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Been tipping the ones i want to win in my family and friends comp which has worked fairly well for me so far
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Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2024, Part I
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- Mar 11, 2019
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Like wise but i need them to rise to say 9th-12th so they have worse draft picks
- Aug 18, 2018
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Yeah I didn't have them as a bottom 4 team this year but that injury run as absolutely cooked them
- Dec 19, 2015
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Probably a cliche to say you're sick of umpire bashing but the media drive me mad. They scrutinise every call, have forced the review system and now constantly complain about the use of review. You can't have it both ways.
The ball hitting the umpire last night was questioned. On fox footy they highlighted it and questioned what should've happened? Montagna says "well we know it cost Richmond deeply". Nankervis shit kick cost them. It annoys me the umpires have to come out and justify the call today. We're never going to get it all right, it hit the umpires leg, he didn't know Melbourne would kick a goal after Richmond had won possession. Now all the nuffies start bleating about umpires and corruption.
If we think umpire scrutiny improves the game, fine, but then don't complain about umpires being afraid to make calls and using the review system. It is a frustrating contradiction.
The ball hitting the umpire last night was questioned. On fox footy they highlighted it and questioned what should've happened? Montagna says "well we know it cost Richmond deeply". Nankervis shit kick cost them. It annoys me the umpires have to come out and justify the call today. We're never going to get it all right, it hit the umpires leg, he didn't know Melbourne would kick a goal after Richmond had won possession. Now all the nuffies start bleating about umpires and corruption.
If we think umpire scrutiny improves the game, fine, but then don't complain about umpires being afraid to make calls and using the review system. It is a frustrating contradiction.
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When i bash umps i also feel sorry for them and really my problem isn't with the umps it is the rules and AFL weekly directive that changes well weekly.
We have the hardest game in the world to umpire and we should be looking into ways to make it easier.
Less grey and more black and white is needed.
Although i do 100% agree that we a re getting way to many reviews now.
- Aug 18, 2018
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Honest to God they have enough to deal with without the media. The afl needs to find a way to sanction journos for complaining about them. Bar them from pressers etc.
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It's just so easy and tired, and it rallies all of the aggressive and abusive types that are then legitimately angry towards umpires.
I get frustrated by calls too, and sometimes the score review system takes a while (doesn't bother me that much) but to hear legitimate whingeing by commentators about score reviews "this is taking too long, just make a call, this is ridiculous etc" only to then scrutinise calls continuously is insane.
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The commentators are a huge problem agreed most of them don't actually commentate and spew shit and those who do commentate are mostly bad at it/biased or don't understand the rules properly which is strange since a lot of them played AFL.
We need a full clean out of the boys club commentators that we currently have and get some like Bennet in.
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Professional cricket has also fallen victim to this trend. Umpires, gripped by the fear of being proven wrong by reviews, often refrain from making a call. This is particularly evident in run-outs, where umpires opt for a review even when it's glaringly obvious that the batter fell short.
Most of the reviews in AFL footy would be gone if they just made it so that if the ball hits the post but still goes through for a goal, then that's a goal. Hits the post and goes through for a point—it's a point. Hits the post and goes back into play, play on, or it's a point.
I've thought for a while that broadcast rights should be contingent on minimal commentary relating to umpiring during the broadcast. The conversation can be had during the week on myriad shows and interviews.
I still don't understand what happened to dissent. Keep paying the 50's. The game turns into a circus when you allow it.
NBA & NFL are the perfect examples. One is constantly mired in controversy during the game and suffers for it. One moves past it with the players unable to question the decision. The conversations for officials in the NFL still take place, still get reviewed, and still get scrutinised. It takes place during the week in articles, podcasts, and interviews where it belongs.
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Seems to me a few of them have lost interest.
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I agree, and from what I've witnessed in the NBA, players sometimes getting ejected for very little is not over scrutinised by the commentators. They may say "wow, what happened there? Okay looks like he raised his arm in frustration, that's a big call" and then that's typically it. They don't say "That's ridiculous! That's going to cost them the game!" And then speak about it ad nauseum on every show for the rest of the week.
People keep calling for a send off rule, can you imagine BT if someone got sent off? We wouldn't hear another minute of the game being called. It would just be an hour of BT going "BUT RICHO! HoWwW could he be sent off?! I don't see hoWwW he could? HowwwW can he make that call!?
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So bandwagoners?
oh wait you probably mean the players well the term fits both sorta
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I agree with this.
If you want to see how bad it can get, go follow European soccer, particularly Premier League.
The scrutiny of refs, VAR and the managers/players/media behaviour towards referee decisions is genuinely ruining the sport as a spectacle.
Let’s not go down that path.
Get rid of all reviews, accept that mistakes are part of the game and let go of the ridiculous notion that we should be able to expect all decisions to be correct. Simplify the rules for the umpires (particularly htb and high tackles). suspensions for any coach or club offical who questions an umpire decision in the media and revoke journalist credentials for any media member who ask questions about umpires/decisions. Enforce the dissent rule stringently on the ground.
Basically make questioning an umpire or criticising a decision an absolute no-go zone. A draconian approach is the only way to get rid of the problem.
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True, I meant the players.
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Yeah broadcast rights need a fine system for complaining about umpires during broadcast too that's a good call
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What a kick from Stringer
Cracking goal from the String
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Geez pies got real lucky with the flag last year
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Ess on fire early
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4 straight in just over 5 mins holy shit
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Martin gifts the Pies a goal
Big missed opportunity from McCreery. Pooed his pants big time.
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Durham looks a real good player
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