Yeah, a big surprise. Competed and used ball very well. One of our best.Forgot Mass, he was very good.
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Yeah, a big surprise. Competed and used ball very well. One of our best.Forgot Mass, he was very good.
Going to delete this one from the memory bank. Very frustrating loss to a team that looks like bottom 4-6.
But we weren't outplayed...we absolutely should have won yesterday!Yep, that's how I see it as well. Optimism is all very well, but we also need to be realistic. After showing some positive signs in 2023, I was hoping we would hit the ground running in round 1. It didn't happen. It felt as though this was our first trial game where we were still trying to work out which style of game we would adopt. First game for the season, players should be jumping out of their skins, but so many were way down on form. Unfortunately, after round 1, I'm afraid bottom 4-6 is the very best we can hope to attain. I fear what the really good sides will do to us.
That’s my overriding concern out of it. I thought Essendon were very unimpressive. Don’t expect we will play a lot of opponents who perform worse so it was a wasted opportunity for a win.Going to delete this one from the memory bank. Very frustrating loss to a team that looks like bottom 4-6.
The argument that our coaches don’t make mistakes and BF posters can’t have an opinion is tiring. It was a mistake. Blind Freddy could see it. If Maginness plays it’s to start and tag and especially on a hot day early in the year given his endurance. Merrett killed us again he’s elite. An obvious error.How on earth can a bunch of idiots* on BF see this yet our coaches thought it was a good idea has me baffled.
* Most of us aren't idiots
Footy commentary is littered with good players making stupid comments. Jono Brown is the bloke that said we rorted free agency after picking up Simpkin and Frawley, despite losing Franklin for pick 19. He may have been a good player but he is an average analyst, so spare us the "We should listen to Jono Brown!" BS!Yeah cause Jon Brown never achieved anything and has no clue about being a CHF unlike you of course . Lewis doesn’t get to enough contests and doesn’t go hard enough in the air. If he did he would be one of the best going round.
Loved the one hander that Weddle pulled in as well!Was at the game. I had a fun day. Loved Ginni, particularly in the first half. Chol’s flyer was awesone
Strange that people are bagging McKenzie. I thought he had some seriously good moments.
Feeling a bit salty about not getting McKay. He was excellent
We will be ok.
Agree that Finn as sub on a hot day was bonkers
Um... one person is trying to say if we kicked straighter it would have been better, and your argument was no it might not have been because of reasons.Except we didn’t
It’s called life son but good luck.
He’s a ripper. Must’ve had some pre-season to play yesterday despite two weeks in bed.Looks like he's dropped a few kilos. Understandable of course.
It gets mentioned a lot but he really is the heart and soul of this team.
Love watching him play.
Good summary. Completely agree.Was at the game yesterday. Obviously disappointed not to get the win. There were obviously areas where we did well other that we struggled in however it is undeniable that goal kicking accuracy was the difference between the two teams. The conditions were perfect for goal kicking. Essendon won't be that accurate for the rest of the season and we won't miss as many gettable goals. That was the ball game. To reinforce it further the stat I follow closely is marks inside 50. If you are moving the ball well as a team this number reflects that. We won that comfortably and if we kicked better, we would have won. Objectively our forward group is far superior to what we had last year - 28 scoring shots. Big tick.
Other than goal kicking the centre bounce clearances was the other obvious contributing factor. Last year we were good in this area, and I expect this issue to be addressed as with the 6-6-6 rule it is crucial to at least break even. If you don't as with the dog’s game this is where the run ons come from and good sides don't let happen very often. We really need Will Day's foot to come good. Having him in the side means the opposition can’t sit on Newk. Also, Nash had a poor day and based on last year he will also improve. Worpel hasn't missed a beat from last year. Finn is a tagger so either tag or VFL. HH would have been preferable as we fumbled alot which he doesn't do.
Importantly our defence did okay - especially with Sicily having a completely ineffective afternoon. We got alot of goals which started from defence and played a big part in the inside 50's stat.
Finally, as noted by everyone of our recruits did really well. Can’t understand anyone criticising Chol yesterday. He should have kicked 4 straight. He needs to build his tank but i think we should swap him and Lewis and both of them will be better for it.
two of our match-winner champions were tagged out of the game yesterday, while our other one has a stress fractureBigFooty Hawks members.
We haven't had the opportunity now of watching our team in finals for last 8 years.
That's a long time now.
Early days yet granted; but looking at Geelong and Dangerfield saving the day for them yesterday last minute
yet again, does anyone get the nagging feeling with our recruiting policy of last few years, we just don't have
enough superstar A-graders and too many B+ players along all the lines of field? E.g. the ilk
of Frost/Impeys/Hardwicks/Chol etc., who try their best, but no match winner champions? Should we have targeted A-grade KPFs last 2 years? I think Sam was quoted last year as saying our current list is now enough with time to get high into finals? Does anyone
find the overall list lacking champions who can clutch a win last minute, and that we have gone overboard on short midfielders/flank
players?
BigFooty Hawks members.
We haven't had the opportunity now of watching our team in finals for last 8 years.
That's a long time now.
Early days yet granted; but looking at Geelong and Dangerfield saving the day for them yesterday last minute
yet again, does anyone get the nagging feeling with our recruiting policy of last few years, we just don't have
enough superstar A-graders and too many B+ players along all the lines of field? E.g. the ilk
of Frost/Impeys/Hardwicks/Chol etc., who try their best, but no match winner champions? Should we have targeted A-grade KPFs last 2 years? I think Sam was quoted last year as saying our current list is now enough with time to get high into finals? Does anyone
find the overall list lacking champions who can clutch a win last minute, and that we have gone overboard on short midfielders/flank
players?
BigFooty Hawks members.
We haven't had the opportunity now of watching our team in finals for last 8 years.
That's a long time now.
Early days yet granted; but looking at Geelong and Dangerfield saving the day for them yesterday last minute
yet again, does anyone get the nagging feeling with our recruiting policy of last few years, we just don't have
enough superstar A-graders and too many B+ players along all the lines of field? E.g. the ilk
of Frost/Impeys/Hardwicks/Chol etc., who try their best, but no match winner champions? Should we have targeted A-grade KPFs last 2 years? I think Sam was quoted last year as saying our current list is now enough with time to get high into finals? Does anyone
find the overall list lacking champions who can clutch a win last minute, and that we have gone overboard on short midfielders/flank
players?
Good point.People are forgetting Chol is coming in off a limited pre season. Did a PCL in the VFL, and only joined the main group in early January.
One more gripe:I was quite happy with the effort until 3/4 time. Feeling chuffed. Ginni, Mass and Chol did very well. I could see a rainbow.
But the last quarter... Wow... The Druggies just walked it out of the centre every single time.
Very dispiriting.
What's silly is Sicily did nothing wrong. Opening minute of the game he wins a contest and takes an intercept mark but they incorrectly give Essendon a free kick (sicily didn't take another intercept for the game). It also should have been reversed when Gresham pushed him over.Not sure if this is extremely relevant but one thing that is starting to frustrate me is how the captain lets things get in his head. Yesterday after the push and shove and ridiculous free kick, he seemed to go into his shell. It’s almost as he’s thinking that it’s not his day today. An early turnover or niggle from an opponent can normally set him off too.
It’s a shame and I know I shouldn’t be comparing him to past legends like Derm, but those types of players tend to play better angry, whereas Sic is the opposite. It’s a harsh comparison and observation but I rate him that highly and it’s something I’ve noticed for a while.
He’s our best player, a gun of the competition and is every chance to bounce back and be best on against the Dees. He’s just so good that his down games can be very frustrating.
The umpires go out before the start of the game and practice bouncing, my guess is there were a few deadspots right in the middle so they just bounced the ball where it got the best rebound.Maybe better suited for "Questions that don't warrant their own thread" thread, but I noticed that the umpire at all centre bounces was always coming in from the members' wing to bounce the ball (I'm sure they use to alternate wings), and also they were bouncing it on the very edge of the circle close to the member wing rather than in the middle. Anyone know why? [My mate theorised that it was so they did not obscure the logo in the circle for the TV cameras]
Terrible umpiring , no other words can describe it. The Oppo now know that they can push and shove Sicily and getaway with it. Absolute stupid umpiring that's killing sic confidence in those situations. I hope he goes all BOSS next week and gets BOG!What's silly is Sicily did nothing wrong. Opening minute of the game he wins a contest and takes an intercept mark but they incorrectly give Essendon a free kick (sicily didn't take another intercept for the game). It also should have been reversed when Gresham pushed him over.
Then The free kick on McGrath his was ridiculous you cannot allow 3 players and more on their way to charge in and hit a player while the ball is dead. Bumps must be within 5 meters of the ball. Sicily just ducked down from those attacking him and McGrath bounced off, he didn't run at him we was attacked and protected himself. Umpires should have paid sicily the free on the first bump.
So in the first minute the umpires paid 6 decisions against Sicily. 1. free against (wrong call). 2. No reversal (wrong call). 3. bump 1 off ball no free (wrong call). 4. Bump 2 no free (wrong call). 5. Bump 3 no free (wrong call). 6. free against for being bumped into (wrong call).