Rnd 13: Changes Vs Hawks

[rhysman]

Out : Lonergan, Dyson, Welsh
In : Williams, Hooker, Atkinson

The inclusions of Hooker and Atkinson will allow Fletcher to play the third man and will also release Myers to the midfield. Williams will add another element to our forward line and really trouble the Hawks back six. Lonergan doesn't offer much to our side and Dyson and Welsh need to earn their games.

When will people understand that Welsh will not be dropped! He is the VC and Knights loves him. Besides, we will need him to tag Hodge or Mitchell. Knights said last week that Williams was 'weeks' away from a senior recall as he needed better fitness and attitude. Didn't play for Bendigo on the weekend so don't see him coming back in.
OUT:Lonergan, Dyson
IN: Hooker, Prismall

 

[Hirdman]

When will people understand that Welsh will not be dropped! He is the VC and Knights loves him. Besides, we will need him to tag Hodge or Mitchell. Knights said last week that Williams was 'weeks' away from a senior recall as he needed better fitness and attitude. Didn't play for Bendigo on the weekend so don't see him coming back in.
OUT:Lonergan, Dyson
IN: Hooker, Prismall

He is not selecting the side simply putting up his view. I agree Welsh wont be dropped (yet) as he is the VC and he was very good against Sydney but I do believe he will be out of our best 22 by the end of the year VC or no VC. Charlie dont surf.

 

[Boucks09]

Ins: Prismall, Hooker

Outs: Lonergan, Melksham

This will allow Myers to replace Melksham in the middle, whilst removing Lonergan with a midfielder who can run a game out.

I don't think we need a lock down defensive forward this week.

 

[anf06]

I hear Williams didn't play with Bendigo. Does that mean he's a chance for a call up?

I don't understand how people haven't heard that he is injured. Foot. Will not play.

 

[james_omahoney]

I did a quick one from 08-09-10 only, we're 23.5/56 = 42%, and Welsh is 13/35 = 37%.

Ah ok. So you included all games to get the 42%? The way I did it was to take games where he did play vs. games where he didn't. This is how it came out:

I also excluded the draws but included finals. Doesn't really make much diff either way.

I tried excluding 05/06 and even this year to see if it changed it, but it's at least 10 % however you change it.

 

[Towno78]

Ins: Prismall, Hooker

Outs: Lonergan, Melksham

This will allow Myers to replace Melksham in the middle, whilst removing Lonergan with a midfielder who can run a game out.

I don't think we need a lock down defensive forward this week.

This week is tough, I think I like this best.

I don't understand how people haven't heard that he is injured. Foot. Will not play.

Link? I haven't heard either.

 

[BomberTime]

More I think about it i believe knights will not make too many changes as he is stubborn so we will probably see:

Out: Dyson/slattery, melksham, lonergan
In: Atkinson, Hooker, Prismall

Mcveigh Pears Slattery
Fletcher Hooker Atkinson
Hocking Stanton Dempsey
Winderlich Gumbleton Jetta
Davey Hurley Zaharakis
Ryder Watson Welsh
Myers Prismall NLM Bellchambers

But would love to see both slattery and dyson out of that side and welsh eventually as well, and marigliani picked.

 

[Towno78]

How could you drop Bellie?

Pears has one more week's grace for mine. Hooker back in for Franklin, Pears to Roughie who he's got a reasonable record on.
Hooker/Atko/Reimers/Howlett for Dyson/Lonergan/Slattery/Welsh, for my money.

Around the grounds I thought Bellie was ok on Saturday, did some good things, but in the first half when the game was on, I thought we were absolutely slayed in the middle when Bellie was in there.
I thought this watching live, so I just watched the replay to double check:

In the first half, when Ryder was in the ruck: Ess 6 goals, Geel 5 goals
When Bellchambres was in the ruck: Ess 2 goals, Geel 6 Goals

We really missed Hille a lot on the weekend, I think we'd have been in front at the main change if he played. Obviously he won't play again this weekend, but what's the point of replacing him with a ruckman with little potential around the grounds if we're getting slayed when he's rucking anyway? It's not like Blake and West are stars either.

I'd be all up for someone pinch hitting instead while Ryder rests.

 

[anf06]

Link? I haven't heard either.

Chris, who is very good friends with him posted up last week, telling us that he wouldn't play, despite being named on the team sheet. He is a very good source for all things Willo.

I will try to find his quote.

 

[TheDon35]

Ok,

Out, Slattery, Dyson, Gumbleton Winderlich
In, Colyer, T Slattery, Neagle, Long.

Gumbleton looks like the season is catching up with him having played every game this year. I think it's time he had a week back in the seconds or an extended stint to freshen up the body.

I'd like to see Neagle get 3 weeks at the level to proove himself to the club. If he can't then so be it.

Dyson is an extremely over rated footballer who has very very little impact on games of football. Time to look at developing some new talent.

H Slattery is what he is. It's time we realised that Welsh, Slattery and McVeigh can't play in the same team and Slattery is the worst of them (NLM, Lonergan, Hocking and Watson all being in the same team don't help which is an indightment on the selection committee).

Winderlich is prooving himself with each game to be the most dissappointing waste of football talent we've had for a long time. Consistently not at his best which is reason for him to move over for a few weeks and allow someone like Long / Colyer to come in and have a go.

Before I start hearing the rubbish about Winders being injured.... If he's injured then he shouldn't have been playing.

 

[Slattery_20]

Before we start resting players, remember the week off is after this game.

 

[Pweter]

Out: Melksham, Lonergan, Slattery
In: Hooker, Atkinson, Muscles

McVeigh, Pears, Fletcher
Hocking, Hooker, Atkinson
Dempsey, Watson, Stanton
Winderlich, Gumbleton, Zaharakis
Jetta, Hurley, Davey
Ryder, NLM, Welsh

Muscles, Bellchambers, Myers, Dyson

I looked at this and thought that it looked a more balanced side with Lonergan out, Dempsey on a wing and Winderlich on a flank. I don't mind Atkinson on a HBF as long as Dempsey is not on the other flank as they are both unaccountable. You can cover 1 of them but not both, hence Hocking being on the other flank. Muscles gets his chance and will fit into the midfield/forward rotations.

I don't see the Dons play in the flesh very often at all so those that do may see major flaws in this but I didn't mind it.

 

[TheDon35]

Before we start resting players, remember the week off is after this game.

Yep, I would have thought a good time to look at Gumby with his history and say here's 3 weeks to refresh for a week, then have a couple of weeks to really get onto the track or pool or whatever he does and rebuild for the second half of the year.

 

[TheDon35]

One other...

It's time to look at Dempsey in another position. He's been up and down with his down being pretty ordinary.

For mine he's been played as a half back for too long and he could be an incredibly damaging wing / half forward that can pinch hit down back.

I really don't understand this compulsion to play him every single game as a half back.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I've been thinking about this all week, and really struggling to find enough outs.

With Peterson and Rioli, I think we need both Slattery and McVeigh this week. So looking at other players out of form I come up with Lonergan, Melksham and Dyson. However, I don't think Dyson will come out, and I'm not sure I want Melksham out either. My ins are Atkinson, Prismall and Hooker.

I certainly don't envy the match committee this week.

 

[Slattery_20]

Peterson's a semi-tall Motlop type. Not a guy either could match up on.
Doesn't get a lot of footy directed his way, I'd try Dempsey on him.

IMHO Lonergan out, Hooker in. That simple.

Pushes Myers further forward.
They're not going to drop Welsh or Slatts.

 

[beev]

Chris, who is very good friends with him posted up last week, telling us that he wouldn't play, despite being named on the team sheet. He is a very good source for all things Willo.

I will try to find his quote.

Not your quote, but further confirmation:

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7555

Dangerous forward Mark Williams is expected to be rested for a second weekend after an on-going heel complaint flared up.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7555

Hooker and Hocking good to go on Friday night.

 

[juppy]

Not your quote, but further confirmation:

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7555



http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7555

Hooker and Hocking good to go on Friday night.

Not that I wish injury on a player but it is good to see that Williams has a small niggling injury. Been worried about his form and an injury like this can explain it all. Hopefully after a few weeks off he can come back and play the last 6-8 games at full fittness and show us the Mark that we all know and love to watch.

As for some of the comments above:

Dempsey: Would love to see him on the wing. Plays a bit too loose to be further back when there are forwards that can really punish you. His loose style of play has been taken advantage of in the last few weeks, and a small tweak of his role could really save us a few goals a game.

Neagle: Needs to earn a selection.

Gumby: Overall I like what I see. He gets involved in the plays, creates a contest and sometimes you will even see him up the other half of the ground providing an option out of defence. Think he may have had an off week with his kicking against Geelong but his effort around the ground does not suggest he is tired. Missed a few goals that really should have been kicked. Hopefully they got him working on that this week then everyone will be happy.

I would do something like:

Ins: Hooker, Atkinson, Pris
Outs: Dyson, Lonergan, ????

Cant think of anyone that would desreve the third out.

Oh, and Hurley to destory the Hawks as he seems to love doing

 

[Vass38]

I dont thnk there will be to many changes looking at the possible match ups. Maybe reimers & prismall in for Lonergan & Melksham. I think let Hooker rest - it wont do him any harm with the break coming to get himself completly right and be fresh for the second half of the year. Looks pretty even all over the park - Ive higlighted in bold where i think a player is clearly better than his match up. never an exact science this as they wont line up exactly like this but none the less looks pretty even I reckon.

Gueera Gilham Murphy
Reimers Hurley Davey

Birchall Shoemakers Stratton
Prismal Gumby Zaharakis

Bateman Mitchell Lewis
Winders Watson Jetta

Rioli Buddy Burgoyne
Dempsey Pears Dyson

Osborne Roughead Peterson
Hocking Fletch McVeigh

Renouf Hodge Sewell
Ryder Welsh Stanton

Ladson Young Ellis Skipper
H.Slat NLM Myers Bellchambers


Their Half forward line looks particularly ominous and we got to try stop it as well as Hodge. If we can do this will go a long way towards winning the game I reckon. Hopefully Paddy can cause some havoc and Davey and Hurley will trouble their defence. Comon Dons - season defining - COMON!!!

 

[lamaros]

Hooker is coming in. Pretty clear on that if you read the Essendon website.

 

[yaco55]

Out; Dempsey, Lonergan, Rioli
In; Hooker, Reimers/T.Slattery, Marigliani

Reimers was shocking against Box Hill Hawks but I would select if him - if he overcomes his foot/ankle injury.

T.Slattery - Banging down the ball - play if Reimers is unavailable.

Marigliani is ready to play AFL footy - Now is as good a time as any.

Hooker is an automatic selection.

 

[resurrector]

a lot of heads seem to be in favour of marigliani being promoted for his 1st gig, not saying i'm against this but how likely is it that he'll be elevated for this game? i understand his vfl form has been pretty good but i dont remember his name being thrown out there much by the coaching staff and have never seen him named in the emergencies.....

 

[Longy413]

I don't see what all the fuss is about with him to be honest.
To me, he just screams VFL player.

 

[Boucks09]

Out; Dempsey, Lonergan, Rioli
In; Hooker, Reimers/T.Slattery, Marigliani

Reimers was shocking against Box Hill Hawks but I would select if him - if he overcomes his foot/ankle injury.

T.Slattery - Banging down the ball - play if Reimers is unavailable.

Marigliani is ready to play AFL footy - Now is as good a time as any.

Hooker is an automatic selection.

I have it on very good authority that he is playing VFL this week. Absolutely guarentee it.

 

[james_omahoney]

Reimers was one of our better players before his injury.