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I count 6... 1963,1975, 1984,1985,1987,2012Its crazy Hawthorn and St Kilda have both lost 7 grand finals.
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I count 6... 1963,1975, 1984,1985,1987,2012Its crazy Hawthorn and St Kilda have both lost 7 grand finals.
Sorry 6 each. And of course 1 to 13 flags.I count 6... 1963,1975, 1984,1985,1987,2012
You forgot 2 factors.04 is a stretch.
Both the Saints and cats were up and coming teams at the time, but were both well off Port and Brisbane.
Brisbane smacked Saints by 13 goals in the QF. Port smashed us by 9 goals.
Both had close PF wins against the other.
Exactly, Saints had beaten Brisbane 2 of 3 Home&Away meetings across 2003 & 2004 before that QF belting.You forgot 2 factors.
1. Saints only lost by a goal in that preliminary final vs Port Adelaide thanks to some Gavin Wanganeen Heroics late in that game.
2. I still would of given the saints a slim chance in 2004 vs Brisbane. Saints had some vets from that 1997 grand final
Yesterday's result pretty much cements us down the bottom. Even (somehow) winning 5 of the last 6 we'd struggle finishing above 14th.For their sake, hopefully they don't muster up some wins late and drag themselves back into No Man's Land again.
If they stay in the bottom 4, and offload Battle for compensation - they will have set themselves up nicely over the last 2-3 years.
No way the competition allows Battle (an honest trier) gets tier one compo. Tier 3 maybe.Yesterday's result pretty much cements us down the bottom. Even (somehow) winning 5 of the last 6 we'd struggle finishing above 14th.
So we're guaranteed one high pick.
Article in the Age yesterday on Battle. I agree, if we can get a pick 5 or 6 and draft another quality mid, it's a no brainer
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How the Saints can lose this Battle, but win the war
St Kilda could net early first-round compensation if Josh Battle leaves, so it may just be in the Saints’ best interests to let him walk.www.theage.com.au
No way the competition allows Battle (an honest trier) gets tier one compo. Tier 3 maybe.
No way the competition allows Battle (an honest trier) gets tier one compo. Tier 3 maybe.
I disagree. Otherwise they would release it to the public.If you pay dem enuff moneys dey gives you Tier 1.
If you pay an honest trier enough moneys dey gives you Tier 1.
Its not brain surgery. its not a mysterious conspiracy.
They should be no where near the bottom 4. They have bottom out and picked up some fantastic kids. For me it's a culture problem whoever idea it was to bring back Ross should be sacked and then SOS to. Sacked Ratten and gone backwards million miles. The writing was on the wall with so much staff leaving.They're out of No Man's Land now though right?
If you finish bottom 4, you're rubbish. You're not in No Man's Land - you're not good.
For their sake, hopefully they don't muster up some wins late and drag themselves back into No Man's Land again.
If they stay in the bottom 4, and offload Battle for compensation - they will have set themselves up nicely over the last 2-3 years.
Sorry man, you lost me at 'culture'.They should be no where near the bottom 4. They have bottom out and picked up some fantastic kids. For me it's a culture problem whoever idea it was to bring back Ross should be sacked and then SOS to. Sacked Ratten and gone backwards million miles. The writing was on the wall with so much staff leaving.
Maybe dig a bit deeper and you'll realise great clubs are built on great culture around it.Sorry man, you lost me at 'culture'.
Who are the great clubs?Maybe dig a bit deeper and you'll realise great clubs are built on great culture around it.
Exactly, Saints had beaten Brisbane 2 of 3 Home&Away meetings across 2003 & 2004 before that QF belting.
Reversing QF results can happen. Hawthorn were down by about 50 at 3QT of the 2015 QF in Perth, then smashed the Eagles in the GF at the G.
Brisbane apparently weren't in great shape on GF day, after being forced to play their prelim at the MCG and return a few days later. Port smacked them in the GF with 11 goals to 4 in the second half. Fair chance the young Saints would've beaten them too.
Well its the AFL, So I dont know what they are thinking.No way the competition allows Battle (an honest trier) gets tier one compo. Tier 3 maybe.
Well its the AFL, So I dont know what they are thinking.
Crows fans hoped for a top 3 or top 5 compo pick in 2020 when Brad Crouch left Ironically to the saints. Crows got pick 21 or 23 as a free agent compo pick for crouch. Thats only because Saints offered him $600-$650,000 a year for 5 years. Had it been a year earlier in 2019, when the crows finished 11th. So that would of meant crows would of likely crows would of got a 1st round compo for Crouch, likely Pick 9 or 10 or 11 depending on NGA and father son and free agentcy picks.
I reckon 2 or 3 Victorian clubs will look at him. I also think one club is crazy enough to offer him $800,000 a year for 5 or 6 years too.
If you play a very defensive game style, of course the losses may look closer on paper because the total scores for both teams are lower. But that doesn't necessarily mean you were any 'closer' to winning them - being 12 points down near the end of the game can be a big deal if you're only scoring 6 goals for the entire match.Again.... the cold hard win and loss record only tells you certain amount of stats.
Saints lost a few close games this season. Could easily be 10 wins and 6 losses and inside the top 8.
If you play a very defensive game style, of course the losses may look closer on paper because the total scores for both teams are lower. But that doesn't necessarily mean you were any 'closer' to winning them - being 12 points down near the end of the game can be a big deal if you're only scoring 6 goals for the entire match.
Well, they’ve already spoiled St Kildas plans!RTB reckons the saints can play the role of spoiling a few teams plans for finals.
Will be interesting to see what him and SOS do in the off season. I’m expecting a sprinkling of cheap re-treads to come onto the list and he’ll wrongly back the rest in.
True, but I’m keen to see who they look to land over the draft and trading period.Well, they’ve already spoiled St Kildas plans!
The saints brand of footy makes them competitive for most weeks.St Kilda plays a brand of footy that rebuilding teams play. Keep the scores really low to where you are maybe down 2-3 goals in the 4th quarter then try and fluke the win.
That’s why they are in no man’s land.