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Opinion Round 6 Changes vs. Essendon.
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Constructive criticism is fine, but that is not what has been happening. How is "stick a fork in him, he's done" striving for improvement? If criticism is based on one memorable gaff, or by looking at the basic stats, such as disposals, goals or tackles without considering what the opponent managed, it is shallow and essentially useless.
If you are going to use stats, use the relevant ones that a player is in the team for: clearances, inside 50s, metres gained, disposal efficiency, tackles, the key statistics of their opponent...
Every week, a new player is chosen to be dropped and to be replaced by a favourite, usually an untried player, or one working his way back to fitness. The reality is that no player is perfect, and no player getting a game in our team is anywhere near useless. That gives us plenty of scope for improvement without just calling for a player to be dropped.
Before the Melbourne game, Lyon pointed us to the kind of criticism that would be useful:
- We're a bit more mobile with a bit more distribution down back without Dawson and Silvagni.
- Work without the ball could be stonger. The better teams at the minute are getting it back off the opposition a bit more frequently than we are so that's a focus today to stop the ball in the midfield and create some more scoring opportunities.
- We're moving the ball quite well out of stoppages but it's carrying other elements of our game.
- We've changed Pav's role. Akin to Roughie, he's more stay at home, running a lot less, a lot fresher and he's got his legs back in his kicking.
(Thanks to Mr. Peabody)
Stupid is as stupid does.
So you are criticising me for being over critical of those who are too critical of our players?
And the Dockerland quote? Relevant how? Are you going to censor me?
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Its a long season and if Danyle can keep it up till the end then it will be win win.
But towards the end of last season I was calling him Penny because he was 50/50 and very inconsistent.
But towards the end of last season I was calling him Penny because he was 50/50 and very inconsistent.
What about the two flakey chips from Capt Pav which resulted in turnovers; One left foot and one right.
Not to mention he did NOTHING after half time.
The fact that you still think its "too critical" and therefore think acting like an ass is an appropriate response shows me how poor you are at accepting differing opinions. Hence the Docklerand quote.
Just because we're 5-0 doesn't mean our coaching staff and selection committee are infallible, Ross himself is always talking about the need for constant improvement no matter how well you're travelling.
Just because we're 5-0 doesn't mean our coaching staff and selection committee are infallible, Ross himself is always talking about the need for constant improvement no matter how well you're travelling.
His grand final one still haunts me.
Reg has been strangely quiet on Danyle since the man has found some form 
Sigh. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
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Yeah, I agree. We went pretty well without Son Son and Pav on the weekend. Those 20 blokes should be good enough to get the job done again, no need to worry about bringing in another two guys
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I see where you're coming from. Every week, this thread is chocked full of reactionary, poorly thought out and often just plain ignorant posts. Those ones are pretty easy to ignore though. Change for the sake of change is stupid.
However, I think the coaching staff are continually looking to improve the team, even when we are winning. Those changes more commonly come in the form of structural tweaks to the gameplan that don't require personel changes. But, personel changes surely must be a part of the coaching staff's plan to continually improve the team.
Whilst it's silly to suggest that a young inexperienced cub would come in for Duffield or Sutcliffe or Suban, I am one of the many supporters who sees Tendai Mzungu as a significantly better footballer than Matt deBoer. Sure, they've played different roles, but IMO Tendai could play any role that deboer has played and probably do it better whilst offering more flexibility. Tendai is very strong defensively and with the ball in hand he is miles ahead of deBoer. I can see why Tendai would miss out if he was lacking match fitness, but if he's lacking match fitness then surely he'd be playing for Peel.
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IN: Mzungu
OUT: deBoer
Please Ross, it's time.
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People have been leveling the same criticism at De Boer for years. It's you that has the memory of a goldfish.
He wasn't best 22 last year and he still isn't this year. That's why the club cut his pay and stopped picking him last year.
The problem here is Lyon's unwillingness to change the team, even when better players (which Mzungu undoubtedly is) become available.
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Thanks for the measured response.
I also miss Mzungu and think he will be a worthwhile addition to the team.
But I don't agree that Tendai could play any role better than De Boer. De Boer had a few clumsy tackles on the weekend, but this is unusual: 5 frees against yesterday, and 3 against for the four rounds before. He has made 28 tackles this season so far, only less than Mundy (31) and Mayne (29). This is in 23 quarters rather than 30.
Mzungu averaged 3.1 tackles a game last year. Obviously he is a better kick, and a better runner than de Boer, but that may not be the role Lyon wants for him. De Boer is a harder player and provides a more physical presence than Mzungu (although Le Cras might not agree).
Bottom line, I look forward to seeing Tendai tearing it up on the wing. It will happen. But I the meantime Matty de Boer has until round 5 performed well. We will see if his poor tackling in the latest round will lead to him being dropped.
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Lyon backs his players. And his players back him. If the player performs, he keeps in the team. Mzungu isn't A class, so doesn't automatically come in.
It's not that hard to understand.
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68 point win.
5-0 record.
If no injuries or suspensions, no change. Jesus people!
If Pav out then probably Duffy in.
If Walters out probably Croz in.
Would love Mzungu but is he making a clear case to displace someone from existing 22?
5-0 record.
If no injuries or suspensions, no change. Jesus people!
If Pav out then probably Duffy in.
If Walters out probably Croz in.
Would love Mzungu but is he making a clear case to displace someone from existing 22?
I really miss Bushie in these threads
This feels like a remnant slur from the St Kilda days. From what I have seen I think Lyon's player management skills are high end. Sure he may not pick the player(s) others think he should, but he is clearly results orientated in terms of team selection. Pretty happy about that myself.
It is also going to be a long season and I cannot see anything wrong with allowing the fringe guys who are performing to keep putting their case forward, and having Mzungu looking over the shoulder is about the best motivation Lyon could have engineered.
Exactly. He may as well have not even been out there.
Pav won't play. It'd be irresponsible of the club to let him.
Crozier for Pav
Other changes: Macca or Jonno may need a week after playing waaaay too much game time with our no bench, so A Pearce may get a run.
Crozier for Pav
Other changes: Macca or Jonno may need a week after playing waaaay too much game time with our no bench, so A Pearce may get a run.
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