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Sydney under Longmire
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- Apr 18, 2005
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Sydney continuously stays competitive. It’s that whole Geelong, Hawthorn thing. They dip in and out but quickly rebuild to have another crack. They’ve got a lot of talent.
Hawthorn are not a great example. They haven’t won a final since 2015 and haven’t made finals in 5 years.
Beveridge has had one losing season in 9 seasons and has made finals 6 times, if we’re making the comparison.
So that doesn’t really explain why Longmire doesn’t face scrutiny. If they’re so talented surely they’d back up their GF appearance.
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Let’s have this conversation if/when they beat Carlton. I’d argue for a side that got buried last year in the GF they’ve backed up very well. Hawthorn typically wins a flag every decade. They’re a great example and are on the way to being seriously good by about 2026-2028.
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well they at least made finals in 2023
No passion or fire or emotion at full time. Didn't get out onto the ground to give his opponent a send-off. Quite simply does he care enough to get Sydney over the line? When is he going to start behaving like the proven elite and irreplaceable coaches in the competition?
Let it go.
sherb
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Five grand finals in 14 seasons is some achievement.
The fact that he has lost 3 of the 4 the Swans have made to date under his stewardship is the downside.
The fact that he has lost 3 of the 4 the Swans have made to date under his stewardship is the downside.
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Sydney have had 3 coaches in the last 28 years. 2 in the last 22. I think that is a big part of their success. Pick the right man and then stick with him.
Longmire could go 20 or 30 years if he wins this year. That kind of institutional consistency is priceless
Longmire could go 20 or 30 years if he wins this year. That kind of institutional consistency is priceless
beez
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Supporters of successful clubs never appreciate all the wins along the way. The great H&A wins, rocking up knowing your team is going to win against a bottom club, the myriad great finals wins, the absolute joy of winning the prelim.
Supporters are way too selfish. Especially supporters who think a coach should be sacked because they've lost a couple of grand finals. The grass isn't always greener.
Supporters are way too selfish. Especially supporters who think a coach should be sacked because they've lost a couple of grand finals. The grass isn't always greener.
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Umpire loss. I don't wish that upon my worst enemy.
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Say that to Port fans when it comes to Hinkley lol
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Srsly? 3 or 4 losses in what, 50 years? SMH yet another reason you can't be a Pie ( I believe your teeth are in too good condition as well).
Sydney fans on their way to complain about umpires affecting Grand Finals
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Will be interesting how Sydney fans react to Longmire if they lose yet another GF.
They were savage towards him after the 2022 GF.
They were savage towards him after the 2022 GF.
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With good reason. He played an injured Sam Reid and left out Logan McDonald.
As long as it isn't a blowout again I'll be reasonably happy.
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Has the midfield changed since the 2022 AFL Grand final?
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The biggest change is the addition of Heeney and Grundy.
Up until this season Heeney had been played out of position in our forward line. Now he's playing in his natural position in the guts. In 2022 cats mids dominated and Heeney couldn't get a touch in our forwardline.
In 2022 we had a ruck (Hickey) who was playing injured and couldn't even jump. Grundy is a massive upgrade.
In 2022 we also had Ryan Clarke as a midfield tagger. James Jordon is a massive, massive upgrade.
Parker and Mills are no longer starting mids. Parker has been pushed out of our midfield and is playing primarily forward. Additionally Mills has been playing in defense.
I'm probably missing something but those are the changes that pop in my head.
Grundy wasn't that great last night but the midfield makes him look better than say in 2018 when he struggled because the opposition's mids were better. Sweet, a discard was more than competitive against him last night. Heeney agree though, he has lifted a cog since his forgettable finals series 2 years ago.
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Just in my view of course but I think Hickey stunk it up in 2022. He literally couldn't jump due to a bung knee and lost a couple of ruck contests to Tom Hawkins FFS and it resulted in 2 goals. It really handed momentum to the cats in the first quarter.
Grundy, as limited as you think he is now, only needs to be semi-competent to be an upgrade on Hickey in the 2022 Grand Final. All he needs to do is jump. That's it. Just jump.
I think I saw a stat last night saying that Geelong are leagues number 1 team in goals from stoppages? If that's true then it'll make Grundy's role more interesting.
Since 2022 we've also seen the emergence of McLean as a secondary ruckman. So he'll definitely come in handy.
I think a game between Geelong and Swans won't be as one-sided as 2022 as we've improved on a lot of areas since then. Better ruck, tagger, midfield (Including getting a more unpredictable forward line since the retirement of Buddy). Our defense is probably a bit weaker though since the retirement of Paddy McCartin. But Melican is a decent replacement.
Swans will go in with an extra days break, the $50000 extra to help interstate sides, and the memory of 2022 burning in their minds. I'm quietly confident.
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