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Nice old whack from Richard Colless for McGuire;

Few takeaways;

One of football’s most respected off-field figures, Richard Colless, has slammed Eddie McGuire over “garbage” and “offensive” claims Sydney rorted the salary cap to poach superstar Lance Franklin.

Colless, who stood up to McGuire over his Adam Goodes “King Kong” gaffe in 2013, said the former Collingwood president was “a bully” who “has form” with his commentary around Sydney’s indigenous champions.

Colless said McGuire demonstrated a lack of understanding around the “economic realities” of the property market in Sydney and the way the COLA money was distributed to every Swans’ player on a pro rata basis.
“He (McGuire) said he was supportive of it (COLA for younger players) but where he had an issue was all the cleaners and housemaids that ‘Buddy’ Franklin had,” Colless told the Herald Sun.
“I find that absolutely offensive and it has got a strangely familiar ring to the ‘Goodesy’ comments.

“So, a lot of people are absolutely sick of Eddie’s self-serving approach, and I’m sick of defending him up here.
“He’s got form, talking about our indigenous players. He’s got form using the term rort.

“But he’s also got form because he is a bully. He says he won’t accept rubbish. I have had a gut full. I won’t accept his rubbish.”

Colless was adamant the AFL should never have scrapped COLA and said player managers were reluctant to move their players to Sydney where house prices are 30 per cent more expensive than Melbourne, based on latest figures.

“I’m yet to find anyone that disputes the fact that the cost of living is much greater in Sydney. It is empirical data,” Colless said.


And on the need to sort out the game in NSW.

Colless said the AFL had to act and launch a major review into the game in New South Wales to increase participation, young talent and crowds.

“The game is effectively moribund (doomed) in the western suburbs of Sydney, and David Matthews said the NRL was stronger now (in NSW) than when he arrived,” he said.

“The AFL has to do a major review, not just band aids. Not just saying we will sharpen up Auskick, or we will pay greater attention to fixturing.

“We need to look at where the game needs to be in 25 years’ time.”




Onya Richard.

PS
McGuire is reported to want to cut out 'taunting' as happened with Daicos on the weekend.
He apparently showed a number of instances from this season.
Strangely no examples using Collingwood players doing the taunting was included.
Twitter was happy to oblige with clips.

Best stuff I’ve heard all year
 

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“He (McGuire) said he was supportive of it (COLA for younger players) but where he had an issue was all the cleaners and housemaids that ‘Buddy’ Franklin had,” Colless told the Herald Sun.
“I find that absolutely offensive and it has got a strangely familiar ring to the ‘Goodesy’ comments.


McGuire actually said that? surely not.
 
Nice old whack from Richard Colless for McGuire;

Few takeaways;

One of football’s most respected off-field figures, Richard Colless, has slammed Eddie McGuire over “garbage” and “offensive” claims Sydney rorted the salary cap to poach superstar Lance Franklin.

Colless, who stood up to McGuire over his Adam Goodes “King Kong” gaffe in 2013, said the former Collingwood president was “a bully” who “has form” with his commentary around Sydney’s indigenous champions.

Colless said McGuire demonstrated a lack of understanding around the “economic realities” of the property market in Sydney and the way the COLA money was distributed to every Swans’ player on a pro rata basis.
“He (McGuire) said he was supportive of it (COLA for younger players) but where he had an issue was all the cleaners and housemaids that ‘Buddy’ Franklin had,” Colless told the Herald Sun.
“I find that absolutely offensive and it has got a strangely familiar ring to the ‘Goodesy’ comments.

“So, a lot of people are absolutely sick of Eddie’s self-serving approach, and I’m sick of defending him up here.
“He’s got form, talking about our indigenous players. He’s got form using the term rort.

“But he’s also got form because he is a bully. He says he won’t accept rubbish. I have had a gut full. I won’t accept his rubbish.”

Colless was adamant the AFL should never have scrapped COLA and said player managers were reluctant to move their players to Sydney where house prices are 30 per cent more expensive than Melbourne, based on latest figures.

“I’m yet to find anyone that disputes the fact that the cost of living is much greater in Sydney. It is empirical data,” Colless said.


And on the need to sort out the game in NSW.

Colless said the AFL had to act and launch a major review into the game in New South Wales to increase participation, young talent and crowds.

“The game is effectively moribund (doomed) in the western suburbs of Sydney, and David Matthews said the NRL was stronger now (in NSW) than when he arrived,” he said.

“The AFL has to do a major review, not just band aids. Not just saying we will sharpen up Auskick, or we will pay greater attention to fixturing.

“We need to look at where the game needs to be in 25 years’ time.”




Onya Richard.

PS
McGuire is reported to want to cut out 'taunting' as happened with Daicos on the weekend.
He apparently showed a number of instances from this season.
Strangely no examples using Collingwood players doing the taunting was included.
Twitter was happy to oblige with clips.

There's a reason he is referred to as Eddie Everywhere.

His influence on the game has been the very thing he accuses us of - a rort!
 
Can i ask what is this about , is it something i missed from our media department ?
 

Chad Warner says the Swans are on the verge of returning to their best football as he tries to meet the lofty expectations imposed on him after a breakout season.

Warner has been held to less than 20 disposals three times this season, twice in the heavy losses to Melbourne and Geelong, with the high expectations placed on him after his superb 2022 proving difficult to manage.

“The expectations do get a bit high and last year I wouldn’t have worried about it as much, but it’s something I love and something I embrace is the challenge, so hopefully I can keep going from strength to strength,” he said.
“You try and embrace it but obviously hearing it all the time isn’t great for you, and I’ve just got to get back to playing consistent footy at the moment.
“I’ve had a couple of good patches here and there, but along with the team I need to stay consistent and I think I’m getting there at the moment.”


On Tom Mac & RJ

Warner had dinner with concussed defender Tom McCartin on Thursday night and said his teammate was “going well” despite being ruled out of the Fremantle clash, while he was excited to play with Tom Hickey for the first time this season after the ruck journeyman overcame a calf strain.

“He’s been raring to go – each week he’s been going up to Horse (coach John Longmire) and telling him what he can do,” Warner said.
“I can’t wait to see his long hair going at the weekend again.”


Article also mentions Paley's 150th this weekend;

Saturday will mark Tom Papley’s 150th game, with the small forward just the second player from the draft class of 2015 to reach the milestone despite being passed over until pick 14 of the rookie draft.

(Longmire) “To have him around the footy club and have him as a 150-gamer and a life member of the footy club is pretty significant.”

Longmire said he was always happy to see a trademark wild celebration from his passionate star.

“He enjoys playing footy, and when you see a smile on his face it’s good for everyone.”


Fair effort for Papley to be the second player to reach 150 games from his draft (Clayton Oliver now 155 the first)
Chad, Paps & RJ all firing on the weekend would be pleasing.
 
Interesting article from Steve Johnson on where the Swans are at (from yesterday);

Few takeaways;

.....having worked at the club between 2018 and 2020, I remain optimistic about Sydney’s prospects.

If they win even one of those two close matches, then they’re sitting right on the cusp of the eight with a good run over the next month, and they’ve still got to get a few players back.

The thrashing at the hands of the Cats in round six was alarming because it appeared to be effort-based. But from what I saw on the weekend against Collingwood, who are premiership favourites, the Swans aren’t going that badly.

One issue, however, is their depth, which I do question. I think if you look at their emergencies each week, it shows their depth is massively lacking. I think when they are missing three or four players, they end up calling on players who just aren’t up to it. If they’ve got their best 25 available, they are as dangerous as anyone, but if they start picking past 25, the discrepancy in performance leads to a substantial drop-off.

They aren’t going to get players from outside their top 22 coming in and having big games.

I think to an extent, the Swans might have arrived last year ahead of their time. On grand final day last year, Sydney was almost three years younger on average than Geelong. Against the Magpies last weekend, the Swans were on average not far from two years the younger side; and even that figure is skewed by Sydney fielding a 36-year-old in Lance Franklin.

So, it is not necessarily disastrous if the Swans end up needing to step back this year to take a couple forward over the next season or two.

The leadership group will be having robust but calm discussions around what’s going on.

The coaches will be getting together and delivering to the leadership group what they’ve been seeing, and vice versa. Players would be walking out the door on Monday very clear on what is expected of them for the next week and that’s as far as they would be looking.

When things aren’t going well, John Longmire remains measured. He may look animated in the box but when he’s delivering a message to the players, it’s always cool, calm and collected.*

I think the player they are missing the most is Hickey. He’s been unbelievable since he arrived. I think he single-handedly changed that midfield, turning them from an average midfield into a star midfield. The sooner he is back performing, the better.

Sydney has three of its next four games at home and the sole away match in that block is against lowly North Melbourne. While the margin for error isn’t huge, this is not yet a lost cause of a season for a club that rarely misses the eight
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Good article/observations IMO.
* If that's not an opening for GUH I don't know what is.
 
Interesting article from Steve Johnson on where the Swans are at (from yesterday);

Few takeaways;

.....having worked at the club between 2018 and 2020, I remain optimistic about Sydney’s prospects.

If they win even one of those two close matches, then they’re sitting right on the cusp of the eight with a good run over the next month, and they’ve still got to get a few players back.

The thrashing at the hands of the Cats in round six was alarming because it appeared to be effort-based. But from what I saw on the weekend against Collingwood, who are premiership favourites, the Swans aren’t going that badly.

One issue, however, is their depth, which I do question. I think if you look at their emergencies each week, it shows their depth is massively lacking. I think when they are missing three or four players, they end up calling on players who just aren’t up to it. If they’ve got their best 25 available, they are as dangerous as anyone, but if they start picking past 25, the discrepancy in performance leads to a substantial drop-off.

They aren’t going to get players from outside their top 22 coming in and having big games.

I think to an extent, the Swans might have arrived last year ahead of their time. On grand final day last year, Sydney was almost three years younger on average than Geelong. Against the Magpies last weekend, the Swans were on average not far from two years the younger side; and even that figure is skewed by Sydney fielding a 36-year-old in Lance Franklin.

So, it is not necessarily disastrous if the Swans end up needing to step back this year to take a couple forward over the next season or two.

The leadership group will be having robust but calm discussions around what’s going on.

The coaches will be getting together and delivering to the leadership group what they’ve been seeing, and vice versa. Players would be walking out the door on Monday very clear on what is expected of them for the next week and that’s as far as they would be looking.

When things aren’t going well, John Longmire remains measured. He may look animated in the box but when he’s delivering a message to the players, it’s always cool, calm and collected.*

I think the player they are missing the most is Hickey. He’s been unbelievable since he arrived. I think he single-handedly changed that midfield, turning them from an average midfield into a star midfield. The sooner he is back performing, the better.

Sydney has three of its next four games at home and the sole away match in that block is against lowly North Melbourne. While the margin for error isn’t huge, this is not yet a lost cause of a season for a club that rarely misses the eight
.

Good article/observations IMO.
* If that's not an opening for GUH I don't know what is.
I agree regarding Hickey. The team looks way better with him in fit and firing.

Who would have thought when he came into the team as a secondary ruck to Natanui that he'd have such an impact?

Wonder how he'll go tomorrow.
 
I agree regarding Hickey. The team looks way better with him in fit and firing.

Who would have thought when he came into the team as a secondary ruck to Natanui that he'd have such an impact?

Wonder how he'll go tomorrow.
Fit and firing is the problem though, not sure he's either.
Otherwise I agree with you, straightens us up through the middle.
 
Fit and firing is the problem though, not sure he's either.
Otherwise I agree with you, straightens us up through the middle.
Yeah totally.

I'm not saying Hickey is entirely the reason we lost the Grand Final, but an unfit Hickey definitely didn't help. We were basically playing two men down with him and Reid. We didn't have much choice though since Peter 'delicate' Ladhams got himself rubbed out.

I'm guilty of forgetting how important Hickey is to the side. So thanks Steve Johnson for the reminder. He was absolutely phenomenal in 2021. Made our midfield who didn't make the finals in 2020 look like a million bucks.
 

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Interesting article from Steve Johnson on where the Swans are at (from yesterday);

Few takeaways;

.....having worked at the club between 2018 and 2020, I remain optimistic about Sydney’s prospects.

If they win even one of those two close matches, then they’re sitting right on the cusp of the eight with a good run over the next month, and they’ve still got to get a few players back.

The thrashing at the hands of the Cats in round six was alarming because it appeared to be effort-based. But from what I saw on the weekend against Collingwood, who are premiership favourites, the Swans aren’t going that badly.

One issue, however, is their depth, which I do question. I think if you look at their emergencies each week, it shows their depth is massively lacking. I think when they are missing three or four players, they end up calling on players who just aren’t up to it. If they’ve got their best 25 available, they are as dangerous as anyone, but if they start picking past 25, the discrepancy in performance leads to a substantial drop-off.

They aren’t going to get players from outside their top 22 coming in and having big games.

I think to an extent, the Swans might have arrived last year ahead of their time. On grand final day last year, Sydney was almost three years younger on average than Geelong. Against the Magpies last weekend, the Swans were on average not far from two years the younger side; and even that figure is skewed by Sydney fielding a 36-year-old in Lance Franklin.

So, it is not necessarily disastrous if the Swans end up needing to step back this year to take a couple forward over the next season or two.

The leadership group will be having robust but calm discussions around what’s going on.

The coaches will be getting together and delivering to the leadership group what they’ve been seeing, and vice versa. Players would be walking out the door on Monday very clear on what is expected of them for the next week and that’s as far as they would be looking.

When things aren’t going well, John Longmire remains measured. He may look animated in the box but when he’s delivering a message to the players, it’s always cool, calm and collected.*

I think the player they are missing the most is Hickey. He’s been unbelievable since he arrived. I think he single-handedly changed that midfield, turning them from an average midfield into a star midfield. The sooner he is back performing, the better.

Sydney has three of its next four games at home and the sole away match in that block is against lowly North Melbourne. While the margin for error isn’t huge, this is not yet a lost cause of a season for a club that rarely misses the eight
.

Good article/observations IMO.
* If that's not an opening for GUH I don't know what is.
As i posted last year , we are set for 24/25
 

Waste of a supporters time.
I couldn't care less of token interviews or pressers from our club without hearing some truths.

It's all feel good at our club but when we walk away from our games, this supporter doesn't feel good.
Something's terribly wrong.
Here is some truth about our club that many of us all questioned over the off season.


“The mistake that they made was not any significant changes to their list in the off-season,”
“All of the teams that we’re speaking about at the top end of the tree in Geelong and Melbourne and Collingwood and Brisbane, they all made improvements to their list in the off-season, Sydney didn’t do that.

“They didn’t improve their list and the other top teams did and I think that has been a difference for them.”
With no significant additions to the list, injuries form struggles have stood out noticeably in the early goings of the season.

From Kane Cornes.
 
Waste of a supporters time.
I couldn't care less of token interviews or pressers from our club without hearing some truths.

It's all feel good at our club but when we walk away from our games, this supporter doesn't feel good.
Something's terribly wrong.
Here is some truth about our club that many of us all questioned over the off season.


“The mistake that they made was not any significant changes to their list in the off-season,”
“All of the teams that we’re speaking about at the top end of the tree in Geelong and Melbourne and Collingwood and Brisbane, they all made improvements to their list in the off-season, Sydney didn’t do that.

“They didn’t improve their list and the other top teams did and I think that has been a difference for them.”
With no significant additions to the list, injuries form struggles have stood out noticeably in the early goings of the season.

From Kane Cornes.
Spot on

We sat on our hands and did nothing
 
Waste of a supporters time.
I couldn't care less of token interviews or pressers from our club without hearing some truths.

It's all feel good at our club but when we walk away from our games, this supporter doesn't feel good.
Something's terribly wrong.
Here is some truth about our club that many of us all questioned over the off season.


“The mistake that they made was not any significant changes to their list in the off-season,”
“All of the teams that we’re speaking about at the top end of the tree in Geelong and Melbourne and Collingwood and Brisbane, they all made improvements to their list in the off-season, Sydney didn’t do that.

“They didn’t improve their list and the other top teams did and I think that has been a difference for them.”
With no significant additions to the list, injuries form struggles have stood out noticeably in the early goings of the season.

From Kane Cornes.
Sorry Ted but that is rubbish.

For starters if anyone is going to speak critically and authentically on where things are going wrong at the club, it should be the coaches and leaders. One of our kids being put up for the weekly presser shouldn't be tasked with that. It was light-hearted and optimistic. That is all I want from a Chad Warner presser, understanding tbat he is not Horse or Harley or Dane Rampe.

Second, it's a fine line deciding to be open about where things are going wrong. Give the media (and opposition analysts undoubtedly listening) a sniff of the areas where things are dysfunctional and they'll only think of more ways to exploit them.

And finally, regarding our lack of traded-in improvements, I don't think that's why we've gone off track this year. A Darcy Moore at full back, Josh Dunkley in the midfield or Jack Gunston at full forward wouldn't change the unfortunate fact that not one player who was already in the team has improved on their performances from last year so far.
 
I find it hard that a contested consistent Dunkley wouldn’t help our midfield or the leadership of Moore and how he is wouldn’t help a defence with no leadership
No one is saying they wouldn't but Moore wanted to stay in Melbourne what the hell do you expect the club to do about that. It's a useless statemen that ignores a players right to choose, and that's where the power lays now.
 
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