Preview Round 9, 2023: Adelaide v St.Kilda - Adelaide Oval, Sunday 14th May, 1:10PM AEST *SINCLAIR 150TH*

[gringo2011]

Does Roma definitely play?
I know Ross said he'll be fine but that was in a presser directly after the game.
A rolled ankle aint nothing.

I didn't like the look of him or Gresham. Rowan's foot looked like it bent really badly as well as the ankle. I did a lot of ankles in my day and the bones and ligaments in the foot are often worse than the ankle, that movement didn't look pretty. Gresham had ice on his calf, reckon his injury history would make them cautious.

 

[Premium]

I think Tim worked well under Richo as a key forward target playing deep, but to me he seemed to lose effectiveness when King came along in the same forward line, and is not as agile playing up the ground. I would be a bit surprised to see King come straight back considering the amount of footy he has missed- maybe a run at Sandy first, and if his body holds up, then he will come back in. It will be an interesting juggle between Membrey, Caminiti and Sharman for positions.

He would know he has to start to impact games or his spot is in trouble , like everyone who isn't living up to expectations - but they will give him every chance to get his s/it together.
Billings is the same , with the amount of small forwards we have and wingmen performing he will really need to show his best to be brought back into the 22.
Same goes with Jones ,McKenzie and Coffield when he gets back on the park.
Really the team I hope will be firing on all cylinders half way through the season if we can get our best 22 on the park - whoever the best 22 are.
This against the Crows will be a very good test for the team - lose against the Crows and Lyon could well swing the axe.

 

[Premium]

Does Roma definitely play?
I know Ross said he'll be fine but that was in a presser directly after the game.
A rolled ankle aint nothing.

Came back out and had a run around the boundary and would of come back on they say if he was needed - but decided to not risk him - so isn't as bad as what you think.

 

[Premium]

I didn't like the look of him or Gresham. Rowan's foot looked like it bent really badly as well as the ankle. I did a lot of ankles in my day and the bones and ligaments in the foot are often worse than the ankle, that movement didn't look pretty. Gresham had ice on his calf, reckon his injury history would make them cautious.

Marshall is a must play for us , Gresham - the way he is playing I wouldn't care if he is rested for Windhager or Bytel , they will most probably give a better 4 quarter effort and the way Steele is playing bringing in one of them might help us in the midfield.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Gresh had ice on the front of his shin just below the knee i thought?

 

[sammm]

Happy with Sharmans progress
Bright future with the club is obvious

hope so, as many including I thought he would be be let go at seasons end.

 

[gringo2011]

Gresh had ice on the front of his shin just below the knee i thought?

That sounds better than a calf. I couldn't tell from TV.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

I thought they said Gresh copped a knock to the knee he had the pcl issue with.

 

[True Believer]

I thought they said Gresh copped a knock to the knee he had the pcl issue with.

Correct.......

 

[CaptainRisky]

That sounds better than a calf. I couldn't tell from TV.

From Tv you could clearly see the ice pack was at the front of his leg not the back

 

[sammm]

Walker: Saints clash one Crows “need to win”

Adelaide faces St Kilda on Sunday afternoon

www.afc.com.au

 

[gringo2011]

From Tv you could clearly see the ice pack was at the front of his leg not the back

depends on how many beers you'd had to cope with the low standards of footy.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Walker: Saints clash one Crows “need to win”

Adelaide faces St Kilda on Sunday afternoon

www.afc.com.au

I fear Tex might be right, unless we take our absolute A game to SA we could be in trouble. What SEN printed yesterday about teams letting us off the hook with inaccurate kicking is right, but we have had games where we have kicked poorly also. We will need a huge lift from our midfielders they have been pretty poor for the past few weeks and have put pressure on our defence. Then hopefully our forward line clicks and kick a winning score. If we can beat the Crows over there we will deserve a top 4 spot, otherwise?

“That’s a watch”: The peculiar stat that suggests luck has helped Saints in 2023

“A little bit of luck on the Saints’ side and that’s clearly the most of any side.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[Veer Right]

I fear Tex might be right, unless we take our absolute A game to SA we could be in trouble. What SEN printed yesterday about teams letting us off the hook with inaccurate kicking is right, but we have had games where we have kicked poorly also. We will need a huge lift from our midfielders they have been pretty poor for the past few weeks and have put pressure on our defence. Then hopefully our forward line clicks and kick a winning score. If we can beat the Crows over there we will deserve a top 4 spot, otherwise?

“That’s a watch”: The peculiar stat that suggests luck has helped Saints in 2023

“A little bit of luck on the Saints’ side and that’s clearly the most of any side.”

www.sen.com.au

It wouldn't surprise me if the umpires have handed our opposition the most forward 50 frees of any team. So i think that more then balances things out.

Probably half the 110 points came in the Carlton game when the umpires tried their best to hand them the win.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Interesting odds for this game. Despite us having beaten them the last two times over there and being 3rd on the ladder, with a % of 137, and Adelaide being 10th, with a % of 108, we’re $2.25, and they’re $1.65.

I’m pretty confident for this one, and one of the reasons is that despite still almost doubling Norths score last week, we were still well short of our best, and when you look at the list of guys who played well below their best, they have a lot in common:

Membrey
Steele
Ross
Crouch
Gresham
Wood

They’re all the older guys, who know it’s a long season and that we have much bigger fish to fry than North.

Combine that with our coaching group using it as a game to experiment with the midfield possibly giving them the sense that it was a glorified practice match, and you can see why they might not have gone full throttle in that one. Even Sincs only had the 23 touches.

I reckon Ross will give them a bit of a rev-up this week and they’ll come out breathing fire this week and with most of them being in the midfield, that would augur especially well for our chances.

 

[gringo2011]

I fear Tex might be right, unless we take our absolute A game to SA we could be in trouble. What SEN printed yesterday about teams letting us off the hook with inaccurate kicking is right, but we have had games where we have kicked poorly also. We will need a huge lift from our midfielders they have been pretty poor for the past few weeks and have put pressure on our defence. Then hopefully our forward line clicks and kick a winning score. If we can beat the Crows over there we will deserve a top 4 spot, otherwise?

“That’s a watch”: The peculiar stat that suggests luck has helped Saints in 2023

“A little bit of luck on the Saints’ side and that’s clearly the most of any side.”

www.sen.com.au

It's a bit of bullshit too though. I've said it before, we'll let other sides take plenty of shots on us but they will be in low percentage ranges. Clubs did it to us last year they leave holes for you to get sucked in to having a shot from. If it's missing from 45m out on a difficult angle it's not really a surprise, we won games last year when we over achieved with our accuracy. Lost ones that we didn't. Luck is funny how it follows hard work and strategy.

 

[The Boar]

Interesting odds for this game. Despite us having beaten them the last two times over there and being 3rd on the ladder, with a % of 137, and Adelaide being 10th, with a % of 108, we’re $2.25, and they’re $1.65.

I’m pretty confident for this one, and one of the reasons is that despite still almost doubling Norths score last week, we were still well short of our best, and when you look at the list of guys who played well below their best, they have a lot in common:

Membrey
Steele
Ross
Crouch
Gresham
Wood

They’re all the older guys, who know it’s a long season and that we have much bigger fish to fry than North.

Combine that with our coaching group using it as a game to experiment with the midfield possibly giving them the sense that it was a glorified practice match, and you can see why they might not have gone full throttle in that one. Even Sincs only had the 23 touches.

I reckon Ross will give them a bit of a rev-up this week and they’ll come out breathing fire this week and with most of them being in the midfield, that would augur especially well for our chances.

Love the enthusiasm but our form is terrible right now. If we can bring the Round 1-5 effort/system/performance, we win.

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[gringo2011]

It wouldn't surprise me if the umpires have handed our opposition the most forward 50 frees of any team. So i think that more then balances things out.

Probably half the 110 points came in the Carlton game when the umpires tried their best to hand them the win.

And it's also that when they take kicks they are under pressure or perceived pressure or have run their arses off trying to create opportunity. Stats are great but they can show what you want a bit. Luck holds for a couple of games maybe but after a while it's a pattern that shows something more than chance.

Collingwood always walk a step over every line when there is a mark before standing, the umpire sets them back but they often don't do it quickly and opposition players choose to hand-ball off rather than wait. It's a strategy that manipulates the way others use the ball against them and it would throw up a statistical anomaly.

 

[The_Steadier]

Cordy to return to the team this week.

Mascot must have called in sick?

 

[gringo2011]

Interesting odds for this game. Despite us having beaten them the last two times over there and being 3rd on the ladder, with a % of 137, and Adelaide being 10th, with a % of 108, we’re $2.25, and they’re $1.65.

I’m pretty confident for this one, and one of the reasons is that despite still almost doubling Norths score last week, we were still well short of our best, and when you look at the list of guys who played well below their best, they have a lot in common:

Membrey
Steele
Ross
Crouch
Gresham
Wood

They’re all the older guys, who know it’s a long season and that we have much bigger fish to fry than North.

Combine that with our coaching group using it as a game to experiment with the midfield possibly giving them the sense that it was a glorified practice match, and you can see why they might not have gone full throttle in that one. Even Sincs only had the 23 touches.

I reckon Ross will give them a bit of a rev-up this week and they’ll come out breathing fire this week and with most of them being in the midfield, that would augur especially well for our chances.

Yeah, they looked like they weren't playing a very engaged brand of footy. We have a lot of improvement left. That said we can't afford to come with a soft attitude against good opposition and flirting with form is dangerous. I expect us to come at this with a lot of focus on them. Lyon will be working to unravel them and he is in his element taking down a good side.

 

[TheNewEnsign]

It's a bit of bullshit too though. I've said it before, we'll let other sides take plenty of shots on us but they will be in low percentage ranges. Clubs did it to us last year they leave holes for you to get sucked in to having a shot from. If it's missing from 45m out on a difficult angle it's not really a surprise, we won games last year when we over achieved with our accuracy. Lost ones that we didn't. Luck is funny how it follows hard work and strategy.

Yeah I think of these as pseudo-stats; just some filler to get to the actual games on the weekend (this is why we need Thursday night games all season). Things that seem to be missing from the analysis:

1) Doesn't say whether the shots are set shots or in general play (which are usually under much more pressure). I would love to see how many set shots we are giving up as a % of total oppo shots on goal vs the rest of the competition, that in of itself could explain the low scoring.

2) I would be pretttty sure their stats just aggregate all shots from a particular place on the field and not the player taking the shot. Consider for example a set shot ~45m out a little way to the left of goals; then compare the % of Plugger taking that shot vs. a left footed defender who barely kicks goals; it will be stark. If we're giving up shots further out but deliberately letting less able players have those shots (which is a bit of a stretch) or if this is just an unintended but welcome by-product our our game plan then it would also do more to explain the low scoring that 'Saints have been lucky so far'.

 

[parkeysaintertheman]

We will have 5-6 genuine first team footballers miss this week. Tough to be a selector at RSEA Park this week.

 

[The_Steadier]

Congrats on POU for getting the mark of the year and rising star nom!
Astounded that some still want to drop him for vanillings

Lovely fairytale- the Pou would love that one along with goldilocks before bedtime.

People (ie me and other smart people) wanted him rested after the 5 day break vs port.

Where he stunk it up to high heaven.

I hadn't seen anyone calling for him to be rested after a 9 day break against one of the worst teams in the league.

 

[BucketsandBanger]

'It's a big decision': Lyon cautious on rushing back King

Max King needs to get through training this week in order to be available to face Adelaide on Sunday

www.afl.com.au

Doesn't sound like King is playing. If that's the case I would go back to what was working in rounds 1 to 5 and bring in Cordy and Caminiti.

 

[malevu]

Imagine the melts on here if there's one change and it's IN: Cordy OUT: Sharman and Max and Caminiti play at Sandy.