Opinion Sack Hinkley 10 - UnTENable

[Scodges]

Sure... I don't doubt the negative, whining, fickle element of Port fans within your group put the boot into various players after every loss. I'm just talking about the over-arching criticism that comes when all the emotions have settled. The stuff you bang on about days later... The lingering criticisms you have now when you reflect on your finals fade out.

Was it Hinkley's fault that Butters, Rozee and Powell-Pepper were sub par in the semi final loss to the Giants?

Was it Hinkley's fault that Dixon and Finlayson gave you nothing this September?

At what point do you give it a rest about the coaching and put it on the players?

Yes it is his fault, he’s unable to prepare the group for big games, whether it be finals, showdowns, tribute games etc. he’s garbage !


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[Alberton Proud]

Sack Hinkley 10 - The Hound of the Basketcase

 

[Back One Out]

A coaches job, what they are remunerated extremely well for, is to have their best players primed to perform in big games.

Our last 3 finals we have lost by a collective 142 points. At what point is the coach responsible for this?

This is exactly what I mean...

Rather than blaming Butters, Rozee, Powell-Pepper, Dixon and Finlayson for playing poorly vs GWS, you prefer to blame Hinkley.

You think it's Ken's "job" to have them primed to perform in the biggest game.

I think it's THEIR job to be primed to perform in the biggest game.

Do you really think Clarkson waved his magic wand and sprinkled his magic fairy dust over Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell to get them at their best in September and racking up 35 touches? They did that themselves. They were both sub-par in the 2012 GF loss to Sydney. Wasn't Clarko's fault they played badly. It was their fault.

Craig McRae is undisputably a great coach. Probably the best right now. But do you really think it was his coaching genius which had Scott Pendlebury pulling the strings in the last quarter of the Grand Final? Was McRae the reason why Nick Daicos come back from a 6 week injury spell and kicked arse in the 2 biggest games?

I'm not saying coaches don't play a role in motivating their players and getting them to execute gameplans, etc... I just think people give them far too much credit (and criticism) for what the players do out on the field. Hinkley has proved over his 11 years that he knows what he is doing. Double digit winning seasons every year. Finals more often than not. That indicates to me he is a good coach.

I think another good indicator is the W/L record in close games. I think a good coach vs a mediocre coach can probably make difference when it's a tight game. Not just moving the magnets around on the whiteboard, or pumping them up at half time. Moreso, having the right systems in place, players being in the right spots and playing the percentages, etc. AKA "good coaching"... We see it clearly with the current Collingwood side, but it's true in most sports, I think.

Port Adelaide this season in games decided by 10 points or less: 6 wins, 1 loss.

 

[tribey]

The parallel universe of 2010 in which Port fans have the 2002/2003/2004/2007 flags under their belts, and are descending on the Hawthorn board to victim blame them for being sick of eleven years of Peter Schwab.

“You almost merged as junior partner with Melbourne in 1996!”

“If Trent Croad’s shot goes in he would’ve got you into a Grand Final in just his second year!”

We’d get verbally obliterated by the likes of Brown&Gold888991 and RichieVanDelicious and rightly so.

 

[afl2004]

This is exactly what I mean...

Rather than blaming Butters, Rozee, Powell-Pepper, Dixon and Finlayson for playing poorly vs GWS, you prefer to blame Hinkley.

You think it's Ken's "job" to have them primed to perform in the biggest game.

I think it's THEIR job to be primed to perform in the biggest game.

Do you really Clarkson waved his magic wand and sprinkled his magic fairy dust over Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell to get them at their best in September and racking up 35 touches? They did that themselves. They were both sub-par in the 2012 GF loss to Sydney. Wasn't Clarko's fault they played badly. It was their fault.

Craig McRae is undisputably a great coach. Probably the best right now. But do you really think it was his coaching genius which had Scott Pendlebury pulling the strings in the last quarter of the Grand Final? Was McRae the reason why Nick Daicos come back from a 6 week injury spell and kicked arse in the 2 biggest games?

I'm not saying coaches don't play a role in motivating their players and getting them to execute gameplans, etc... I just think people give them far too much credit (and criticism) for what the players do out on the field. Hinkley has proved over his 11 years that he knows what he is doing. Double digit winning seasons every year. Finals more often than not. That indicates to me he is a good coach.

I think another good indicator is the W/L record in close games. I think a good coach vs a mediocre coach can probably difference when it's a tight game. Port this season in games decided by 10 points or less: 6 wins, 1 loss.

Eat my ass

 

[tribey]

Eat my arse

Imagine citing his record in close games with a straight face.

 

[Alberton Proud]

Eat my arse

Was thinking the very same thing

 

[BornPort]

What is it with simpletons and their love of Ken Hinkley?

 

[afl2004]

Imagine citing his record in close games with a straight face.

Definitely a member of the hinkley family, got the selective memory of Bart touching the electric cup cake

 

[JimmyBC]

I just loved the it's not the SANFL anymore post lol how fckn tone deaf are people.

 

[philreich]

That's the thing which irks me the most about all the Hinkley bashing. None of you guys are ever critical of your own players

That's normally what most fans have to face up to when our teams fall short. (Unless we can play the 'injury excuses' card or bag the umpires.) Once it's the cold light of day and all the excuses have run out, we have to deal with the fact that maybe we overrated a few of our "star" players and that we simply weren't good enough.

But the "Sack Hinkley" Mob have neatly side-stepped ever having to deal with this unpalatable truth.

After every loss, they just blame their coach

"Our blokes are the BEST PLAYERS in the AFL!! They're all CHAMPIONS!!! We just have a s**t coach."

You obviously haven't read our game day threads.

 

[Powerade 08]

cheers cu ntarse

 

[Back One Out]

Imagine citing his record in close games with a straight face.

6 wins, 1 loss this year in games decided by 10 points or less

15 wins, 6 losses over the last 4 years.

He must be doing something right.

Not selective memory, afl2004 That's you with the selective memory
I'm just researching the stats and stating the facts.

 

[tribey]

6 wins, 1 loss this year in games decided by 10 points or less

15 wins, 6 losses over the last 4 years.

He must be doing something right.

Yeah.

He’s otherwise powerless to prevent his forwards from being inefficient, or routinely not showing up in games and finals Port are red hot favourites in at home;

But thankfully he uses his Jedi Mindtricks to cause Ollie Florent’s after-siren shot to fall short, and Dan Houston and Robbie Gray’s after-siren shots to fall true.

 

[Alberton Proud]

We exist to win close games against bottom 6 sides

 

[PowerBaz]

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6 wins, 1 loss this year in games decided by 10 points or less

15 wins, 6 losses over the last 4 years.

He must be doing something right.

Keeping his job.

 

[NoddyHolder]

Righto...

I probably shouldn't use superlatives like "none of you ever bag your players"

I should've simply said, "It's weak as piss to blame the coach for all your team's failures when the reality is most losses can be attributed to mistakes from your team's spuds plus the failure of your team's star players to bring their best"

(this applies to all teams)

Bloody well said

These idiots need to:

• realise they're not in the sanfl anymore
• remember where we were in 2012
• understand that kenny can't kick it for the useless players

After all - who else ya gonna get?

 

[tribey]

I'm just researching the stats and stating the facts.

Oh boy.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

That's the thing which irks me the most about all the Hinkley bashing. None of you guys are ever critical of your own players

That's normally what most fans have to face up to when our teams fall short. (Unless we can play the 'injury excuses' card or bag the umpires.) Once it's the cold light of day and all the excuses have run out, we have to deal with the fact that maybe we overrated a few of our "star" players and that we simply weren't good enough.

But the "Sack Hinkley" Mob have neatly side-stepped ever having to deal with this unpalatable truth.

After every loss, they just blame their coach

"Our blokes are the BEST PLAYERS in the AFL!! They're all CHAMPIONS!!! We just have a s**t coach."

Is there a roster somewhere for these blow ins with no idea?

They seems to come in regularly, get schooled and then sulk off.

It'd be nice if they just checked all the answers from the last blow in but they never do, so at least we could be prepared.

Imagine thinking we are never critical of our own players.

And imagine not realising that there is only one player left from pre-Ken and that both Ken and the club have boasted that he has reshaped this list several times over with 2 constants. Ken and the results.

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[Enviable Tradition]

Righto...

I probably shouldn't use superlatives like "none of you ever bag your players"

I should've simply said, "It's weak as piss to blame the coach for all your team's failures when the reality is most losses can be attributed to mistakes from your team's spuds plus the failure of your team's star players to bring their best"

(this applies to all teams)

Lol weak as piss.

Time to trot along now troll.

I know you think you are giving us razor sharp analysis but it's only sharp because it is paper thin.

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[Enviable Tradition]

S**tposters unite. It's time for part 10

Sack Hinkley X - not "sack X, Hinkley"

I think its got to be Sack Hinkley - Time to back one out.

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[Back One Out]

Yeah.

He’s otherwise powerless to prevent his forwards from being inefficient, or routinely not showing up in games and finals Port are red hot favourites in at home;

But thankfully he uses his Jedi Mindtricks to cause Ollie Florent’s after-siren shot to fall short, and Dan Houston and Robbie Gray’s after-siren shots to fall true.

Awesome set shot by Dan Houston. He was in the right place to mark that ball, though. Really bad play by that Essendon scrub to panic like he did and hack the ball onto his boot and onto Houston's chest. He needed to keep it in the congested area and force another ball up.

If that was a Port defender who did that and lost you the game, you'd be burning effigies of Kenny.

Really, that was a game you should've lost. Essendon were pumped up that night and threw the kitchen sink at you. Port also wasted so many chances. It was a bit of a miracle that Port won it. All the Bombers fans in the pub where I watching were BLEEDING. They thought they had it won.

Gotta give credit to the coach for helping his players get through a tight game and win a game they probably should've lost.

But I'm sure all you narks were bagging him out cos Port didn't destroy Essendon by 10 goals.

 

[tribey]

Awesome set shot by Dan Houston. He was in the right place to mark that ball, though. Really bad play by that Essendon scrub to panic like he did and hack the ball onto his boot and onto Houston's chest. If that was a Port defender who did that and lost you the game, you'd be burning effigies of Kenny.

Really, that was a game you should've lost. Essendon were pumped up that night and threw the kitchen sink at you. Port also wasted so many chances. It was a bit of a miracle that Port won it. All the Bombers fans in the pub I was at were *ing BLEEDING about it. They thought they had it won.

Gotta give credit to the coach for helping his players get through a tight game and win a game they probably should've lost.

But I'm sure all the narks were bagging him out cos Port didn't destroy Essendon by 10 goals.

Right.

So Kenny gets all the credit when Port win (by the skin of their teeth, when it was literally a majestic feat by an individual that secured the chocolates), but the endless titanic catastrophes while red hot favourites at home can’t be chalked up to him after eleven years of oddly similar outcomes?

Is that your line of logic?

 

[Capital Power]

Oppo fans should be allowed to post in this thread only if they are prepared to publicly post that they would replace their own coach with Hinkley if given the chance.

 

[Back One Out]

Oppo fans should be allowed to post in this thread only if they are prepared to publicly post that they would replace their own coach with Hinkley if given the chance.

I would replace Sam Mitchell with Ken Hinkley if given the chance.