Can't help think that the style of footy the Pies (and Tigers in their pomp) is helped by playing lots of night games, it's more slippery and fumbles are punished more, plus they just seem to be better one-grabbers of even loose balls and ones reefed out of tackles. We've coughed up a lot of turnovers and they have been quite severely punished. But if we can just be a bit cleaner and maybe SDK starts to get his hand on the ball a bit more...the hit-out numbers I read in an earlier post are staggering, it might keep us in the game. But Collingwood is pretty much runball/tackleball and then sprint forward once a turnover happens.