Review Round 3, 2022 vs Adelaide

[RussellEbertHandball]

Yeh I just wanted to map the video to your post for when we look back later in the year.

I hadn't noticed the Houston kick off that ground, that really was a shocker.

I noticed it at the time and yelled out WTF are you doing, and as soon as Billy picked it up and hit a target I thought ****, we will lose.

It would take too long, and not sure if we can still access them, but I'd like to put up a screenshot of all 4 x (19+24+3) = 184 quarters with 60 seconds to go since 2020, and see what the total score is that we let the oppo score compared to our score in that time.

We are horrendous in the last 60 seconds, doing dumb things that allow the oppo to score, or just as worse, give them the potential to score and luckily for us, they stuff up.

 

[Expat power]

Happy Clappers and Us when the goal went through
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Was that really your reaction? I don't know how you do it. I was gutted when that goal went through and I'll remain gutted for the rest of the week until we get annihilated by Melbourne and I'm completely demoralised. I've supported Port since I was 5, my whole family supports them, my parents went the first game in Melbourne, we stayed through the tarps, I've been to the games in China. I've been around since the Fos/John Cahill days, wore a number 5 for Tim Evans - so definitely not a happy clapper. Do you think your hatred for Hinkley has made you lose all objectivity? And this is a genuine question not trying to be a smart arse but if that was your reaction does that mean you really can't call yourself a Port supporter anymore?

 

[philthy05]

I knew the game was done when SPP got the ball all by himself in the centre square and he just turned around and bombed it long without even looking.

Like he had the time to turn around and had the option of running it up and had a shot but no, instead just chucked it on the boot and hoped for the best.

We are the worst possible club to develop Spp.

If his manager had two brain cells he would have gotten him out of here a while ago.

Spp is a physical and athletic beast but he is as dumb as a rock when it comes to football, and we coach players to play dumb football.

If he went to a club that from the start drilled it into him to lower his eyes maybe he does, even just a little.

Right now he’s a guy who can impact a game in moments but also negatively impact a game in moments, and you never know which.

Between that and being a constant threat to injuring his own players ffs.

 

[broombroom9]

Why was Hinkley laughing on the bench before Dawson took the kick?

A Scott / Clarko typo would have been on the verge of throttling someone.

This is what we all want. Someone who cares about winning. Not this guy, he’s seriously taking the piss

 

[Jojay]

Ken Hinkley accused of 'shameful' act before rivals' game-winning goal

Port Adelaide fans are calling for Ken Hinkley's sacking after their last-gasp loss to the Crows. Read more here.

au.sports.yahoo.com

 

[Duck Farmer]

We are horrendous in the last 60 seconds, doing dumb things that allow the oppo to score, or just as worse, give them the potential to score and luckily for us, they stuff up.

Yeah, it was only McHenry's epic shitness that saved us from after the siren goals in a couple of other quarters. We weren't so lucky with Dawson who is quality.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Yeah, it was only McHenry's epic shitness that saved us from after the siren goals in a couple of other quarters. We weren't so lucky with Dawson who is quality.

Haha McHenry's shot on goal in the 3rd was what I was thinking of when I wrote about this. Forgot about the earlier quarter one he stuffed up, but it could have been costly. I have come to fear the last minute of quarters.

 

[TeeKray]

We're just mentally weak and we panic. Someone like Houston is a classic example. During a game he's cool as a cucumber, rarely makes an error. Then he goes and does something as stupid as that ridiculous kick off the ground with 20 seconds to play and it costs us the game.

I mean, look at the kick after the siren. I know Robbie kicked one for us a couple of years ago, but we got seriously lucky that it was him that day. Who else in our team do you think would stand up to that pressure? They can't even kick important goals when there's still a few minutes to play! And yet, Shuey then McGovern and now Dawson have all calmly stepped up to the plate and delivered in that situation - and that's against us alone.

It all comes back to culture and our inability to deliver on expectation, which is now a problem decades in the making. There's no quick fix unfortunately.

 

[Capital Power]

We're just mentally weak and we panic. Someone like Houston is a classic example. During a game he's cool as a cucumber, rarely makes an error. Then he goes and does something as stupid as that ridiculous kick off the ground with 20 seconds to play and it costs us the game.

I mean, look at the kick after the siren. I know Robbie kicked one for us a couple of years ago, but we got seriously lucky that it was him that day. Who else in our team do you think would stand up to that pressure? They can't even kick important goals when there's still a few minutes to play! And yet, Shuey then McGovern and now Dawson have all calmly stepped up to the plate and delivered in that situation - and that's against us alone.

It all comes back to culture and our inability to deliver on expectation, which is now a problem decades in the making. There's no quick fix unfortunately.

It would have to be in large part due to the gradual and disingenuous watering down of expectations over recent years. We somehow went from "We exist to win premierships" to the pass mark of making finals, or finishing top 4, or winning H&A games or whatever meaningless metric is deemed to be actually achievable at the time. Watch this season's turn from making the GF, to winning more games than we lose in the second half of the season or some such.

Then that can be used for backpatting all round and unjustified contract extensions. We've seen this movie before.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I just re watched the last two minutes.

It’s staggering to think we lost from there.

Although I said that 4 games ago in a home prelim.

And how many times before that…….

 

[Harlott]

We're just mentally weak and we panic. Someone like Houston is a classic example. During a game he's cool as a cucumber, rarely makes an error. Then he goes and does something as stupid as that ridiculous kick off the ground with 20 seconds to play and it costs us the game.

I mean, look at the kick after the siren. I know Robbie kicked one for us a couple of years ago, but we got seriously lucky that it was him that day. Who else in our team do you think would stand up to that pressure? They can't even kick important goals when there's still a few minutes to play! And yet, Shuey then McGovern and now Dawson have all calmly stepped up to the plate and delivered in that situation - and that's against us alone.

It all comes back to culture and our inability to deliver on expectation, which is now a problem decades in the making. There's no quick fix unfortunately.

It’s not only at the pointy end of games, it’s also when you can sense a momentum shift against us. There were a couple of panic kicks forward in the 3rd qtr (one by Burton and I can’t remember who the other one was) one after the other that went straight to a crows player who were by themselves. Both the kicks weren’t under any physical pressure. More confirmation we don’t have players with composure at critical moments to suggest we could win a premiership.

 

[Sleezy]

Coupled with Hinkley’s comments that “Jonas is a good person”, I’m not sure our leadership positions are filled with the best possible candidates.

Give me a ruthless a-hole like Luke Hodge any day.

Reading between the lines of Caro's article today, ruthless Hodgey is one of the reasons Cyril Rioli retired at 28, and will never return to the club. I'd hope we can walk the line between both extremes there.

 

[jdeezy]

It would have to be in large part due to the gradual and disingenuous watering down of expectations over recent years. We somehow went from "We exist to win premierships" to the pass mark of making finals, or finishing top 4, or winning H&A games or whatever meaningless metric is deemed to be actually achievable at the time. Watch this season's turn from making the GF, to winning more games than we lose in the second half of the season or some such.

Then that can be used for backpatting all round and unjustified contract extensions. We've seen this movie before.

What worries me is we are maybe one significant injury away from being able to play the "what more can Ken do, injuries derailed this season" card. You can just see the "kids" getting trotted out - and when I say kids, I mean Mayes outside best 22 types, not Hayes untried future types and used to justify Hinkley still having his job in 2023. It's predictable.

 

[Del165198]

We just lost to a team with the following players:

• Schoenberg
• crouch
• himmelberg
• hinge
• gollant
• Frampton
• Rowe
• McHenry
• Murphy
• cook
• Fogarty
• Jones

There's maybe 1 or 2 in that list above SANFL level. They all played last night and we lost with a team with the reigning brownlow medallist in the middle.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Jojay]

We just lost to a team with the following players:

• Schoenberg
• crouch
• himmelberg
• hinge
• gollant
• Frampton
• Rowe
• McHenry
• Murphy
• cook
• Fogarty
• Jones

There's maybe 1 or 2 in that list above SANFL level. They all played last night and we lost with a team with the reigning brownlow medallist in the middle.

It's literally mind boggling. How we could have lost to that bunch of misfits is almost incomprehensible. He has lost the playing group - as plain as the nose on your face.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

No idea why Hitchcock has a blue tick

 

[Jojay]

No idea why Hitchcock has a blue tick

Haha I literally was just thinking the exact same thing!

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

We just lost to a team with the following players:

• Schoenberg
• crouch
• himmelberg
• hinge
• gollant
• Frampton
• Rowe
• McHenry
• Murphy
• cook
• Fogarty
• Jones

There's maybe 1 or 2 in that list above SANFL level. They all played last night and we lost with a team with the reigning brownlow medallist in the middle.

Schoenberg is a player but yeah the rest of those could have been dug up and dusted off an hour before the game and painted in tricolour.

 

[JimmyBC]

Schoenberg is a player but yeah the rest of those could have been dug up and dusted off an hour before the game and painted in tricolour.

The rest read like a list of covid top ups.

 

[tribey]

Poor Ken.

 

[PowerLil]

Poor Ken.

Are you ok Ken?

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Poor Ken.

Poor, Ken.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

It’s not only at the pointy end of games, it’s also when you can sense a momentum shift against us. There were a couple of panic kicks forward in the 3rd qtr (one by Burton and I can’t remember who the other one was) one after the other that went straight to a crows player who were by themselves. Both the kicks weren’t under any physical pressure. More confirmation we don’t have players with composure at critical moments to suggest we could win a premiership.

Clarko used to train his teams for exactly these situations with intensity

Ken thinks you just need to keep getting there and hope you get lucky.

 

[tribey]

Are you ok Ken?

He tries his best, then has to deal with humidity, then a few injuries, and now scrutiny from the fans.

It’s not right.