AFL Autopsy RND 7: Draw Against The Pies

[MiguelM]

Good game. s**t result.
If we can clean up the unforced errors and bring some cleaner ball users we might be ok

This is the difference atm.

Hopefully come out and smash Eagles.

 

[ant555]

Is what it is . Frantic last 10 minutes with both sides making plenty of mistakes.

They simply have the confidence to run and spread hard where we do not. Being a good side allows that . Then they pressure pretty well .
Too bad we didn’t have the Pies of 3 weeks ago when their defensive pressure was down.
Anyway. Two points and Elliot didn’t get a shot after the siren .

 

[BLA60]

Take the anchors dragging us down out of that team and it's a convincing win.

Thank god Durham and Merrett have broad shoulders to carry these peanuts.

Take the draw in what was a questionable team selection.

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[Gumby2Hurley]

both teams had chances. stinks but at least it isn't a loss.


That campaigner degoey better get looked at for a blatant trip on stringer.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Got the 2 points for the ladder.

Learn from the mistakes, and the opportunities to win it.

Especially when we were up by 5 goals. You shouldn't allow teams to even come back from that.

We need to work on being able to put our foot down when we get ascendency. Hopefully when we get to a higher professional level as a team and transition from being a developing one we can roll on top of teams more often.

 

[MiguelM]

Gutted but the result is way worse for the Pies.

Clean up turnovers and we win that. Looked nervous at times and Backline still a worry.

Good to see Davey get into the game in the last.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

It is relevant. You saying it isn't bluntly doesn't make it so. Our game is not as taxing is much faster than baseball.

Soccer ends in draws and their ladder actually decides the premierships. You're being silly comparing sports by shifting goal posts conveniently. And our sport doesn't even have that many draws. 29 years since the last drawn Anzac Day. Meh, "turn it up".

3 hours to make a difference. Our sport allows games to win by missing at a wide goal. Which sport allows that?

You have to take your chances and you have plenty of chances. If you can't in 3 hours, with a wide goal like that by awarding you a win from missing then you don't deserve it.

Games should be decided by playing well, taking your shots, choosing the best teams. Not rushed for a result just because you're impatient like a baby. Talking about a bygone era... maybe it's time you grow a little up and realise that things are finite (time in games) and not everything is going to black and white.

No, you're just saying length of time matters because you for some reason think it gives your argument gravitas. It's completely irrelevant. Much more "taxing" therefore a draw is somehow more or less justified? Clutching at straws now mate seriously.

Again - we already have extra time in finals and the world hasn't ended, and the best team always comes out on top. It makes for memorable games and a better outcome than leaving a whole crowd and playing group unsatisfied.

I don't see any real arguments for keeping the draw outside of resisting change for the sake of it. You need to move with the times and realise the game can always be improved upon and this is one of those instances. Real "old man yells at cloud" about this take.

 

[dank420_]

Drawn it at selection

Please explain this

 

[MiguelM]

Got the 2 points for the ladder.

Learn from the mistakes, and the opportunities to win it.

Especially when we were up by 5 goals. You shouldn't allow teams to even come back from that.

We need to work on being able to put our foot down when we get ascendency.

Modern footy is hard to keep momentum but agree should have done better.

Some of the non holding the ball for Daicos shows he is a protected species.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Merrett and Durham were excellent. McGrath mostly great, same with Langers. McKay has been good for us all year.

Hobbs and Davey both had mares.

 

[ant555]

We certainly did lack a genuine crumbing small forward. The amount of times we had to kick to a contest but had no one at ground level was frustrating.

 

[carnthedons]

Part of me is disappointed not to get the win. Another part of me just watched us have psychological fortitude, heart and system we’ve not seen in decades. Skill errors will always be there, the way we played though against one of the best was great, getting up and going again time and again. Knights/Worsfold/Rutten era dons would’ve had that second quarter, hung their heads and got done by 8 goals+. Important thing is to back it up though, persistence & consistency are king.

 

[sameolds33]

No, you're just saying length of time matters because you for some reason think it gives your argument gravitas. It's completely irrelevant. Much more "taxing" therefore a draw is somehow more or less justified? Clutching at straws now mate seriously.

Again - we already have extra time in finals and the world hasn't ended, and the best team always comes out on top. It makes for memorable games and a better outcome than leaving a whole crowd and playing group unsatisfied.

I don't see any real arguments for keeping the draw outside of resisting change for the sake of it. You need to move with the times and realise the game can always be improved upon and this is one of those instances. Real "old man yells at cloud" about this take.

soccer has draws - doesn't make it any less exciting

 

[jannissary]

this was a winnable game, but we have too many passengers in our time.

hind, kelly and laverde.

i'd bet any amount of money that they'd all struggle to get games elsewhere. hind had the chance to lose us the game when he kicked a little shit kick right at the end. laverde is too small for his position and opposition, and too slow to play on smaller players. kelly's touch is terrible and i feel like he doesn't think when he plays.

out of those 3, hind and laverde should be dropped because they actively make the team worse.

 

[The Devils Advocate]

Meh, at least our shit percentage doesn't mean anything suddenly.

 

[deedog2]

May I ask why Hobbs spent nearly half the game on the bench?

 

[Schnitzengruben]

soccer has draws - doesn't make it any less exciting

Soccer is different in the sense you can go 90 minutes without a single goal. Extra time doesn't really make sense in that scenario. Ending a game on a penalty shootout is a bit too luck based IMO. Which is why OT works for Baseball and Basketball.

 

[Howard Moon]

So many times I thought Collingwood had an easy mark only for Durham to stand tall In front of the pack, he's the best!

Martin needs to play forward of centre, far more damaging.

No more Hind or Kelly pls.

 

[Old Campaigner]

May I ask why Hobbs spent nearly half the game on the bench?

We're too short when he's on the field

 

[Call Me Cake]

No, you're just saying length of time matters because you for some reason think it gives your argument gravitas. It's completely irrelevant. Much more "taxing" therefore a draw is somehow more or less justified? Clutching at straws now mate seriously.

Again - we already have extra time in finals and the world hasn't ended, and the best team always comes out on top. It makes for memorable games and a better outcome than leaving a whole crowd and playing group unsatisfied.

I don't see any real arguments for keeping the draw outside of resisting change for the sake of it. You need to move with the times and realise the game can always be improved upon and this is one of those instances. Real "old man yells at cloud" about this take.

Nah it's relevant because it shows ample opportunity.

All you do is bring up other sports. Sports that are not the same as ours, or give opportunities to prevent draws like ours. They're not common. It all goes to show that if you truly deserve it in our sport, your effort will make it happen. And we don't have draws that often. It's why they pay $71 if you choose one.

Then you conveniently ignore soccer. The biggest sport in the world. And the fact that their championships are decided on that. They don't even have finals. We use season games to simply decide the order of those finals. That's it.

You bring up red herrings, I'm using them back against you and you're squirming because it's inconvenient when you tried to make it convenient by ignoring the biggest example.

It goes to show that some competitions can go ahead with a split-result, particularly when their cup is decided by it, yet you can't, and say it's a relic? You're out of touch mate.

Fact of the matter is - we had the chance to win it through 3 hours. By picking good teams. By even bombing it at a 30m wide goal area with disregard for precise accuracy to gain 1 point (a unique feature of our sport), but couldn't. 3 hours for elite athletes to make a difference. Did not get in front for either of those minutes. You focusing on the end so much with recency bias is short-sighted but also is doing a disservice to the taxing expansive game they play and are giving them an out for not taking full advantage of it.

You're impatient, short-sighted, and mad. It's okay. Agree to disagree.

 

[The Devils Advocate]

Part of me is disappointed not to get the win. Another part of me just watched us have psychological fortitude, heart and system we’ve not seen in decades. Skill errors will always be there, the way we played though against one of the best was great, getting up and going again time and again. Knights/Worsfold/Rutten era dons would’ve had that second quarter, hung their heads and got done by 8 goals+. Important thing is to back it up though, persistence & consistency are king.

Great post, sums up what I am feeling too.

 

[ant555]

Please explain this

You have to live inside the small box to understand

 

[MiguelM]

May I ask why Hobbs spent nearly half the game on the bench?

Probably cos he kept getting caught and was offering very little.

 

[Yoda_]

Is what it is . Frantic last 10 minutes with both sides making plenty of mistakes.

They simply have the confidence to run and spread hard where we do not. Being a good side allows that . Then they pressure pretty well .
Too bad we didn’t have the Pies of 3 weeks ago when their defensive pressure was down.
Anyway. Two points and Elliot didn’t get a shot after the siren .

they looked so much fitter. In that last quarter we were out on our feet and they still appeared to be covering the ground well enough

 

[Happyskeret]

We just drew with the reigning premiers. Liked Durham’s marking ability as a mid. Even though Drapes is drapes he is moving to the right spots. Heppell was like his old self except much slower. I thought McGrath was exceptional today. Liked Harry Jones’s day too.