Prediction Round 13, 2024: Changes vs North Melbourne

[Dom sheed pocket]

This aged well

One guy, plus the equivalent of a fill in who wasn’t on our list 5 days ago.

So off the mark.

 

[UseR2006]

Halls issue is less about production and more about his use of ball. he seems rushed and panicy so needs to settle a bit.
Another Pre-season for him and he should be knocking down the door.

Culley should be kicking in Simmos door monday and demanding a full game in the seniors.
Hutchinson whilst very good wont jump to AFL just yet.
The rest need more time.
Brockman was good for maybe half the game. (wont play until post bye).

 

[Avalor]

Too tall and slow.

In- Kelly + Waterman + Culley + Hunt
Out- Reid + Maric + J Williams + H Edwards (No Match up)

Sheed to go to LDU.

Would love Brockman as the in and getting a few CBAs (non Reid ones)

Brockman was terrific at the CB in that last Q - directly responsible for giving us the win. Quick and direct out of the centre.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Well I don't speak for the rest of the supporter group, but personally I don't want Gaff and Sheed in our side, I don't care who is available.
Your hysterics on playing teenagers (when suggestions have included Dewar who is 20 and Culley who is 21) seem even more ridiculous when Reid is 19, Ginbey also 19 and Maric...also 19. Two of those guys have been amongst our best players this season and the other one has been a solid contributor.

Sorry to break it to you, but sheed and gaff are probably our 23rd and 24th best player.

They’re gonna get games, especially when we have some issues with availability. I don’t particularly like it either, but it is what it is.

I said about two posts back, basically every player who is ready for AFL is playing AFL. Those who aren’t, are not playing because they’re not ready.

Add Culley to list of blokes who have shown -based on their output- they’re ready to get a go in AFL team.

If Culley doesn’t play, everyone here has a legitimate grievance on selection integrity.

Not picking guys who aren’t ready just to get Sheed and Gaff out isn’t selection integrity and isn’t best for team or individual performances.

If watching Sheed and Gaff is so unbearable for you, maybe take a break and watch the WAFL instead.

You might actually learn who is putting their hand up, and who isn’t.

 

[Shuestar13]

Yes, and they didn’t play because better players were keeping them out.

Las week neither TK nor Hunt were available, so they played.

Trust me, bar Culley and Hutchison no one from the WAFl will help implement Simmo’s new game plan based on current output.

For a supporter group who has been crying out for selection integrity for years, some really seem to take issue with selection integrity if it means players they don’t want playing, indeed play.

I do understand where you are coming from, but the sort of conservatism in terms of keeping young players in the reserves until they are fully developed as such are for clubs like Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood (those who are in contention for flags/top four) for example.

We are… not.

I’m not anti Gaff or Sheed and don’t believe that every player of a certain age should be turfed out, but there has to be a reasonable balance and in our position, we should be able to afford to ‘carry’ one or two raw players a week. If that is Dewar or Johnston or Burgiel cycling in and out of the team, then we should do it. These guys need some exposure at senior level, even if a handful of games.

Happy enough for Gaff to stay in for now, but Dom probably needs a spell. Even with no TK or Harley next week, bring in Culley at the bare minimum

 

[GO EAGLES]

Culley has a great side step is strong but I never see him sprint this year

Also kicks long

 

[KERRPOW]

At the start of the season Simmo said if it was a 50/50 between young and old then youth would win out based on where the team is.

With that said how can gaff or sheed be in the side to face norf when culley has smashed it in his last 2 appearances.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I do understand where you are coming from, but the sort of conservatism in terms of keeping young players in the reserves until they are fully developed as such are for clubs like Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood (those who are in contention for flags/top four) for example.

We are… not.

I’m not anti Gaff or Sheed and don’t believe that every player of a certain age should be turfed out, but there has to be a reasonable balance and in our position, we should be able to afford to ‘carry’ one or two raw players a week. If that is Dewar or Johnston or Burgiel cycling in and out of the team, then we should do it. These guys need some exposure at senior level, even if a handful of games.

Happy enough for Gaff to stay in for now, but Dom probably needs a spell. Even with no TK or Harley next week, bring in Culley at the bare minimum

Making sure you don’t play young players before they’re ready is even more important for a team like us because we have less senior players to cover and help.

 

[stallon]

Assuming Reid gets a week, and Waterman/Kelly are back

Ins: Waterman, Kelly, Rotham, Culley
Outs: JWil, Reid, HEdwards, Trew

Trew stiff but Culley has to play after this week. If Kelly doesnt get up then Trew stays
Sheed stays as a tagger, probably sits on LDU
Petch 1 more week to hopefully find some ok form like he had before his injury. If Hutch comes in at some stage I think its at the expense of Petch.
Gaff/Chesser out when Hunt is back probably after the bye
JJ ok for now, might be out for Brockman after the bye

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

At the start of the season Simmo said if it was a 50/50 between young and old then youth would win out based on where the team is.

With that said how can gaff or sheed be in the side to face norf when culley has smashed it in his last 2 appearances.

Culley will be in, and if not, we have a huge issue.

But it’s not like he has put together a month of great footy and been kept out by credits crew.

He put together a good patch and should play.

It’s more people calling for Hall, Burgiel, Johnston or even Dewar to play.

None of them have done anything of note in the last month, and only Burgiel was good today.

 

[stallon]

At the start of the season Simmo said if it was a 50/50 between young and old then youth would win out based on where the team is.

With that said how can gaff or sheed be in the side to face norf when culley has smashed it in his last 2 appearances.

Why do you assume its a 50/50 on Sheed/Gaff? What if theyre ahead?

Culley isnt fighting for a spot with Sheed/Gaff anyway.
Cant just drop the worst player in the AFL for the best player in the WAFL, need to keep some semblance of team structure with players in correct positions.
Culley isnt coming in to play wing, and not to play Sheeds HFF/tagger role either

 

[Shuestar13]

Making sure you don’t play young players before they’re ready is even more important for a team like us because we have less senior players to cover and help.

I do get it. Getting the balance right is key.

I can’t see Sheed being omitted if no Kelly or Reid (I personally would). Agree with what you say about our list, the depth is threadbare and as it stands Sheed and Gaff are both in our top 25 players.

I certainly won’t stop watching whilst they are in or anything silly like that Still enough to enjoy most weeks, even yesterday in a slogging game, good to see Liam find form, Flynn’s first game, Harley’s second term etc.

 

[KERRPOW]

Why do you assume its a 50/50 on Sheed/Gaff? What if theyre ahead?

Culley isnt fighting for a spot with Sheed/Gaff anyway.
Cant just drop the worst player in the AFL for the best player in the WAFL, need to keep some semblance of team structure with players in correct positions.
Culley isnt coming in to play wing, and not to play Sheeds HFF/tagger role either

Anyone with a tank could play the role sheed or gaff ate doing at AFL level.

Its kinda a moot point as culley will replace a suspended reid....a like for like swap i guess.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I do get it. Getting the balance right is key.

I can’t see Sheed being omitted if no Kelly or Reid (I personally would). Agree with what you say about our list, the depth is threadbare and as it stands Sheed and Gaff are both in our top 25 players.

I certainly won’t stop watching whilst they are in or anything silly like that Still enough to enjoy most weeks, even yesterday in a slogging game, good to see Liam find form, Flynn’s first game, Harley’s second term etc.

All we ask is players get picked on their merits… at the moment that means suffering through a bit of sheed and gaff until players return from injury/suspension or young guys take a step forward.

That is what it is.

 

[stallon]

Anyone with a tank could play the role sheed or gaff ate doing at AFL level.

This isnt true at all

Its kinda a moot point as culley will replace a suspended reid....a like for like swap i guess.

Probably, Kelly and Culley for Reid and Trew sounds reasonable

 

[Astro7]

Hutchinson got 5 goals and a bunch of stats in 1st game!
How good is that?
But he wouldn't go straight into the AFL side shirley?

 

[ghostbat12]

Play Hutchinson against THE TEAM THAT DIDNT WANT HIM!

 

[Hoskin300]

We know the other blokes aren’t up to it atm moment, becuase they’re currently playing the 9th placed Demons and other than Hutchison -who’s been in our footy program for 2 days- Culley is the only one looking like he is anywhere near it.

Kids will play when they deserve it.

Your whole argument will fall over when Hutchison comes straight into the team next week or week after at latest.

This is ridiculously harsh. Plenty of the wafl crew today had good games.

 

[Hoskin300]

Culley will be in, and if not, we have a huge issue.

But it’s not like he has put together a month of great footy and been kept out by credits crew.

He put together a good patch and should play.

It’s more people calling for Hall, Burgiel, Johnston or even Dewar to play.

None of them have done anything of note in the last month, and only Burgiel was good today.

How could dewar and Johnson have done anything in the last month when they spent two games playing a quarter of footy.

Both have outperformed jones at AFL level. Therefore they should be ahead of jones. Straight forward stuff.

 

[Lazzas]

Culley will be in, and if not, we have a huge issue.

But it’s not like he has put together a month of great footy and been kept out by credits crew.

He put together a good patch and should play.

It’s more people calling for Hall, Burgiel, Johnston or even Dewar to play.

None of them have done anything of note in the last month, and only Burgiel was good today.

Yes exactly Cully should be in. It's not always the posession count on the stats sheets that selects a player. Cully has put together a body of work, playing mid against better teams than Perth. He looks in good touch. Could go straight into the centre. Or play high half forward.

 

[Schtinker]

Hutchinson gets a run for mine. Even if it's off the bench. Kid showed he can take a step up.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

This is ridiculously harsh. Plenty of the wafl crew today had good games.

Yes, but you don’t play just one good game and then get out straight in AFL team.

Culley has put together a solid month of footy coming back and has been very good since moving into midfield two weeks ago.

Best thing for Burgiel, Hall, Dewar, Rawlinson, Johnstone is to back up their games today with a couple of good performances back to back, similar to what Culley has done.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

In's: Waterman, Kelly, Culley
Outs: JWilliams, Trew, Reid (suspended)
Here's hoping these are the changes given we lose Reid.

 

[MrKennedy17]

Now WAFL form well.
Culley 30 Disposals
Hall 30 Disposals
Hutchinson 5 goals on debut

Beagles Saturday 10 am in the WET.
Saturday vs Nth Melb cellar dwellars 230pm in the WET. The bye is the following week. The Beagles also have the bye. So Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

won't be playing for 3 weeks unless he plays against North Melbourne. I say play him vs Nth. Most of the games now will be rain affected this time of the year.

INS
Waterman
Allen
Kelly
Culley
Hall
Hutchinson

Outs
Reid Suspension.
J Williams
Maric
Gaff
Sheed
J Jones.

 

[Hoskin300]

Yes, but you don’t play just one good game and then get out straight in AFL team.

Culley has put together a solid month of footy coming back and has been very good since moving into midfield two weeks ago.

Best thing for Burgiel, Hall, Dewar, Rawlinson, Johnstone is to back up their games today with a couple of good performances back to back, similar to what Culley has done.

Many have been quite good in the wafl all year.