in the upper middle class and up suburbs. Having already lived abroad for years I was also astounded by the lack of knowledge and interest in world affairs. Accents aside, regions and states can be very starkly different.
Recently my Taiwanese wife was asking about laws and why do they seem to be different in different states. That's just the way it is. I once was going a long road trip, leaving on Sunday morning. I stopped outside of the city at one of those gas/convenience stores to get a road beer for later. Couldn't buy one. GA is a dry state on Sundays. HtF can a place that loves football so much not allow beer to be bought on the day of the game? lol
 

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very correct
Though born in OH, I grew up in WA state. I spent one year in Atlanta as an adult. Very different vibes from the chill PacNW. I won't even go into the politics of some of the people I met there, but there is a lot of subconscious biases at work in the upper middle class and up suburbs. Having already lived abroad for years I was also astounded by the lack of knowledge and interest in world affairs. Accents aside, regions and states can be very starkly different.
Recently my Taiwanese wife was asking about laws and why do they seem to be different in different states. That's just the way it is. I once was going a long road trip, leaving on Sunday morning. I stopped outside of the city at one of those gas/convenience stores to get a road beer for later. Couldn't buy one. GA is a dry state on Sundays. HtF can a place that loves football so much not allow beer to be bought on the day of the game? lol
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Yeah I didn't make it down to Georgia. North Carolina was as far south as I got. But just the difference between New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Virginia was pretty stark. Virginia was my favourite by a mile too by the way, Americans are definitely friendly everywhere but the level of hospitality in VA was unbelievable. Beautiful small towns too.
 
Spearman said:
I once was going a long road trip, leaving on Sunday morning. I stopped outside of the city at one of those gas/convenience stores to get a road beer for later. Couldn't buy one. GA is a dry state on Sundays. HtF can a place that loves football so much not allow beer to be bought on the day of the game? lol
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Ah, the blue laws. The Temperance movement set deep roots in the then largely Baptist "teetotaling" South*, with repercussions that echo today.

I got one for you: For many years, you couldn't buy beverage alcohol before "noon" on Sunday, NC state-wide, even if the county were wet. Fair enough, plan your purchases, whatever.

But what really blew my mind is that during the months of daylight savings time, you couldn't buy alcohol before 1pm on Sunday. WTF, did the churches schedule around the sun's position or what?!

We finally got rid of that particularly irritating law, although it just means that "no beer before noon Sunday" is universal now.

* - never mind those moonshiners and their stock car racing...
 
WTF.....




internet seriously GIF
 
Dickhead Craig Hutchison just got pulled apart on Footy Crappified by Lloyd and Caro because he was saying North should have manufactured a loss to get Reid and Lloyd was saying whoever you take walks like JHF does because you have curated a losing culture.

Glad Craig isn't involved in our club.
 
And_ROOS said:
Dickhead Craig Hutchison just got pulled apart on Footy Crappified by Lloyd and Caro because he was saying North should have manufactured a loss to get Reid and Lloyd was saying whoever you take walks like JHF does because you have curated a losing culture.

Glad Craig isn't involved in our club.
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That man looks like a walking heart attack. (Dont watch FC but saw him on the promo). Am actually scared for the bloke
 
Partridge said:
I actually quite liked living there. Twice.

Would rather watch reruns of the Project than visit LA again but otherwise it was great.
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I work in a high school.

Tbh i wouldn't want to live and work in a place where you needed to do "active shooter drills" on a regular basis.
 
And_ROOS said:
Dickhead Craig Hutchison just got pulled apart on Footy Crappified by Lloyd and Caro because he was saying North should have manufactured a loss to get Reid and Lloyd was saying whoever you take walks like JHF does because you have curated a losing culture.

Glad Craig isn't involved in our club.
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A few of us could learn from Lloydy
 
Shell said:
I love America- and think Americans are one of the friendliest ppl on the planet.

But I would not want live there. Ever.
(No offence Daz)
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None taken - totally agree with you

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This just has to be a pisstake, surely?

“It’s just wrong”: Why Collingwood should be handed a stronger finals advantage

“There has to be some advantage.”
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David King believes Collingwood deserve more of an advantage in finals after finishing atop the 2023 ladder at the end of the home and away season.

The Magpies earned the right to host a home Qualifying Final as a result of finishing first, but will play the fourth-placed Demons in that clash.

As Melbourne’s home ground is also the MCG, Collingwood doesn’t have any advantage in finishing three spots higher than their opposition and King believes that’s unfair.

Given the game would be played at the MCG no matter who the higher ranked side was, King believes the Magpies should at least get an advantage with crowd numbers.

“There has to be some advantage,” King said on SEN Breakfast.

“If you’re going to finish top of the table and play a team that effectively has the same home ground (it is unfair).

“I think there has to be some advantage for Collingwood finishing top of the table. With Melbourne finishing fourth there’s no spoil.

“I think when you finish top, when you play at the same venue, it’s a neutral advantage in a final series.

“The team that finished higher up the ladder should have 75 per cent of the crowd.

“The crowd should be the advantage, make it 75-25 and no blueing Melbourne, because you had your chance for 24 rounds to find yourself in the top position on the table.”

While Collingwood would receive 75 per cent of fans in the Qualifying Final in King’s hypothetical, he says the same would be applied for Melbourne if they hosted a Semi-Final in week two or won straight through to a Preliminary Final against a fellow MCG tenant.

“So, if Melbourne plays Carlton (in the Semi-Final), then they would have 75 per cent of the crowd on Carlton,” King explained.

“I think you have to have some advantage for the same venue, cancelling out any advantage which has built over a marathon season.

“It's just wrong that Collingwood and Melbourne is a 50-50 crowd at the MCG week one.

“There's got to be more in it than a McClelland Trophy … that means nothing.

“If Collingwood had 75 per cent of the crowd next Thursday, it would be a huge advantage.”
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It's not necessarily a bad overall argument, just that the context or stimulus for it is off. Why bring it up in reference to Collingwood, the most avidly supported side in the AFL who will definitely have a higher proportion of the crowd than Melbourne regardless.

It would be more endearing to bring it up in relation to teams like St. Kilda or, of course, Geelong. Ensuring that more of the crowd was for the 'home' team would diminish the blow of a Geelong or St. Kilda having to play a side away from their true home venue at the 'G. Playing against a side like Richmond in a final, the issue wasn't so much we were at the 'G, but that despite finishing higher we had a smaller and quieter crowd, making it seem like a Tigers home game. That's not something Collingwood would have to worry about anyway, so I'm not sure why it's being brought up about them. They'll have the louder supporters anyway. It will feel like a Collingwood home game, no problem.

Let's say in the future Saints finish first and Collingwood 4th. That's the time to make the argument that there should be limits for the team that finished lower. In the current case, however, it seems it's really more about placating Collingwood fans unhappy they can't consume even more of the tickets than they already are.
 
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