Preview Round 11 2013- Richmond v Adelaide, Saturday, 15 June @ MCG

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Match could go either way,Crows would be smarting after last week and we are not in the same class as Sydney thats for sure.Infact its an identical situation to us last week,Got thrashed the week before[Only 29 points but it felt like 129] and an interstate trip the following week.The one thing in our favor is the week off and if its a close one that might be the thing that gets us over the line.Should be a great game,Of the interstaters i respect the Crows probally the most.

 

[Stylo]

Yes...they have Jenkins and Lynch who both tore the game apart against North!

True. So Rance to Petrenko and Chaplin to Porplyzia

 

[SA TIGER]

I'm not gloating at all. Was simply disputing your claim that he has 'lost the plot'.

Yep, were all entitled to our own opinion.
Jenkins has looked lost in recent weeks!
Case closed!!!

 

[BUTTON 92]

Yep, were all entitled to our own opinion.
Jenkins has looked lost in recent weeks!
Case closed!!!

But you are commenting on games you haven't seen him play!
I see this is going around in circles. Anyway all the best this week. Should be a close game.

 

[DrMike]

I'm not gloating at all. Was simply disputing your claim that he has 'lost the plot'.

I'm quoting you because you're the visitor, but who cares. Add something to the discussion.

 

[DrMike]

I personally haven't rated Adelaide this year at all and the injuries hurt them even more. They'll try to replicate the second to fourth quarter from our match last year while we'll try to replicate the first over four quarters instead. Result will come down to which Coach counteracts the others game plan better but I get the feeling we'll be able to run out the game better this year, as we're rested, and have a much more mature group to respond to any push they offer.

I'm about as confident of this game as I was about the Port game, Richmond by 40.

 

[SA TIGER]

But you are commenting on games you haven't seen him play!
I see this is going around in circles. Anyway all the best this week. Should be a close game.

This one can go on forever!!!

Hopefully the weather dries up and we enjoy a high scoring encounter.

 

[Morro]

Play nice guys and move on from this boring debate about some kid called Jenkins, its growing tiresome.

 

[tigs2010]

Knights was doing well up until his injury I'll give you that. Bling is never going to be AFL standard, even if he is ripping it up in the SANFL, he can't convert that form to the big stage unfortunately.

But the difference between Chaplin and Graham is that there was always going to be a spot in the 22 for Chaplin at Richmond. You were in dire need of a defender like him, whereas Graham is not even our third best tall and was always going to be in constant battle for a spot in the side.

That's the only difference between the two? LOL

 

[Heisenberg_]

I love how opposition supporters think lynch is a key forward, you clearly don't watch our games muppet. Lynch is a high half forward/midfield player, Mckernan and jenkins are our key forwards.

Compare lynchs output to other high forwards and he would be near the top of the pile.
Also Scott Thompson (north) is a better defender than any of the tigers defenders, yet lynch had 13 and 7 marks in a half on him. Let us hope the Richmond coaches are just as dumb to play a key defender on him, they will be carved up

And Jenkins has played well in all games except Sydney. Tigers fans getting ahead of themselves again, the odds for the game are very generous aswell

Yea sounds like you know your stuff
Tiges are a rabble pal, you've beaten no one, and neither have we. Will be a good match

If this is all you have to contribute on OUR board, don't bother, we are very tolerant of opposition posters if they offer something of value, but if all you have to offer is disrespectful dribble you can leave.

 

[Heisenberg_]

That's the only difference between the two? LOL

The biggest difference is that Chaplin can actually play footy.

 

[Grechy]

News that Jared Petrenko will miss 3 weeks or is this old news? I rate him.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

That's the only difference between the two? LOL

Chaplin is no superstar. Wasn't a required player at Port which says a lot. Similarly Graham is no superstar. However one has a guaranteed spot in defence because they need a player like him, whereas the other is a backup ruckman that will struggle to get game time because of his competition.

 

[ScallyWag1]

The biggest difference is that Chaplin can actually play footy.

Also Port wanted to keep Chaplin.

Whereas we probably flew Graham over to Adelaide in a private jet.

The same one we flew Richard Tambling over in a while earlier.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

The biggest difference is that Chaplin can actually play footy.

He's an average defender that was woeful before leaving Port. Has improved in a better environment surrounded by better players and coaches, but wouldn't say he's light years ahead of Graham or anything.

 

[DustinsGuns]

Chaplin is no superstar. Wasn't a required player at Port which says a lot. Similarly Graham is no superstar. However one has a guaranteed spot in defence because they need a player like him, whereas the other is a back ruckman that will struggle to get game time because of his competition.

I'm not aware of any team in history that has had 22 superstars. I am also not aware that if you're not a "superstar", you are just as good as other "non-superstars."

Your logic comparing Chaplin and Graham as similar outcomes because neither are superstar is bizarre to say the least. Does that mean I am as good as Chaplin, because I'm not a superstar?

I also love your logic re: Graham. You trade a 3rd rounder (iirc) for Graham who isn't a required player. And yet we get Chaplin, who is, for free via free agency? Go figure. Yep, you look like you won out of that one

 

[Heisenberg_]

Unless Graham has improved a hell of a lot from the player he was when he left Richmond I would say he is light years ahead.
Big Gus will play well at lower levels VFL/SANFL but will be found out big time as soon as he gets called up to AFL level.

 

[Barnzy]

He's an average defender that was woeful before leaving Port. Has improved in a better environment surrounded by better players and coaches, but wouldn't say he's light years ahead of Graham or anything.

Oh please.

Just leave and stop digging yourself a bigger hole. You're embarassing yourself. Graham is a massive spud while Chaplin is at least a solid AFL defender.

 

[Capitano_Cotch]

Chaplin has been a great addition for us this year.
Has been a solid contributor in our backline and his disposal is not nearly as bad as Port Adelaide fans made it out to be.
Must keep in mind that he was playing for a terrible team over the last 3-4 years.
That can cloud judgement somewhat.

 

[kingy46]

He's an average defender that was woeful before leaving Port. Has improved in a better environment surrounded by better players and coaches, but wouldn't say he's light years ahead of Graham or anything.

ohhhhhhhh dear......
Troy Chaplin could walk in to any AFL backline in the league and be guaranteed a spot playing on either talls or mid sized forwards.
Why?
- Rarely gets beaten in a one on one dual
- His reading of the game is sensational
- Leaves his man to help our other defenders
- Has sure hands when he has the footy (82.2% disposal efficiency)
- Makes the right decision majority of the time
- Vital to a defensive structure
- Has rarely given a free kick away, only 3 this year for a defender
- Takes Marks (averaging 6.2 this year)

Now I am aware they play different positions but for crying out loud Troy Chaplin has more ability in his pinky finger than Angus Graham could ever have!!
What a stupid comparison and probably sums up your knowledge about the two players. Back in your box now pal

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Oh please.

Just leave and stop digging yourself a bigger hole. You're embarassing yourself. Graham is a massive spud while Chaplin is at least a solid AFL defender.

I didn't expect you to agree. You're always going to think your players are better than they actually are, we're all guilty of that at some stage. I do agree he's improved in a different environment, but if you had watched him at Port you'd be aware of how woefully bad he was in periods, particularly in the latter stages of his career with Port. That's all I'm saying, no need to get agitated.

 

[tigs2010]

Chaplin is no superstar. Wasn't a required player at Port which says a lot. Similarly Graham is no superstar. However one has a guaranteed spot in defence because they need a player like him, whereas the other is a backup ruckman that will struggle to get game time because of his competition.

Lol there are a lot of players that aren't superstars. Doesn't make them all on a par. You're completely deluded if you think they are similar level.

 

[Heisenberg_]

I didn't expect you to agree. You're always going to think your players are better than they actually are, we're all guilty of that at some stage. I do agree he's improved in a different environment, but if you had watched him at Port you'd be aware of how woefully bad he was in periods, particularly in the latter stages of his career with Port. That's all I'm saying, no need to get agitated.

It's more to do with having sat through watching Angus Graham play 48 games in a Richmond jumper

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

ohhhhhhhh dear......
Troy Chaplin could walk in to any AFL backline in the league and be guaranteed a spot playing on either talls or mid sized forwards.

I'm not saying he's a terrible player, I've even said he's improved AND that he's better than Graham at present. But you can't honestly believe he'd be guaranteed a spot in any AFL team?

 

[Morro]

I didn't expect you to agree. You're always going to think your players are better than they actually are, we're all guilty of that at some stage. I do agree he's improved in a different environment, but if you had watched him at Port you'd be aware of how woefully bad he was in periods, particularly in the latter stages of his career with Port. That's all I'm saying, no need to get agitated.

We are smart enough to agree when its warranted but you sir have no idea which makes agreeing with you impossible.

That much I am sure we can all agree on