Selection Queries: Round 3

[KnockOut]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing as the expression goes. And while we don't come out and slam our match committee prior to the game most football brains had a feeling dropping Scotland would have an adverse affect on the team.

The continued selection of rookies Jacobs and Garlett also seem to be mistakes, after a blinder of a debut both seem to have burnt out already and lack passion while playing.

Regardless of a preseason mishap on Carlos` behalf his form in the Ants warranted selection and deserved another chance on one of Lloyd and Lucas in a backline void of a 'good' defender (one that actually punches the ball in a contest).

Now while I am not calling for 4-5 changes to the team come Saturday I beleive a turnover of 2-3 players will encourage success from the reserves right through to the Carlton team.

Possible Changes?

 

[Free Willy]

We need a few mature bodies in the side against the Swans.

Bring in - Armfield & Scotland.

Out - Gartlett (got a taste, did well, will only improve with some time in the ressies) & Russell (I think he has been serviceable & much improved, but faded out badly & Armfield is in line for his spot, & deserves a chance).

Scotland down back to be another creative option down back & to free up Houla who should be playing forward of the centre.

Armfield can do a run with job & is in cmpetition with Russell for that job / spot. I'm far from a Russell "hater" but Army deserves his chance.

* Possible gamble - swap Jacobs for Hampson.

 

[Bluebear]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing as the expression goes. And while we don't come out and slam our match committee prior to the game most football brains had a feeling dropping Scotland would have an adverse affect on the team.

The continued selection of rookies Jacobs and Garlett also seem to be mistakes, after a blinder of a debut both seem to have burnt out already and lack passion while playing.

Regardless of a preseason mishap on Carlos` behalf his form in the Ants warranted selection and deserved another chance on one of Lloyd and Lucas in a backline void of a 'good' defender (one that actually punches the ball in a contest).

Now while I am not calling for 4-5 changes to the team come Saturday I beleive a turnover of 2-3 players will encourage success from the reserves right through to the Carlton team.

Possible Changes?

Jacobs?
Apart from competing against, and often beating the ruckman who SMASHED us last year twice (Hille) what more could you want.

I agree with Garlett, and actually wanted him dropped last week.
Teams have relised his tackled don't stick, so his inferred pressure from getting near has dropped also. His skills aren't up to it and should make way for.....? Yarran?

I called for Scotland to go out from Stevens as well, as Scotty wasn;t running games out and I thought he could do with a run. I didn't see his name among the best for the Ants which would be a little disapointing IMO.

We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

1 Change with a smaller swans forward line, and maybe two changes for balance.

In: Yarran, ? Armfield
Out: Garlett, Thornton (disciplinary reasons)

 

[thylacine60]

Be nice if Yarran was the type who whacked the cape on when surrounded by real quality. How good would that be? Sort of make him virtually undroppable but.

 

[Blue Dawn]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing as the expression goes. And while we don't come out and slam our match committee prior to the game most football brains had a feeling dropping Scotland would have an adverse affect on the team.

The continued selection of rookies Jacobs and Garlett also seem to be mistakes, after a blinder of a debut both seem to have burnt out already and lack passion while playing.

Regardless of a preseason mishap on Carlos` behalf his form in the Ants warranted selection and deserved another chance on one of Lloyd and Lucas in a backline void of a 'good' defender (one that actually punches the ball in a contest).

Now while I am not calling for 4-5 changes to the team come Saturday I beleive a turnover of 2-3 players will encourage success from the reserves right through to the Carlton team.

Possible Changes?

Don't agree about Jacobs. Has been ok and is a clearly better option than Hammer against Jolly on the close confines of the SCG.

Garlett must go and, as i'd really like to see Browne's intensity back in out team, i think JR should make way as well (although this won't happen). He's also capable of playing HFF and slotting a couple.

If it were a different opponent with a tall forward structure i'd be VERY tempted to bring in another tall - particularly as Bower was exposed so badly last week.

OUT: Garltett, Russell.

IN: Armfield, Browne.

 

[HereComesTheTruth]

Carlos - i think carlos "exile" from the group is well and truly over. He does the diciplined thing by always punching the ball away but i think his downfall is wen he has the ball. he is so unpredictable when he has possession and it makes it almost impossible to set up a play from the back 50. if the bloke with the ball doesnt know what hes going to do with it, let alone his team mates

Carrots - Carrazzo had 41 touches on sunday but this is deceiving. he was running wider than shane woewoden (excuse the spelling) getting cheap kicks, his disposal was of someone who looked like they hadnt touched the footy in 2 months, he continuously pulled at his arm guard and he clearly didnt have enough confidence in his arm to take full body contact. Give him another 2 weeks before hes in contention

scotland - he didnt set the world on fire on sunday but he did enough to put himself back in the navy blue

hampson/ jacobs - hampson was looking much better from last year and by seasons end i would think that he'll be playing regularly, for the first time ever he looks to be playing with some confidence. Jacobs i thought did alright against hille, he had 2 questionable attempts at the ball but after he got a rocket from ratts he was good again

garlett/yarran - this is the real question mark. claerly garlett isnt ready yet but does that mean that yarran should be rewarded for just ok form in the vfl?

armfield - he is playing really well but russell seems to be untuchable


i think the changes will be
IN: yarran
OUT: garlett
ON NOTICE: russell, grigg and jacobs

 

[KnockOut]

Jacobs?...what more could you want.

A bit of desperation, especially in that last quarter when Essendon simply wanted it more. Hille dominated around the ground and at times Jacobs was well within spoiling distance but simply was far too lazy to spoil which became really frustrating.

I agree with Garlett, and actually wanted him dropped last week...His skills aren't up to it... Yarran?

Yarran is perhaps the better option while Walker would be ideal. Garlett simply does not run hard enough and often enough to find enough space to compensate for his lack of finishing.

In: Yarran, ? Armfield
Out: Garlett, Thornton (disciplinary reasons)

Dropping Thornton would be a big mistake. Our back line really needs to learn to spoil ala Jamison and Waite and Thornton provides that weather it's his man or in a pack situation. Bower and others really struggle to punch the ball with any conviction.
In: Bannister/O'hailpin, Armfield/Yarran, Hampson
Out: Garlett, Jacobs, Russel

 

[blue_boys]

Can people stop saying to drop Russell!!!

Its not going to happen, end of story.

He plays his role and does it well, even if it isn't flashy it will be needed especially against the Swans.

 

[cisco82]

drop russell FFS , its not that hard . Iv never been a russel basher but nows the time to drop him .. russel for army , yarran or setanta for garlett (depending on weather you think it was our defence or our attack that lost us the game) ..

 

[gbatman]

i have found Jacobs gets a little better with every game.
Definate out is Garlett while a definate in is Armfield. Russell out for Scotland if he was fit but he isn't so Browne can come in for him. Browne could replace Robinson too.
If Robinson is replaced by Browne then Russell should be replaced by O'hAilpin.

 

[Silvagnis]

hampson was looking much better from last year and by seasons end i would think that he'll be playing regularly, for the first time ever he looks to be playing with some confidence.

Hampson's upside is enormous for a soccer convert that tall, coordinated and athletic. Shaun isn't as talented as Angwin who wasted his talent and everyone's time because he was a tool. But like Angwin, Hampson can do some things that a big man doesn't have the right to do on the field. I'd be furious if we traded Hampson to the Gold Coast like a few Carlton supporters have suggested.

 

[Cruiser23]

I had no issue with the selections at the time though i thought Setanta needed to be brought in, whether it be at the expense of Grigg/Stevens or be a 3rd change.

 

[Azul]

Drop Jacobs? He's the best ruck we, currently, have.

Certainly, Kreuzer is a gifted man-child who will no doubt have long surpassed him by the end of the year - he wasn't #1 in the draft for nothing! But currently Sam is the best we've had since Barnaby.

Sam is no athlete like Hampson or even Warnock but he's an old-style ruckman with footy smarts. Make no mistake, he can play - infinitely better in the ruck than Ackland, Cloke, Mclaren or Mott.

Expect Swanny to lobby the AFL for a 5 man interchange bench so we can include Shaun Hampson.

 

[KnockOut]

Drop Jacobs? He's the best ruck we, currently, have.

While he does prove to be very valuable in the centre bounces around the ground he is very lazy and not quite up to AFL standards. Shows no desperation and while he was playing on an elite AFL ruckman in Hille, Jacobs simply refused to spoil or pressure his man.

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

For those that are saying bring in Yarran, he has done nothing! To give you an idea, average players like Lovett Murray and Armfield can rack up 35+ touches in these games while Yarran can only touch it 8 times. I know, different positions but the gulf is incredible - Eddie Bets would rack up 20+ in the VFL because he has stamina and can run/chase.

Yarran does not have the stamina, and is also slow on the chase/fwd pressure which is now what a fwd pocket player is all about!! Make him earn his spot or in a weeks time you will be saying drop him! If Yarran does play, i'll be looking at his direct opponent and seeing how much ball/run out of defence they get!

 

[4QTR BLUES]

Cannot believe that Jacobs is in the gun for his efforts in the past 3 weeks. The guy has been impressive and appears to be getting better. He has been very competitive in the ruck, made himself available around the ground as a link up player and when the ball was on the ground used his bulk to clear space.

Against Essendon we lost Kruezer for an extended period of time due to his cut head which left Jacobs on the ground for longer periods than normal and he was changing with Cloke who we all realise is too small to tax Hille to his full extent.

So to some he appeared lazy.....Mate in that game he wasnt on his pat malone.

////Footnote: Watched Hampson and Carlos in the Bullants on Sunday. Both try very hard but currently do not have the ability to go body on body with Jolly. Horses for courses - No change in the ruck this week.

 

[Bluebear]

Carlos - i think carlos "exile" from the group is well and truly over. He does the diciplined thing by always punching the ball away but i think his downfall is wen he has the ball. he is so unpredictable when he has possession and it makes it almost impossible to set up a play from the back 50. if the bloke with the ball doesnt know what hes going to do with it, let alone his team mates

Sorry, but this is a load of crap, and a myth that is being perpetuated.

Setanta's kicking looks awkward, but he actually kicks very well.
I'd have no more comfidence in the disposal of Bower......actually I have less confidence in Bowers disposal.
What Setanta lacks is game sense. He is learning that.

This said there is no place for him in our side. Thornton had a forgettable game, but needs to make a mends. He has worked hard enough to deserve a chance to step up again.

Carrots - Carrazzo had 41 touches on sunday but this is deceiving. he was running wider than shane woewoden (excuse the spelling) getting cheap kicks, his disposal was of someone who looked like they hadnt touched the footy in 2 months, he continuously pulled at his arm guard and he clearly didnt have enough confidence in his arm to take full body contact. Give him another 2 weeks before hes in contention

scotland - he didnt set the world on fire on sunday but he did enough to put himself back in the navy blue

This makes no sense.
Senior player dropped to the two's should DOMINATE. I haven't seen or read a single positive about Scotties game, unlike Stevens the week before who smashed in in the two's.
Just how has he done enough to get a senior game?

hampson/ jacobs - hampson was looking much better from last year and by seasons end i would think that he'll be playing regularly, for the first time ever he looks to be playing with some confidence. Jacobs i thought did alright against hille, he had 2 questionable attempts at the ball but after he got a rocket from ratts he was good again

garlett/yarran - this is the real question mark. claerly garlett isnt ready yet but does that mean that yarran should be rewarded for just ok form in the vfl?

Why not? Garlett had NO form in the VFL yet is being rewarded. Teague said they felt that each timwe they went inside 50, if they could get it to Yarran that they would score. Sounds "just O.K." to me.

He is no less deserving of a spot than Garlett. Garlett is undersized (they break his tackles too easily) and underskilled at present for seniors. No question about his endeavour, but I think its time to see what Yarran can do.

armfield - he is playing really well but russell seems to be untuchable


i think the changes will be
IN: yarran
OUT: garlett
ON NOTICE: russell, grigg and jacobs

Grigg on notice? Yeah, sure.

Agree with the ins and outs.

 

[Blueboiiz]

armfield a certain to play.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/74982/default.aspx

 

[HereComesTheTruth]

Sorry, but this is a load of crap, and a myth that is being perpetuated.

Setanta's kicking looks awkward, but he actually kicks very well.
I'd have no more comfidence in the disposal of Bower......actually I have less confidence in Bowers disposal.
What Setanta lacks is game sense. He is learning that.

This said there is no place for him in our side. Thornton had a forgettable game, but needs to make a mends. He has worked hard enough to deserve a chance to step up again.

This makes no sense.
Senior player dropped to the two's should DOMINATE. I haven't seen or read a single positive about Scotties game, unlike Stevens the week before who smashed in in the two's.
Just how has he done enough to get a senior game?

Why not? Garlett had NO form in the VFL yet is being rewarded. Teague said they felt that each timwe they went inside 50, if they could get it to Yarran that they would score. Sounds "just O.K." to me.

He is no less deserving of a spot than Garlett. Garlett is undersized (they break his tackles too easily) and underskilled at present for seniors. No question about his endeavour, but I think its time to see what Yarran can do.

Grigg on notice? Yeah, sure.

Agree with the ins and outs.

Never did i comment on setanta's kicking, i actually agree that he is a pretty good kick. but his decision making skills arent upto scratch. if setanta gets the ball at CHB in a game you wouldnt have a clue what he hes going to do with it...he could make the right choice but many times he can make the wrong choice...because of this the team cannot set up a definate play. its not his fault, he just hasnt grown up playing the game.

Bower is in a similar boat, he also has questionable decision making skills but since he first started at the blues/bullants he has improved 10 fold.

Scotland should have dominated but a 29 possession game is hardly disgracing himself. he did the same role as he would do in the 1's, nothing flashy or fantastic but he did his role across half back and is a long way in front of carrots. Not to mention he is comoing back from injury. furthermore im pretty sure the week before stevens PLAYED HIS ROLE as the number 1 midfielder...gotta compare apples with apples, they played different positions.

in regards to yarran and "just o.k", read between the lines. hes trying to boost his confidence. yarran is a freak but he is playing with no confidence at all.

I 100% agree with you on garlett in regards to the tackling & forward pressure. but i think he was given a go because of his good form in the nab cup match.

Grigg on notice, why not? on saturday there were several players running around like they were millionaires, but the only millionaire we have is c.judd and it showed. grigg didnt pay enough respect to his opponent at stages and his form isnt that much better than scotlands thus if he has another poor game this week then he could be in strife if we happen to lose as well