Review Round 12, 2024 vs Carlton

[Chewy316]

This example was the worst of it.

I can't fathom his positioning here.

Literally 3 meters off his direct opponent leaving the goal face wide open. What exactly is he trying to do here?

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I think the craziest thing about that screenshot is the scoreline and the time left in the game. Near 3 quarter time and only 1 point the difference, at home with the wind at our backs in the last. They really did capitulate when Carlton turned up the heat.

 

[jackag24]

Might be so but he's also top 3 in the AFL for effective kicks and what do we lack ATM? Yep, players that can kick. And what do we lack in our D50 ATM? Yep, players with pace that can run and kick. Jones - might be tough but cant kick and has zero pace. Burton - zero pace and kicked at 46% last night this list goes on. I know who id rather have.

He's top 3 for total effective kicks but he also takes considerably more kicks than most players. And the effective kicks stats is inflated for basically everyone who plays in the back half, due to safe kicks around the defensive zone

Luke Ryan has 45 more effective kicks than the next best.

Bonners stats still present as more or less the same (or poorer) compared to our other HBs.

I really think not having Bonner in the team is the least of our problems

 

[jackag24]

He's tough though

Last night i saw one example when he genuinely put his body on the line to smash someone (i think it was cripps) and it was an effective use of his body.

The problem is he never does shit like that, like ever. He lets smaller opponents bully him constantly

 

[TeeKray]

Did anyone else notice how every time a ball was hacked forward from a contest in the middle of the ground towards our goals it was always a Carlton defender running onto it first and then when the ball was hacked forward towards their goals it was always a Carlton forward running onto it first? Poor coaching, not wanting it enough or both.

 

[Coobk001]

I truly believe if Frankies poster was a goal we probably go on to win that game.

Dreaming.

Everytime we hit the front they answered. They got a huge run on in the last, momentum was up, but it was always going to be. We took our best shot at them in the first half and they were still ahead and feeling like they had a lot more to give. Eventually they got their run on and bang it was game over. The few consolation goals we might've gotten in the last were never going to have a bearing on that contest. It was absolutely cooked when Cripps was left in 10m of space, twice, in the last quarter. Our mids shat the bed, as to be fair, Butters was doing all night. The tag got under his skin and unsettled him totally.

 

[backtozero]

Did anyone else notice how every time a ball was hacked forward from a contest in the middle of the ground towards our goals it was always a Carlton defender running onto it first and then when the ball was hacked forward towards their goals it was always a Carlton forward running onto it first? Poor coaching, not wanting it enough or both.

Forwards are clueless.
Defenders are reactive and scared.

 

[elbarton]

This example was the worst of it.

I can't fathom his positioning here.

Literally 3 meters off his direct opponent leaving the goal face wide open. What exactly is he trying to do here?

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He’s still trading off stolen valour of looking like a hard unit from the 80s, thus making a few nostalgic middle aged men weak at the knees, while playing absolutely nothing like it. How many credits does he left in the bank?

 

[Lefti93]

Did anyone else notice how every time a ball was hacked forward from a contest in the middle of the ground towards our goals it was always a Carlton defender running onto it first and then when the ball was hacked forward towards their goals it was always a Carlton forward running onto it first? Poor coaching, not wanting it enough or both.

Yes I did, multiple times. How can you not play in front of your man as a forward.

 

[TeeKray]

Jackson Mead has been one of the few players to go forwards rather than backwards this season. I love his clean ball handling, his ability to shrug a tackle, his ability to always find a teammate with a short kick or handball. He reminds me a lot of Josh Carr

Josh Carr

Age

44

Ht

179cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

0.8

3star

. No nonsense player but very effective.

 

[Scodges]

"Yeah look we thought we were certainly in the contest, I mean if you look at the stats you'll see we actually matched them in most areas. But I've been around in footy for a long time and it's a funny game, sometimes things just don't work out and the little things like the ball bouncing the wrong way can change everything, and maybe today the ball just didn't quite bounce our way as much as we would've liked. But we're a really strong group, we've shown that I reckon, so we'll go away now and enjoy some time off, god knows we could use a bit of a freshen up, and then we'll come back ready to go for the second half of the season. We'll just keep working at it and trying to get better."

Oh good, I feel warm and fuzzy, see you at the footy x

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[Coobk001]

Did anyone else notice how every time a ball was hacked forward from a contest in the middle of the ground towards our goals it was always a Carlton defender running onto it first and then when the ball was hacked forward towards their goals it was always a Carlton forward running onto it first? Poor coaching, not wanting it enough or both.

I remember the start of the 4th quarter and that happened. We won the clearance but straight to Saad and it bounces back the other way for a goal.

The problem wasn't necessarily the forward though, the problem was the hack handball from Butters. He should've just held onto it and took the tackle to ground for a restart. We're so concerned with moving the ball on at all costs that it kills us when we throw out uncontrolled ball like that which is completely ignoring our system and theirs. We would've known they would run in off half back and we wouldn't be set up. Yet in the heat of the moment we just lose our shit.

Butters was one of the worst for it last night. He had a shocker.

Just went back and looked at that disasterous opening to the 4th and after the Butters panicked first goal. The 2nd goal in that last again comes from an outhustled, and panicked Butters kicking straight into a smother. Jones then fumbles. McEntee falls over and fumbles. Jones then goes to ground and fumbles. The resulting clearance results in a goal as Soldo is just pushed away easily DeKoning.

 

[Capital Power]

40 i50s is easily our lowest this year. When your only game plan depends on repeat entries, this kinda suggested something needed to be changed. The only answer seemed to be sending JHF forward, thus giving up control of the midfield. That worked out well. Wouldn't have even been necessary if our forwards hadn't been so completely ineffectual.

 

[jackag24]

Jackson Mead has been one of the few players to go forwards rather than backwards this season. I love his clean ball handling, his ability to shrug a tackle, his ability to always find a teammate with a short kick or handball. He reminds me a lot of Josh Carr. No nonsense player but very effective.

I thought he was probably our most consistent mid last night. He's coming along really well considering he hasn't played even 50 games. I think he'll be a player.

Our top rated player in terms of Player Ratings too

 

[Playthekids76]

He's top 3 for total effective kicks but he also takes considerably more kicks than most players. And the effective kicks stats is inflated for basically everyone who plays in the back half, due to safe kicks around the defensive zone

Luke Ryan has 45 more effective kicks than the next best.

Bonners stats still present as more or less the same (or poorer) compared to our other HBs.

I really think not having Bonner in the team is the least of our problems

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Cant see Jones on your list?? Which was my point!

 

[Playthekids76]

Last night i saw one example when he genuinely put his body on the line to smash someone (i think it was cripps) and it was an effective use of his body.

The problem is he never does shit like that, like ever. He lets smaller opponents bully him constantly

I was being sarcastic!

He might be tough but he's bloody horrendous at everything else required to be an AFL player.

 

[jackag24]

Cant see Jones on your list?? Which was my point!

Jones is shit, he's not a lockdown defender nor a running half back.

Having to pick between Jones or Bonner is a form of cruel and unusual punishment. Please don't make me pick

 

[Scodges]

does anyone remeber that soft weak as piss effort by todd marshall

4

Todd Marshall

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

8.9

2star

K

7.1

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.6

5star

, he was inside 50 at the southern end and arived second to a ground ball and was about to tackle the carlton payer but backed out because he was too soft

We all saw it, it was at that moment when I switched off.


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[Duck Farmer]

The fox footy panel know we are absolute frauds. They're no fools, they just don't care enough to rant about it. If anyone in the Vic media cared enough we'd have a ten min segment on on the couch highlighting our fraudulent ways.

Our leadership is full of weak, unaccountable snowflakes who would wilt in a microsecond if the media blowtorch was applied to them. Look at their reaction to a random sticker and one negative comment from Tredrea.

Unfortunately no-one in the media really gives enough of a rats about us to do this.

 

[Palpatine_Power]

This example was the worst of it.

I can't fathom his positioning here.

Literally 3 meters off his direct opponent leaving the goal face wide open. What exactly is he trying to do here?

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He's even wrong footed, what a potato

 

[davo999]

I’ll give Marshall a slight bit of benefit of the doubt that his job was to keep Wetering out of the play but he must become at least competitive physically. I don’t know if he’s worried about another concussion or not but his lack of physicality is becoming alarming .
It is a man’s game and all players need to be able to handle heat

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I’ll give Marshall a slight bit of benefit of the doubt that his job was to keep Wetering out of the play but he must become at least competitive physically. I don’t know if he’s worried about another concussion or not but his lack of physicality is becoming alarming .
It is a man’s game and all players need to be able to handle heat

The great news with that one is that Todd is contracted to 2029.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I really thought De Koning was really impressive and I really like Zac Williams and his three goals.

 

[davo999]

With BZT , Ratogalea and Allir all poor below their knees , the support cast need to be strong in that area , I’m not sure if Jones and Burton are , Sean opening for Sinn when he recovers from his collarbone injury.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

It's weird to think Hinkley had so much to do with Blight tbh, Blight would've fixed Burton with the old three strikes or pissed him off, Dixon & Boak forget about it they'd be retired or elsewhere.

People remember the eccentric Blight, the genius Blight, the mad professor Blight.

What people forget is that Blight was a senior executive. He didn't leave Woodville in 1987 to go to Victoria for footy or to call the footy for 7 in 1988, he left because he got a promotion and was made National Manager of Brambles Transport/CHEP. In today's $$$, that means he was head of a billion dollar division of a major public company.

He had the smarts as well as the toughness to make big decisions. Public companies with 6 monthly reporting to the stock exchange are held accountable by institutional investors, which means boards and executives are held accountable to deliver on targets and budgets. Kenny sold used cars and then was enticed out of AFL footy at 29, by the Butcher to become a pieman - salesman, and to coach the Butcher's country football team. One had a hard edge, one didn't.

 

[Gryllis]

Thinking more today, we got way too cute with the Finlayson sub plan. Not dissimilar to the BZT sub plan.

I'm assuming they knew Soldo would struggle to run out the game and planned to sub him for Finlayson, who could then share ruck work with a rested Dixon.

They did not factor in Dixon being so cooked that he'd need to be subbed instead.