That's only assuming that we'd pick Campbell Chesser and Coby Burgiel... so we actually traded picks for Sinn (plus Ladhams).
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Player Watch Pick #12 (2021) - Josh Sinn
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Sinn hasn't proven he's worthy of a spot on the list yet let alone whatever we gave up to get him. He needs to get fit and show something next year.
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Not every first round draft pick is going to be a win, but it’s far too early to be writing him off.
Ladhams would probably be delisted by now if he stayed here so it’s not that big of a deal he was used to move us ahead in the draft order.
Everyone thought Williams was a major bust too until this year where he showed why we drafted him early.
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Ladhams would probably be delisted by now if he stayed here so it’s not that big of a deal he was used to move us ahead in the draft order.
Everyone thought Williams was a major bust too until this year where he showed why we drafted him early.
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Sinn hopefully will be the most improved player for 2024. I get the feeling that our fortunes and Sinn getting close to his potential are linked. If Sinn comes good, then I am going to be quietly confident in 2024.
If Sinn gets to his potential, in a couple of years, he will get midfield minutes with Butters, Rozee and Horne-Francis, he has that much potential.
I hope the coaching staff tell Sinn that they have all the confidence in the world that he will come on this year and he gets to play every game off the half back flank. There will be some run and carry from Sinn that will completely bonify this thread. I think he will take a bit of time like Amon.
I am a touch worried about injuries and also timidness which hopefully a full slate of games will erode.
I hope the coaching staff tell Sinn that they have all the confidence in the world that he will come on this year and he gets to play every game off the half back flank. There will be some run and carry from Sinn that will completely bonify this thread. I think he will take a bit of time like Amon.
I am a touch worried about injuries and also timidness which hopefully a full slate of games will erode.
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I'm not writing him off, but what he served up in that run of games this year was quite bad. Reminded me of Bonner, good size but no physicality. Let's hope he shows something in 2024.
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Has all the hallmarks of an anti-moneyball pick. 'Just looks like a footballer!', etc. I suspect we put 10,000 hours into him and he tops out as a run of the mill half back flanker or wingman.
We definitely paid anti-moneyball type of cash for him but sometimes you don't mind paying extra if you can reach for the top shelf.
Sinn would have to be third down at the club in line to Dixon and Jed for guys who get a fair whack of flack.
We will see whether he is more Tim Hudson or I guess before Moneyball but Jose Canseco.
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Was hoping he’d join Boak on his annual pilgrimage to the states for some training. Not that he’d probably need to, but just his mindset on getting the most from his body, given his history of injuries.
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I was the same, but then Burton regressed this year (probably playing both ends of the ground more so) so doubt the running form/functionality really benefited him and he was a prime candidate with having the broken leg years ago and all.
Did Rozee progress because of the reformation or natural progression?
Mindset I agree with, but Dyl Williams managed it without leaving Findon…
I am hoping worst case scenario a type of player development like Karl Amon.
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Yep, he's come along really well Hobbs. Big miss there.
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There's 2 factors to it all.
1. The price we paid.
We paid for a gun. We sold the farm. You don't expect a run of the mill, fringe player for what we paid.
2. His pure performance and development.
How many smaller players have reached the level expected of item 1 after showing absolutely zero in their first 2 seasons? Additionally, how many players have even become just a solid player after showing as little as he has so far?
I mean in reality, I'm willing to put a line through him ever reaching the value we paid for him. He just won't reach the heights the club expected. I think that's what many are thinking when they are putting a line through him.
However I do suspect he may yet still play some AFL if he can stay fit and will contribute a little, he's just not going to be anything more than a role player. So I'm not putting a line through him completely, and I'm sure many others are thinking this way, which means they still think he's got something to offer. The problem is the first point is what we all expected and knee our list needed when we spent big on him.
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Hinkley is a bum. Everything is his fault (and Koch's)
I haven't put a line through sinn yet... Hopefully a good preseason and he gets his body and mind going.
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If this page is accurate, here’s the pick 10 history. Looks like a 40% strike rate at a glance of a good player, a few guns in that list but I’d guess what 10%. I’m not sure pick 10 is a lock for a gun player.
afl.com.au has him as our leading breakout contender and says we're thrilled with how he's come back this preseason. He's really gotta start to show something or I feel we'll bury him in the SANFL in 2025 and give more opportunities to others.
God I hope this is true, I rate what Sinn can bring to the table as an attacking wingman/pacy mid.
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Yeah glad to hear talk of him on a wing, but contradicts what most are saying they are seeing in preseason. Don't see him breaking in as a HBF because we are already flush for them and everyone else in the mix (Houston, Farrell, Williams, Burton) is a good to amazing kick.
Agree. There is a major disconnect between this article and what is evident on the track. Either the journo has some inside info or he made this up from his desk. Still I want to believe Sinn is ready to explode so much, I’m willing to believe it.
My expectations of him are pretty low now, which means I can only be pleasantly surprised if he comes good, the way I was when Williams broke out this year after I had initially rated him and then written him off.
I’m interested in the comments from observers of training about his ball drop and kicking. It’s exactly how I see it. Pretty sure Macca19 made the same observation about him being a long but not necessarily good kick, soon after we drafted him.
I’m interested in the comments from observers of training about his ball drop and kicking. It’s exactly how I see it. Pretty sure Macca19 made the same observation about him being a long but not necessarily good kick, soon after we drafted him.
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I think on exposed form in the SANFL he is a Midfielder that for one reason or another has been played repeatedly out of position. This may be to look after body returning from injury, be the designated kicker, efforts or defensive work/understanding, who knows?
Let’s hope, our midfield quartet of Rozee, Butters, JHF and Drew is already a pretty formidable line up, if we can add a fifth and sixth string to this bow in Sinn, Jackson, Mead, SPP, Houston, Lorenz, Charleson, Bergman… phowa… also why ‘selling the farm’ for the Bigs we brought in this year was an ‘educated gamble’
Let’s hope, our midfield quartet of Rozee, Butters, JHF and Drew is already a pretty formidable line up, if we can add a fifth and sixth string to this bow in Sinn, Jackson, Mead, SPP, Houston, Lorenz, Charleson, Bergman… phowa… also why ‘selling the farm’ for the Bigs we brought in this year was an ‘educated gamble’
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