Preview Round 19, 2024: Hawthorn v Collingwood, 20 July 2024 (Sat), 4:35pm @MCG

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Newmo89]

Based on training - Ginnivan and Massimo will play and Ward will be in the team as well.

 

[Billyc]

Ward?

Mackenzie and Morrison.

 

[CHUBBSS]

Take this with a grain of salt.

Among the maybe injured, based on today's training and match sim Ginni, Sic, Massimo looks ready to go.
Ward is also wearing Gold during the match sim, so most likely to play as well.

I don't know who will miss. I am guessing maybe Punky or Harry. It is hard to tell.


1) group huddle


View attachment 20511462) Massimo during the match sim


View attachment 20511473) Scaife in rehab. Running laps earlier then practising goal kicking later.


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4) Gunners teaching Dear how to position.
And another one on one session between Sam and the Wiz (at the background)


5) Kai in today's training

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6) 100th AFL gamer Scrimshaw

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Every picture of skaife has him looking like a giant compared to everyone

Reckon Ginny will be so fresh for this, him and Watson are about to make off like bandits

 

[HedgeFund]

I’m not getting into an argument over something that is pretty straight forward common business knowledge. The more exposure you get commercial wise, the more money the club makes.

If you can’t appreciate that it’s the broadcasters (Ch7 & Foxtel) who determine with the AFL the scheduling, and their focus is number of eyeballs on screens, I can’t help you.

If Hawthorn games rated as well as other rival clubs, then C7/Fox would push for us to play those slots.

That may well change from this season onwards, but to suggest the AFL is corrupt and are refusing to help C7/Fox put us in primetime is to ignore the same business reality you rely on for your argument.

If we rated highly, we’d get the prime time slots.

 

[TheFourPillars]

I am surprised by this but I guess u take him out they really have others struggling currently

 

[Baz_hawk]

Not sure I like the Finn to tag move. Feels like it could potentially backfire on us overall with our structure but happy to be wrong.

Interested to see what changes we end up seeing.

 

[LRobbo]

Real aggressive selection here with Maginness included, Mitchell going for the cut the head off the snake mentally.
Could be on early
Daicos knows he’ll be in for a torrid night just to gain possessions of the footy.

Finn wins this battle, we win the game

 

[Buzz Hawk]

Will be interesting if we follow the chip kick mark, deny Collingwood the ball strategy Essendon and Geelong pursued recently. It worked for them so who knows.
Maybe a bit of that but I hope we also play a more dynamic, straight down the guts, linking handballs plan.

 

[Walshawk]

Not sure I like the Finn to tag move. Feels like it could potentially backfire on us overall with our structure but happy to be wrong.

Interested to see what changes we end up seeing.

I guess if he doesn’t play this week, he never plays.

 

[Platten44]

If you can’t appreciate that it’s the broadcasters (Ch7 & Foxtel) who determine with the AFL the scheduling, and their focus is number of eyeballs on screens, I can’t help you.

If Hawthorn games rated as well as other rival clubs, then C7/Fox would push for us to play those slots.

That may well change from this season onwards, but to suggest the AFL is corrupt and are refusing to help C7/Fox put us in primetime is to ignore the same business reality you rely on for your argument.

If we rated highly, we’d get the prime time slots.

We rate highly on channel 7.
Only Collingwood games have been rating well on Friday nights lately. Saturday nights have been a disaster for channel 7.

Foxtel request us in Twilight slots as we rate well and they are trying to build those slots.

 

[pattymalone00]

 

[peetoo]

If you can’t appreciate that it’s the broadcasters (Ch7 & Foxtel) who determine with the AFL the scheduling, and their focus is number of eyeballs on screens, I can’t help you.

If Hawthorn games rated as well as other rival clubs, then C7/Fox would push for us to play those slots.

That may well change from this season onwards, but to suggest the AFL is corrupt and are refusing to help C7/Fox put us in primetime is to ignore the same business reality you rely on for your argument.

If we rated highly, we’d get the prime time slots.

It’s self replicating though. People see teams more on TV more likely to want to watch them more

 

[VandoHawk]

They've dropped Frampton. Is Howe going to play on Chol?

 

[OhhhhhCyril]

Like it. Aggressive moves. McKenzie could have had a rest weeks ago. Finn rewarded with good VFL form.

 

[hawkman]

They've dropped Frampton. Is Howe going to play on Chol?

Or is Moore actually going to try and play on an opponent?

 

[Walshawk]

They've dropped Frampton. Is Howe going to play on Chol?

Howe matches up OK. Chol doesn’t body in marking contests. Relies on his leap which suits Howe.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

RD 19 TEAM
Hawthorn v Collingwood
Saturday 20 July
MCG, 4.35pm

In: Jack Ginnivan, Finn Maginness
Out: Harry Morrison (omitted), Cam Mackenzie (managed)

B: Jarman Impey, Sam Frost

8

Sam Frost

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

191.6

3star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

191.6

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

, Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

294.5

4star

D

21.0

5star

K

15.0

5star

HB

6.0

3star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

146.8

3star

HB: Will Day, Jack Scrimshaw

14

Jack Scrimshaw

Age

25

Ht

194cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

200.7

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

167.0

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

155.6

3star

, James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

C: Finn Maginness, Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

25

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

, Connor Macdonald
HF: James Worpel, Blake Hardwick

15

Blake Hardwick

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

264.7

4star

D

13.8

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.7

3star

MG

264.7

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

4star

, Mabior Chol

18

Mabior Chol

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

F: Jack Ginnivan, Calsher Dear, Josh Ward
R: Lloyd Meek, Conor Nash

11

Conor Nash

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.8

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.1

5star

CL

0.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.2

2star

, Jai Newcombe

INT: Luke Breust, Changkuoth Jiath

9

Changkuoth Jiath

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

2star

, Josh Weddle, Nick Watson, Massimo D'Ambrosio

EMER: Jack Gunston, Harry Morrison

1

Harry Morrison

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

13.4

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

18.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

, Cam Mackenzie

 

[TheFourPillars]

Looking at that side breust or mass are the sub surely

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Looking at that side breust or mass are the sub surely

My money would be on Punky.

 

[user33]

Looking at that side breust or mass are the sub surely

Breust sub with Ginni back. Morrison a late in if Mass doesn’t get up.

 

[threesixpio]

I'm glad a lot of people on here now are starting to notice Frenchie is not as dominent and influential as alot of people on here make him out to be. I'm a massive fan of him by the way and I feel he is going to be an unbelievable player for us for many years to come.
But I've paying really close attention to his last 6 or 7 games and he constantly turns it over and kicks it to contests where we are out numbered and it comes straight back.

Spots are so tight, he could definately do with a bit of a spell in the 2's just to clean up his decion making. He needs to start hitting a better option.
I feel Morisson is a better decision maker with ball in hand and he's playing for his career, but obviously frenchie has a much higher ceiling.

Doesn’t say omitted - says managed.

I suspect we will miss his kicking and handballs out of traffic. Young and beaten up.

That said, Finn tagging Naicos works

 

[bigconornash]

N. Daicos to have 4 touches (3 kick ins).

 

[spudmaster]

Finn and Collingwood games now akin to Michael Buble and Christmas time.

 

[cs61]

On the Maginness selection:

Our recent games have been in Perth, Geelong, Tassie, and then after this game it is a trip Adelaide and then another away vs. GWS. At first look you might think we are just trying to tag Daicos, but I'm not convinced that is the sole reason. Option to play a tagging role is part of it, but also if Collingwood are struggling to run with the opposition on the spread, a fit Maginness on top of Weddle, Jiath, Nash, Moore etc is going to make it even harder for the Pies to go with us. So instead of playing a young player potentially struggling to get through a full season in his second year, we go for a guy desperate for opportunity and can run all day with absolutely elite aerobic capacity. Even if he doesn't win a lot of it he will make the Pies very accountable both ways, while MacKenzie gets a chance to re-boot and re-fresh for the run home. Unexpected, but smart management and planning.