Opinion Player list management and game plan 2019 part 2

[DazalenkoUBewty]

We need 22 players to have better skills, but even with better skills you still 4 or 5 players with genuine blistering speed. Look at Hawthorn they won flags, they had a few players with genuine speed when they also had great skilled players but slowish in leg speed.

Hawthorn also had some very good on-field leaders who were also class footballers... Same as Geelong through their premierships.

 

[Visenfest]

Cam Hewett is still on the list? why?

Club forgot he's on the list, presumably.

 

[ozph1870]

picking up menzel would be the biggest back flip from our defense first attitude

That's exactly why we should get him.fk this defense type crap that has ruined the club for 3 years straight.

 

[ozph1870]

Imagine if we didn't draft any KPDs and for some reason played McKenzie at half forward.

KPDs in the Magpies: Matthew Broadbent, Sam Mayes and Jack Trengove. The future is bright.

Mckenzie will never play in defense for the power. Too slow. I'd be bringing in some mature aged key defenders from sanfl or vfl clubs with the rookie draft to provide depth at sanfl level while trying Mckenzie up forward.

 

[ozph1870]

Rooch reckons we are rebuilding but too scared to say we are rebuilding.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...s/news-story/af8d954cb56989ed30dca4500047d8cd
SO what is it at Port Adelaide?

There were 11 changes to the Power player list last year — and, so far, 10 through the most recent trade and delisting sessions. Virtually half the squad has been turned over in two years. But club chief executive Keith Thomas says it is not a “rebuild” — a theme that AFL clubs are reluctant to have attached to them for fear of being seen to be falling back, rather than advancing, in the premiership race. Or on a slow journey, as noted at Brisbane.......... But no-one — certainly not Port Adelaide today — will say “rebuild”. Carlton called its recent clear out — 54 list changes from the end of 2015 when it appointed Brendon Bolton as senior coach — as a “reset”.........
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...s/news-story/af8d954cb56989ed30dca4500047d8cd

It can't be a rebuild while half the list is filled with slow 28 yo plus fumble merchants and failed recruits with zero success, anywhere.
Trading out Chad and Polec isn't rebuilding, It's stupidity, moving on several senior players with zero chance of success here is what we should have done. Rebuilt properly. Right now we are floating in no man's land. Don't really know where we are at. Completely mismanaged list.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Rucci is so hung up on the word rebuild. I would deliberately not use it just to annoy him.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Spoiler: We're pre-rebuilding.

Next year when Gray, Boak and Westhoff are likely on their last legs it'll be full blown rebuild time. We're just getting inb4.

Any propaganda from the club about the list being awesome can suck a dick.

 

[Power Raid]

Rooch reckons we are rebuilding but too scared to say we are rebuilding.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...s/news-story/af8d954cb56989ed30dca4500047d8cd
SO what is it at Port Adelaide?

There were 11 changes to the Power player list last year — and, so far, 10 through the most recent trade and delisting sessions. Virtually half the squad has been turned over in two years. But club chief executive Keith Thomas says it is not a “rebuild” — a theme that AFL clubs are reluctant to have attached to them for fear of being seen to be falling back, rather than advancing, in the premiership race. Or on a slow journey, as noted at Brisbane.......... But no-one — certainly not Port Adelaide today — will say “rebuild”. Carlton called its recent clear out — 54 list changes from the end of 2015 when it appointed Brendon Bolton as senior coach — as a “reset”.........
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...s/news-story/af8d954cb56989ed30dca4500047d8cd

Revitalisation

 

[MALTSY]

Would Callum Wilkie be worth a shot on the rookie list?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I will quote a bit of Buckenara's article seeing I quoted too much before and had it deleted.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...n/news-story/1ee27a78318bc8870da93711802aef2f
PORT ADELAIDE’S LIST NEEDS
The Power has a fairly balanced list but the glaring hole was in the ruck and finding back-up for Ryder, which was solved by the acquisition of Lycett. The departures of Wingard and Polec exacerbates the Power’s need for speed through the middle, so that should also be a priority either through the draft.

Boak, Sam Powell-Pepper, Ryder, Motlop, Ebert, Hamish Hartlett, the Grays, Rockliff, Wines, Clurey, Dixon, Watts, Bonner, Howard, Houston, Westhoff, Byrne-Jones and Jonas is a good start at generating the 25-30 players capable at AFL level you need to be a contender, the challenge is to develop that hard edge you need to match it with the top sides. That’s what this list really needs.
.....
CRYSTAL BALL
The Power have enough talent to play finals next year but this group must to find a harder edge. That won’t sit well with Port Adelaide people but the reality is without developing that next level of commitment and sacrifice, the trend of beating bottom sides but struggling against top teams will continue. Ultimately that’s the difference between being a contender and either missing finals or being knocked out in the first week................................. The team is in limbo — can it, or does it want to, take the next step?

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...n/news-story/1ee27a78318bc8870da93711802aef2f

 

[VineValerian]

Cam Hewett is still on the list? why?

Cam Who-it?

 

[VineValerian]

You can be slow and skillful, or fast and unskillful

But you can’t be both slow and unskillful - which we as a collective are

Slow and skillful.
Quick and skillful.
Both ok.
Slow and unskillful.
Fast and unskillful.
No was Jose.

 

[VineValerian]

Revitalisation

Rejuvenation.

 

[MrChow]

You can be slow and skillful, or fast and unskillful

But you can’t be both slow and unskillful - which we as a collective are

Also being fast, knowing how to create space, good structures around stoppage, running from behind help in kicking efficiency, as players are not having to kick the impossible

 

[raptalia]

if we gave brett eddy a gig menzel is essentially Eddy but better in nearly every way
especailly if its out of him/Hewett

Two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[raptalia]

I've been keen on Menzel for a couple of years now. Low risk, high reward. Defensive pressure is overrated, kicking goals is underrated.

You cannot be serious.

I will quote a bit of Buckenara's article seeing I quoted too much before and had it deleted.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...n/news-story/1ee27a78318bc8870da93711802aef2f
PORT ADELAIDE’S LIST NEEDS
The Power has a fairly balanced list but the glaring hole was in the ruck and finding back-up for Ryder, which was solved by the acquisition of Lycett. The departures of Wingard and Polec exacerbates the Power’s need for speed through the middle, so that should also be a priority either through the draft.

Boak, Sam Powell-Pepper, Ryder, Motlop, Ebert, Hamish Hartlett, the Grays, Rockliff, Wines, Clurey, Dixon, Watts, Bonner, Howard, Houston, Westhoff, Byrne-Jones and Jonas is a good start at generating the 25-30 players capable at AFL level you need to be a contender, the challenge is to develop that hard edge you need to match it with the top sides. That’s what this list really needs.
.....
CRYSTAL BALL
The Power have enough talent to play finals next year but this group must to find a harder edge. That won’t sit well with Port Adelaide people but the reality is without developing that next level of commitment and sacrifice, the trend of beating bottom sides but struggling against top teams will continue. Ultimately that’s the difference between being a contender and either missing finals or being knocked out in the first week................................. The team is in limbo — can it, or does it want to, take the next step?

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...n/news-story/1ee27a78318bc8870da93711802aef2f

Fair comment imo.
The onus is on Hinkley to get the message across to a bunch of players who do not do enough when it counts. Jack Cahill always used to talk about work rates and told us when the boys 'didn't work hard enough'. We have too many players who take possession dispose of the ball and stop running. Too many players who do not work hard enough to move down the ground and cover or zone opposition players, too many players who will not make the effort to run to space so that the bloke in possession has a target to kick to. How much of that is down to individuals not working hard enough and how much is down to a flawed game plan is debatable but either way it is up to Hinkley to fix it. Of course our low skill levels do not help but fixing that is also down to Hinkley and his staff.

 

[TeeKray]

So we have a squad that is slow, poorly skilled and old. This squad finished 10th last season. It also lost its two best ball users and two best players from the mid range age demographic of the list.

It's frighteningly obvious where we're headed lol

 

[Hammer#8]

Menzel in our forward line wouldn't work. A player of his type needs an open paddock to work with and lead into, or the delivery to be perfect most times. His scoring opportunities would dry up significantly in our broken system, with him being promptly dropped for not being defensive enough after our team puts in a bad performance.

How often do we score out of clean forward 50 entries with a player on a lead who takes a set shot, we only ever score with chaos ball or having Dixon play a kamikazee, rough housing style that is like pulling teeth.

He'd produce a 30-goal year when fit in one of Essendon/GWS/Richmond teams with actual structure though.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

So we have a squad that is slow, poorly skilled and old. This squad finished 10th last season. It also lost its two best ball users and two best players from the mid range age demographic of the list.

It's frighteningly obvious where we're headed lol

We need to absolutely rebuild but our leadership group lives off the glory of 2014 and still think they're the top dog and setting the standard.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

Our leadership needs a rebuild.

 

[Waspy79]

If that Jenkins point wasn’t called a goal, would we be where we are now? I can’t help but think that horrendous umpiring mistake has brought us undone in more ways than one.

 

[Doctor Feel]

So we have a squad that is slow, poorly skilled and old. This squad finished 10th last season. It also lost its two best ball users and two best players from the mid range age demographic of the list.

It's frighteningly obvious where we're headed lol

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[manureid]

Look forward to out usual 'speed reaming' at etihad by the likes of Essendon.

 

[PA88]

If that Jenkins point wasn’t called a goal, would we be where we are now? I can’t help but think that horrendous umpiring mistake has brought us undone in more ways than one.

We'd still be a failure.

 

[Magus]

If that Jenkins point wasn’t called a goal, would we be where we are now? I can’t help but think that horrendous umpiring mistake has brought us undone in more ways than one.

Yeah we might have lost a final and ended up with worse draft picks.