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Adelaide has been “successful” so far because they hunt the ground ball as a collective.

For example, Collingwood has seven players in the top 100 of the competition for ground ball gets (Pendlebury is 101st). Port and Adelaide have five each.

But while we only have 3 players from 101-200 (Houston, Powell-Pepper, Boak), and Collingwood has two (Pendlebury and Noble), they have 9 (Sholl, Keays, Jones, Milera, Smith, Murphy, Doedee, Thilthorpe, Hinge).

9 players in the top 200 for Collingwood. 8 players in the top 200 for Port Adelaide. 11 players in the top 200 for Melbourne (Brisbane has hardly any which is why I don’t trust them to do anything in finals because winning ground ball is key in contested games).

Adelaide - 14 in the top 200.

Their entire rise is based not on skill/talent, but on effort and fitness that comes from the Burgess Surge. So when they come up against a side that is putting in the same effort but actually does have skill/talent, like the Bulldogs, they will inevitably lose. As the season progresses the effort will fall away. Then holes appear in the defence and it’s Port circa 2015-2017 all over again because suddenly no one wants to chase and people are thinking “What happen Crom?” and calling for Nicks to be sacked.

The problem being that if your team has poor kicks, you are creating more ground ball opportunities than normal. It’s fair enough if your players are taking a risky kick into the corridor for that to turn into a ground ball opportunity, but when you’re ****ing up under pressure there’s only so many times a teammate will have the desire and fitness to keep chasing down those balls.

This style of play only works if you’ve got elite ball users in the midfield like Butters, Rozee and Horne-Francis plus great kicks out of defence like Houston, Burton, Williams and Bergman - guys who will hit their targets under pressure more often than not. Adelaide has a decent forward line so they are expert at making teams pay full price when the pressure isn’t there, but there’s no ****ing way they are anywhere near winning a final let alone a flag.
 
Re the bummers v tiggers game, and this may have been mentioned before but it's the first time I have noticed it, for some reason the behind the player camera work for set shots looked like the cam was on another building a couple of suburbs away and even for those taken only 15-20 metres from the goal square it looked like the kick had to travel multiple times the actual distance.

If it's some sort of new camera technique being used for a trial period as far as I'm concerned they can stick it where the sun don't shine.

I think it’s just the spidercam, which they’ve been using for overhead shots for a few years now, except hung lower in set shot scenarios and using a wide-angle lens.

I don’t mind it.
 
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You won't get an argument from me re Sheedy and the sniping thug bit B F.

I attended what from memory was one of those end of season `championship' games between North Adelaide and Richmond at Adelaide oval in the very early 1970's when Sheedy sniped a chook's player who was on his hands and knees trying to pick up the ball near the right fwd pocket river end of Adelaide oval.

I can't remember the North bloke's name but he was a swarthy dark haired very well built utility type who would have been about 6' 2ish, and apparently worked as a bouncer at some of the rougher pubs around town.

Words were obviously exchanged, and if looks could kill Sheedy's funeral would have been held a few days later, with the upshot being that he gave the North bloke a very wide berth for the rest of that game.

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the North bloke's name was Arch Wilkey

I went the year the Palindromes broke their premiership drought (1973) and they played Richmond in the first round of the tournament. From memory Gnewg lost the toss for jumper choice and had to wear yellow. Can't remember details, but I think Sheeds broke one or two of the local Tigers payers and Richmond won the game.

Scottsdale were the Tassie team and wore the same jumper design as Collingwood, who'd wobbled out of the VFL flag race in the prelim final, so one other potential jumper clash was avoided. The WA team was Subiaco, who had also broken a long premiership drought. They lost to Richmond in the final, but had some notable players who went on to VFL honours: Mike Fitzpatrick and Peter Fetherby. Oh, and a handy cricketer called Mick Malone.
 

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Simpson absolutely needs to go. Not only are the eagles s**t they are also boring. At least norf are a bit entertaining.
100%

Been trying to say this for ages.

We are worse than vanilla.

If anything thought we could pick up some exciting talent in the MSD for a reason to watch.

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West Coasts sub today, Greg Clark, is a 25yo 195cm former ice skater.

'He dreamed of competing in the Olympics but on a chance visit from West Coast Eagles great Mark Nicoski he was convinced to take up Australian Rules Football. Within a year he was drafted by the West Coast Eagles and hung up his ice skates for good.'

Also he had 25 touches and 7 marks in his debut game last year.

huh
 

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West Coasts sub today, Greg Clark, is a 25yo 195cm former ice skater.

'He dreamed of competing in the Olympics but on a chance visit from West Coast Eagles great Mark Nicoski he was convinced to take up Australian Rules Football. Within a year he was drafted by the West Coast Eagles and hung up his ice skates for good.'

Also he had 25 touches and 7 marks in his debut game last year.

huh

Yeah, huh?

 
His Wiki page has a few mistakes. He was a junior figure skater and was convinced to take up football at 18. Mark Nicoski must be big into his underage boys ice skating.

"Wind the clock back to 2015 and Clark had captained the Western Australia U18 side in the National Championships"
 
The crom are a 6 goal better side at AO. It's like the early 90s over again. Powerhouse at home, easybeats away

Their home draw after Brisbane looks soft until the Showdown.

Upside for them is they should win those games. Downside is they must be playing reasonably good teams away.

They could have won away against some of the teams coming to AO, and pinched a win here and there at home.
 
West Coasts sub today, Greg Clark, is a 25yo 195cm former ice skater.

'He dreamed of competing in the Olympics but on a chance visit from West Coast Eagles great Mark Nicoski he was convinced to take up Australian Rules Football. Within a year he was drafted by the West Coast Eagles and hung up his ice skates for good.'

Also he had 25 touches and 7 marks in his debut game last year.

huh

The first thing that came to mind was Will Farrell
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If anything, Adam Simpson should give West Coast the boot.

He would easily get another senior coaching job in the AFL. I’d definitely have him as our coach next year.
Commentators saying they can't sack him because he still has 2 years and the soft cap.

Why would WCE care about the soft cap? They could sack him 5 times and pay quadriple to the AFL soft cap and still afford it.

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Their home draw after Brisbane looks soft until the Showdown.

Upside for them is they should win those games. Downside is they must be playing reasonably good teams away.

They could have won away against some of the teams coming to AO, and pinched a win here and there at home.
At best they get 13 wins for the season.

Most likely 11.
 
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