Review Round 3, 2022 vs Adelaide

[Marmozet]

We are heading for post-2010 St Kilda and post-2015 Freo territory.

 

[PatientMental]

We are heading for post-2010 St Kilda and post-2015 Freo territory.

If only

Those clubs made 3 and 1 grand final.

We've made 0.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Happy Clappers and Us when the goal went through

 

[backtozero]

Happy Clappers and Us when the goal went through
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"It's coming baaaaackkkk!"

Me: of course it is.

 

[Byrons Firen]

Koch wanted Ken to be a 10yr coach and old mate never missed an opportunity to pick the right moment to go for an extension.

Much has been made of where we were when old mate "saved" us, sooo thought i'd google the wash up Rd23 season 2012 when we finished 14th

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Port Adelaide

22

5

1

16

1691

2144

78.87%

22

So 22pts from5 wins and a draw. 10yrs later no premiership or even a GF appearance we're looking at about the same... maybe.

Still what goes around comes around and let's face it... someone's gotta lose. Well it certainly wasn't you Ken with your bulging pockets.

 

[Duck Farmer]

lol - we lost to a side that had Frampton, Jones, Rowe, McHenry, and Helmetberg.

 

[Smartys Power]

I knew the game was done when SPP got the ball all by himself in the centre square and he just turned around and bombed it long without even looking.

Like he had the time to turn around and had the option of running it up and had a shot but no, instead just chucked it on the boot and hoped for the best.

 

[Smartys Power]

lol - we lost to a side that had Frampton, Jones, Rowe, McHenry, and Helmetberg.

And whatever a Gollant is.

 

[backtozero]

lol - we lost to a side that had Frampton, Jones, Rowe, McHenry, and Helmetberg.

Plus Murphy, a cooked O'Brien, a cooked Smith. You could go on and on.

Hinkley lost his first game to Matthew Nicks. I guess that leaves his only unbeaten run as Richardson and Eade.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

TeeKray i was wrong.

Go your hardest.

Absolute joke of a “team” atm.

If that loss doesn’t scream “the clash has lost a he players” then I don’t know what does.

 

[Harlott]

I knew the game was done when SPP got the ball all by himself in the centre square and he just turned around and bombed it long without even looking.

Like he had the time to turn around and had the option of running it up and had a shot but no, instead just chucked it on the boot and hoped for the best.

He wasn’t alone in doing that.

 

[drcollossimo]

It burns in your guts but lucky players are like goldfish and won't remember it by next Wednesday

Insert player <Name> “how do you sleep at night ?”

Player: “ On top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies”


And this friend is why they don’t particularly care

 

[TeeKray]

We are heading for post-2010 St Kilda and post-2015 Freo territory.

I don't think we're the same as that because for all of our failings we do at least have a couple of elite young players and others who will be at the very least solid, so there's something for a new coach to work with. The speed of the drop off seems comparable to those two teams though.

 

[jdeezy]

Hah, yup I’ll probably go to the Carlton game too, we always seem to have them around my birthday!

But sod the away showdown. I used to go, but their fans are pathetic.

My 80 year old grandpa is a Crows supporter and I could get ground level tickets, so I figured this would be one of his best chances to go. Honestly helps me be super indifferent about this result anyways.

Absolutely agree, their fans on the whole are so ****ing painful though. Comically dumb calls the whole game.

Also, side note I've never realised until trying to get a close park last night, but it's $23 ****ing dollars to park at the oval. The SMA are genuine greedy ****sticks. **** the lot of them

 

[jdeezy]

That's impressive dedication. I can't even watch a full match on TV (after cancelling Kayo so I had an excuse most weeks). I did get to 3QT v Brisbane though, I thought that might be something of a turning point, but alas.

Trust me, it was all booked before the season. I wouldn't be bothering if I hadn't already spent the money.

 

[TeeKray]

TeeKray i was wrong.

Go your hardest.

Absolute joke of a “team” atm.

If that loss doesn’t scream “the clash has lost a he players” then I don’t know what does.

I don't take any glee in being right. It's true that I do tend towards pessimism but looking at things from that perspective is why I have been so down on our prospects lately - I've been noticing the little red flags that have now turned into giant red flags. The attitude coming out of the club just stinks at the moment.

Unfortunately these are the ups and downs of footy. I absolutely loved the 2020 season. Our attitude that season was just spot on. I'm still absolutely shattered that we didn't make the most of the chance we created. And where we find ourselves right now just underlines that ten fold. You have to take your chances when you get them.

 

[Marmozet]

I don't take any glee in being right. It's true that I do tend towards pessimism but looking at things from that perspective is why I have been so down on our prospects lately - I've been noticing the little red flags that have now turned into giant red flags. The attitude coming out of the club just stinks at the moment.

Unfortunately these are the ups and downs of footy. I absolutely loved the 2020 season. Our attitude that season was just spot on. I'm still absolutely shattered that we didn't make the most of the chance we created. And where we find ourselves right now just underlines that ten fold. You have to take your chances when you get them.

Absolutely everything lined up for us in 2020

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Let's not **** this up!
Why?

 

[TeeKray]

If kicking to a contest while you are up by 2 points with under half a minute to go is what we train for, then the training is wrong.

If it was the 2nd quarter then we would have happilly chipped it around until the siren went, as we do every week

I haven't watched the vision back and don't plan to. I assume that's plan A but if the Crows are game aware and man up as they should (which they wouldn't in the same situation in the 2nd quarter) then plan B would be long up the line and try get a stoppage, which was achieved. We should still have closed the game out from there.

 

[Coobk001]

I don't take any glee in being right.

X2

I wish I was wrong. Theres no pleasure in being right about the reality of your own clubs ineptitude. I literally spoke at my grandfathers funeral in December, talking about how much I wish/hope/pray that I'm am wrong and my Grandpa is right about Hinkley.

Unfortunately it is now beyond doubt that we will not win a flag with Hinkley. So history will show we were sadly right, but it's not something that is in any way satisfying, it's depressing and devastating.

 

[tribey]

Port Adelaide captain Tom Jonas reckons it's a good thing most of his AFL teammates have memories like a goldfish.
"We're not the sharpest tools in the shed, us footballers." Jonas told reporters on Wednesday.
"We like to get out there and chase the footy and have a bit of fun ... and when it comes to game time, you just go about your business.
"You could say at times we have the memory of a goldfish."

I say they move on pretty quickly...I stand by my belief that Jonas should have been relieved of his captaincy for this very quote alone.

Coupled with Hinkley’s comments that “Jonas is a good person”, I’m not sure our leadership positions are filled with the best possible candidates.

Give me a ruthless arseh*le like Luke Hodge any day.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

With 38 seconds to go up by 2 points anything but kick to a contest on the wing. Surely holding possession would of been priority. Basics absolute basics if you can't see that your deluded

Lets assume that Adelaide were smart enough to play man on man for the last 45 seconds after Houston had taken the mark and was slowly walking back to take his kick.

In fact here is the scene. Everyone is close to chip it to them and was covered with 46 seconds to go. Rachele was zoning between of our 2 players, Looks like Wines near the boundary and Amon near the T5G sign and a crows player in green boots was sprinting in and had him covered within the next second.

There were no short options. Pretty sure that is TJ to the right of screen and I guess he could have sprinted off towards their goal and boundary, Houston probably would have hit him, but the next kick would have been the issues as all players had pushed over to the camera side of the ground. I would not have trusted TJ with the next kick.

On this shot there are 9 Port players and 10 crows players. The rest are more than 40m from where Houston is standing





Houston spends the next 4 or 5 seconds assessing his options which weren't many and he was called to play on

When he kicks, its 8 Port players vs 9 crows in screen and only the bottom right hand corner pair of players in the above shot have moved down the wing to be completely out of this shot.

That last play achieved the desired result - we got a stoppage on the wing with 25 seconds to go. The problem was what happened after that.

Houston's kick should have been a bit better and been very close to the line rather than 15m in from it, but as you say it got the desire result of a stoppage.




If you count the players to the right of Mead who has the green boots on and he and his player was part of the 8 v 9 previous shot, then including the port and crows player inside the square near the centre of the ground and weren't part of the 8 v 9 its 9 port v 8 crows players - so there must be 1 pair of players closer to Port's goal.

This is the bail out kick we do to Charlie, but Charlie wasn't there.

I will start calling this the Dixon non-Dixons play, seeing we do it so often this year.

In the pack it was 5 v 4. Drew front and centre with his opponent. ROB with Lycett obscured and Marshall and Dodee and a step behind them a crowie and Georgiades and Ollie.






Ok so we kill the ball and 25 seconds to go.

Marshall has sprinted back towards their goal and is top left hand corner of the picture below and you can see just his white shorts and a leg. Mayes is the 18th player ( I accounted for 17 above) sprinting from the forward line to defence and is in the corner of the centre square just to the right of the graphics. We have 14 players in this shot they have 12.

Close to the ball up its 6 v 5 and Mead doesn't have an opponent.

In 2020 and 2021, we had Voss at ground level barking orders to the players, and he would have been instructing them what to do. As I wrote in middle of 2020 season, Voss seemed to find his niche at ground level, talking to players, instructing them, encouraging them, barking orders etc.

We don't have the brightest group of players, they need all the help they can get.








Below is one of the most stupid pieces of play I have seen in the last decade from a Port player. And it has to be pretty special to get that rating.

I have called Houston a flakey flanker and Matt Rendell put him in a group of 12 players in our best 22 when he summed up our 2021 season last September and said they are good when they have the ball in their hand but they aren't hard enough and are too flakey.

With 20 seconds to go Houston stupidly decides to soccer the ball blindly in as if we need a hail mary play to win the game. WTF possessed him to do such a stupid play??

Is he so soft he isn't prepared to take a hit to the body? Did he think he could boot it 70m?

All he had to do was bend over take a hit to the body, take a tackle and it would have resulted in a ball up as 2 or 3 players from both sides would have been in a pile up and it would have wiped 10 seconds off the clock.

Didn't he know everyone had cleared out of our forward line?? If he didn't, why did he guess we still had players there?? he wouldn't have seen anyone there.

We have a lot of dumb players. Look at the 2004 premiership side and how many players went on to be AFL coaches, state league coaches and long term assistant AFL coaches.

Apart from Robbie Gray being a forwards coach, I can't imagine any of our players being a coach given the way they play.

Our next coach has to be like Choco and Clarko, have a professional teaching background or has a proven track record of teaching players and educating them so they understand the game and make good decisions for 100% of the game, not just when the going is easy. Choco and Clarko have produced many coaches. Hinkley will produce SFA.

We need to get rid of a lot of no hopers for our club to progress to where we want it to end up.

 

[Interstater]

Lets assume that Adelaide were smart enough to play man on man for the last 45 seconds after Houston had taken the mark and was slowly walking back to take his kick.

In fact here is the scene. Everyone is close to chip it to them and was covered with 46 seconds to go. Rachele was zoning between of our 2 players, Looks like Wines near the boundary and Amon near the T5G sign and a crows player in green boots was sprinting in and had him covered within the next second.

There were no short options. Pretty sure that is TJ to the right of screen and I guess he could have sprinted off towards their goal and boundary, Houston probably would have hit him, but the next kick would have been the issues as all players had pushed over to the camera side of the ground. I would not have trusted TJ with the next kick.

On this shot there are 9 Port players and 10 crows players. The rest are more than 40m from where Houston is standing


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Houston spends the next 4 or 5 seconds assessing his options which weren't many and he was called to play on

When he kicks, its 8 Port players vs 9 crows in screen and only the bottom right hand corner pair of players in the above shot have moved down the wing to be completely out of this shot.


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Houston's kick should have been a bit better and been very close to the line rather than 15m in from it, but as you say it got the desire result of a stoppage.


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If you count the players to the right of Mead who has the green boots on and he and his player was part of the 8 v 9 previous shot, then including the port and crows player inside the square near the centre of the ground and weren't part of the 8 v 9 its 9 port v 8 crows players - so there must be 1 pair of players closer to Port's goal.

This is the bail out kick we do to Charlie, but Charlie wasn't there.

I will start calling this the Dixon non-Dixons play, seeing we do it so often this year.

In the pack it was 5 v 4. Drew front and centre with his opponent. ROB with Lycett obscured and Marshall and Dodee and a step behind them a crowie and Georgiades and Ollie.


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Ok so we kill the ball and 25 seconds to go.

Marshall has sprinted back towards their goal and is top left hand corner of the picture below and you can see just his white shorts and a leg. Mayes is the 18th player ( I accounted for 17 above) sprinting from the forward line to defence and is in the corner of the centre square just to the right of the graphics. We have 14 players in this shot they have 12.

Close to the ball up its 6 v 5 and Mead doesn't have an opponent.

In 2020 and 2021, we had Voss at ground level barking orders to the players, and he would have been instructing them what to do. As I wrote in middle of 2020 season, Voss seemed to find his niche at ground level, talking to players, instructing them, encouraging them, barking orders etc.

We don't have the brightest group of players, they need all the help they can get.




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Below is one of the most stupid pieces of play I have seen in the last decade from a Port player. And it has to be pretty special to get that rating.

I have called Houston a flakey flanker and Matt Rendell put him in a group of 12 players in our best 22 when he summed up our 2021 season last September and said they are good when they have the ball in their hand but they aren't hard enough and are too flakey.

With 20 seconds to go Houston stupidly decides to soccer the ball blindly in as if we need a hail mary play to win the game. WTF possessed him to do such a stupid play??

Is he so soft he isn't prepared to take a hit to the body? Did he think he could boot it 70m?

All he had to do was bend over take a hit to the body, take a tackle and it would have resulted in a ball up as 2 or 3 players from both sides would have been in a pile up and it would have wiped 10 seconds off the clock.

Didn't he know everyone had cleared out of our forward line?? If he didn't, why did he guess we still had players there??

We have a lot of dumb players. Look at the 2004 premiership side and how many players went on to be AFL coaches, state league coaches and long term assistant AFL coaches.

Apart from Robbie Gray being a forwards coach, I can't imagine any of our players being a coach given the way they play.

Our next coach has to be like Choco and Clarko, have a professional teaching background or has a proven track record of teaching players and educating them so they understand the game and make good decisions for 100% of the game, not just when the going is easy. Choco and Clarko have produced many coaches. Hinkley will produce SFA.

We need to get rid of a lot of no hopers for our club to progress to where we want it to end up.




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Last two mins: Crows pull off miracle after Boak's costly miss

Enjoy the thrilling final moments between the Crows and Power at Adelaide Oval

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[RussellEbertHandball]

Last two mins: Crows pull off miracle after Boak's costly miss

Enjoy the thrilling final moments between the Crows and Power at Adelaide Oval

www.afl.com.au

That's where I took those screen shots from.

 

[Interstater]

That's where I took those screen shots from.

Yeh I just wanted to map the video to your post for when we look back later in the year.

I hadn't noticed the Houston kick off that ground, that really was a shocker.