Preview The 2022 Pre Season Training Official Thread

[kick it to me_]

Moose, talks a bit about the doedee incident



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[SuperBashBros]

Crows internal trial last year was on 19th Feb.

Not far away. Hopefully club announce something similar again this year. Would be great to watch.

 

[DJ75]

Can confirm that Josh has tested positive for Covid. He went home for 4 days and then after he returned, found out his brother was positive. He lives with a host family and Cook.

 

[kick it to me_]

Can confirm that Josh has tested positive for Covid. He went home for 4 days and then after he returned, found out his brother was positive. He lives with a host family and Cook.

I thought that was the case. Thanks for the update.

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[ams4crows]

Better news than injury but still pretty unlucky

 

[TryAnHit]

Can confirm that Josh has tested positive for Covid. He went home for 4 days and then after he returned, found out his brother was positive. He lives with a host family and Cook.

Good to get it out the way before the season

 

[DJ75]

Can also shed some light on Tom's concussion. Flew in a marking contest, copped an elbow and was out cold before he hit the ground. Face planted.
Has a few grazes from hitting the ground, but no ongoing symptoms.

 

[kick it to me_]

Channel 7 news just said seedsman unlikely for round 1.

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[MRB37]

Channel 7 news just said seedsman unlikely for round 1.

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It'd be impossible to put any sort of timeline on him I imagine, but the way he's been recovering you'd think it's not something that will magically just disappear by Round 1.

Longer it goes the more it feels like he'll be another Sam Shaw.

 

[1970crow]

View attachment 1321125How is this the body of a first year player?
Impressive!

Left foot checkside. Not sure his natural leg though.

 

[1970crow]

Channel 7 news just said seedsman unlikely for round 1.

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That's a bloody early call on a concussion. Really concerning.

 

[Crow till I die]

That's a bloody early call on a concussion. Really concerning.

take no risks whatsoever with that sort of ailment and give him as long as needed to see if he can overcome it. Its about long term health

 

[1990crow]

It'd be impossible to put any sort of timeline on him I imagine, but the way he's been recovering you'd think it's not something that will magically just disappear by Round 1.

Longer it goes the more it feels like he'll be another Sam Shaw.

Pretty sad after his last season. Shit luck.

 

[Betts are off]

That's made my day, thank you guys! Just trying to contribute.

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Mate you're a jet, we love your work in here.

Find me I'd you ever want to catch up for a pint and a pow-wow about the Crowies

 

[kick it to me_]

Mate you're a jet, we love your work in here.

Find me I'd you ever want to catch up for a pint and a pow-wow about the Crowies

Thanks mate, always up for a beer.

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[Apsaalooke]

Dawson
He kick a beautiful running goal, and one of the players called it Elite. Think that's the best way to describe him. Looks like a very complete player to me and his kicking is obviously his weapon. He took Murray out to sheppard him off the ball at one stage. Murray is a decent lump of a lad and he performed ok in the midfield drill that's something that has suprised me. Imagine hes going to develop inside of his game. At one stage pioted and switched play to the far side with a beautiful kick, I couldn't see the finish but a mark was called. If he can switch play that quickly it's going to be a nightmare of opposition teams to defend.


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So we effectively got Dawson and Pick 33 for Pick 23 and some rubbish late picks that we didn't want.
Say what you like about our Recruiting Staff (Gallucci, McAsey etc) but there's nothing wrong with our Maths Department

 

[Torpedro]

So we effectively got Dawson and Pick 33 for Pick 23 and some rubbish late picks that we didn't want.
Say what you like about our Recruiting Staff (Gallucci, McAsey etc) but there's nothing wrong with our Maths Department

Since the inception of live trading in 2018, our pick trading has been top notch.

 

[Mego Red]

So we effectively got Dawson and Pick 33 for Pick 23 and some rubbish late picks that we didn't want.
Say what you like about our Recruiting Staff (Gallucci, McAsey etc) but there's nothing wrong with our Maths Department

We got a first round, a second round and a late pick for two second rounds and late picks.

It was really excellent work.

 

[kick it to me_]

Went to write this post awhile ago and after going through it doesn't really tell us anything we dont already know, put I'll post it anyway to start some conversation, as in the Luko and rankine thread there's some discussion around the 50 game mark.

I wanted to show where we can possibly expect to see some improvement on our list this year 2022 and the following year 2023.

Its about the games into players in our team. It always gets thrown around that it takes about around 50 games for a player to come on.

This is a little extract from a Matthew Llyod article in the Age from 2014.

Some things that are said during a football journey stick in your mind forever. In one of my first conversations with Kevin Sheedy, he said: "It is not until you reach 50 games that you have really made it as an AFL player."

Sheeds said that it is around this time that you really start to believe that you belong among the players you grew up idolising. It is also a time in your career in which expectations on you start growing, not only from the coaching staff but also the media

The biggest spike in a player’s performance is usually between 50 to 100 games, because you are accustomed to the experiences of match day, you have a greater fitness base and you've had several summers in the gymnasium building your strength

Not a perfect science but I've definitely see it a number of times, Keays and Milera from recent memory.

So with that, here's a list below of games played on our list.

I've marked who I think is in our best 22 or close to it with a star. Could probably just done everyone.

EP Established players for over 45-50 games
SP for Seniors Players over 95-100 games

I've add 22 possible games to there tally. Yes I know its impossible for everyone to get 22 games, just take this as a guide.

*Sam Berry 17 - (2022-39) (2023-61 EP)
James Borlase 0
*Luke Brown 178 - SP
*Jordon Butts 24 (2022-46~EP) (2023-68 EP)
*Brayden Cook 3 (2022-25) (2023-47~ EP)
*Matt Crouch 125 - SP
Ben Davis 6
*Jordan Dawson 64 - EP (2022-86 Ep) (2023-108 SP)
*Tom Doedee 51 EP (2022-73 EP) (2023-95~SP)
*Darcy Fogarty 40 (2022-62 EP) (2023-84 EP)
Billy Frampton 18
Lachlan Gollant 1
*Will Hamill 25 (2022-47~EP) (2023-69 EP)
Jackson Hately 16
*Elliott Himmelberg 27 (2022-49~EP) (2023-71 EP)
*Mitchell Hinge 4
*Chayce Jones 37 (2022- 59 EP) (2023-81 EP)
*Ben Keays 68 EP (2022- 90 EP) (2023-112 SP)
*Rory Laird 182 SP
*Shane McAdam 28 (2022-50 EP) (2023-72 EP)
Fischer McAsey 10
*Ned McHenry 29 (2022-51 EP) (2023-73 EP)
*Andrew McPherson 25 (2022- 47~EP)
*Wayne Milera 62 EP (2022-84 Ep) (2022-106 SP)
*Lachlan Murphy 59 EP (2022-81 Ep) (2022-103 SP)
*Nick Murray 10 (2022-32) (2023-56 EP)
Luke Nankervis 0
*Tariek Newchurch (2022-22) (2023-44)
*Reilly O'Brien 57 EP (2022-79 Ep) (2023-101 SP)
Patrick Parnell 0
*Luke Pedlar 2 (2022-26) (2023-46~EP)
*Josh Rachele 0 (2022-22) (2023-44)
*James Rowe 18 (2022-26) (2023-46~EP)
*Harry Schoenberg 30 (2022-52 EP) (2023-74 EP)
*Paul Seedsman 132 - SP
*Lachlan Sholl 26 (2022-48~EP) (2023-70)
*Rory Sloane 229 - SP
*Brodie Smith 204 - SP
Jake Soligo 0
*Kieran Strachan 3 (2022-25) (2023-47~EP)
Zac Taylor 0
*Riley Thilthorpe 14 (2022-36) (2023-58 EP)
*Taylor Walker 220 - SP

The ones to watch for
2022
Butts, fogarty, Hamill, Himmelberg, Jones, mcadam, McHenry, McPherson, Schoenberg, Sholl

Names I feel like we would all be expecting to see.
Schoenberg, Jones, Hamill, McHenry reckon we will see it.
Forgarty, mcadam, Himmelberg it's time to see it.

2023
Berry, Cook, Murray, Pedlar, Rowe, Strachan, Thilthorpe

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[AFC979810]

The ones to watch for
2022
Butts, fogarty, Hamill, Himmelberg, Jones, mcadam, McHenry, McPherson, Schoenberg, Sholl

Names I feel like we would all be expecting to see.
Schoenberg, Jones, Hamill, McHenry reckon we will see it.
Forgarty, mcadam, Himmelberg it's time to see it.

2023
Berry, Cook, Murray, Pedlar, Rowe, Strachan, Thilthorpe

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Sholl is the one I am really interested in. Played a couple of really nice games and I think at his best could be a really damaging player.

 

[Truck25]

Went to write this post awhile ago and after going through it doesn't really tell us anything we dont already know, put I'll post it anyway to start some conversation, as in the Luko and rankine thread there's some discussion around the 50 game mark.

I wanted to show where we can possibly expect to see some improvement on our list this year 2022 and the following year 2023.

Its about the games into players in our team. It always gets thrown around that it takes about around 50 games for a player to come on.

This is a little extract from a Matthew Llyod article in the Age from 2014.

Some things that are said during a football journey stick in your mind forever. In one of my first conversations with Kevin Sheedy, he said: "It is not until you reach 50 games that you have really made it as an AFL player."

Sheeds said that it is around this time that you really start to believe that you belong among the players you grew up idolising. It is also a time in your career in which expectations on you start growing, not only from the coaching staff but also the media

The biggest spike in a player’s performance is usually between 50 to 100 games, because you are accustomed to the experiences of match day, you have a greater fitness base and you've had several summers in the gymnasium building your strength

Not a perfect science but I've definitely see it a number of times, Keays and Milera from recent memory.

So with that, here's a list below of games played on our list.

I've marked who I think is in our best 22 or close to it with a star. Could probably just done everyone.

EP Established players for over 45-50 games
SP for Seniors Players over 95-100 games

I've add 22 possible games to there tally. Yes I know its impossible for everyone to get 22 games, just take this as a guide.

*Sam Berry 17 - (2022-39) (2023-61 EP)
James Borlase 0
*Luke Brown 178 - SP
*Jordon Butts 24 (2022-46~EP) (2023-68 EP)
*Brayden Cook 3 (2022-25) (2023-47~ EP)
*Matt Crouch 125 - SP
Ben Davis 6
*Jordan Dawson 64 - EP (2022-86 Ep) (2023-108 SP)
*Tom Doedee 51 EP (2022-73 EP) (2023-95~SP)
*Darcy Fogarty 40 (2022-62 EP) (2023-84 EP)
Billy Frampton 18
Lachlan Gollant 1
*Will Hamill 25 (2022-47~EP) (2023-69 EP)
Jackson Hately 16
*Elliott Himmelberg 27 (2022-49~EP) (2023-71 EP)
*Mitchell Hinge 4
*Chayce Jones 37 (2022- 59 EP) (2023-81 EP)
*Ben Keays 68 EP (2022- 90 EP) (2023-112 SP)
*Rory Laird 182 SP
*Shane McAdam 28 (2022-50 EP) (2023-72 EP)
Fischer McAsey 10
*Ned McHenry 29 (2022-51 EP) (2023-73 EP)
*Andrew McPherson 25 (2022- 47~EP)
*Wayne Milera 62 EP (2022-84 Ep) (2022-106 SP)
*Lachlan Murphy 59 EP (2022-81 Ep) (2022-103 SP)
*Nick Murray 10 (2022-32) (2023-56 EP)
Luke Nankervis 0
*Tariek Newchurch (2022-22) (2023-44)
*Reilly O'Brien 57 EP (2022-79 Ep) (2023-101 SP)
Patrick Parnell 0
*Luke Pedlar 2 (2022-26) (2023-46~EP)
*Josh Rachele 0 (2022-22) (2023-44)
*James Rowe 18 (2022-26) (2023-46~EP)
*Harry Schoenberg 30 (2022-52 EP) (2023-74 EP)
*Paul Seedsman 132 - SP
*Lachlan Sholl 26 (2022-48~EP) (2023-70)
*Rory Sloane 229 - SP
*Brodie Smith 204 - SP
Jake Soligo 0
*Kieran Strachan 3 (2022-25) (2023-47~EP)
Zac Taylor 0
*Riley Thilthorpe 14 (2022-36) (2023-58 EP)
*Taylor Walker 220 - SP

The ones to watch for
2022
Butts, fogarty, Hamill, Himmelberg, Jones, mcadam, McHenry, McPherson, Schoenberg, Sholl

Names I feel like we would all be expecting to see.
Schoenberg, Jones, Hamill, McHenry reckon we will see it.
Forgarty, mcadam, Himmelberg it's time to see it.

2023
Berry, Cook, Murray, Pedlar, Rowe, Strachan, Thilthorpe

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So what you are saying is, team growth '22, established by '23, contend in '24, Premiership '25!! I'll take that

 

[CroCop]

Chopped his mullet though?yes he did chop his mullet . Saw him having dinner at Concubine last Saturday with MCHenry, Frampton, Hinge and their ladies.

 

[Mutineer]

Sholl is the one I am really interested in. Played a couple of really nice games and I think at his best could be a really damaging player.

Struggled big time when teams started to put time into him when they realised the damage he could do by foot if allowed to run around like an unregistered dog. I'm interested to see if he's capable of working through this with the extra attention he will likely keep getting from Oppo teams now they've worked out his influence can be easily curbed.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Went to write this post awhile ago and after going through it doesn't really tell us anything we dont already know, put I'll post it anyway to start some conversation, as in the Luko and rankine thread there's some discussion around the 50 game mark.

I wanted to show where we can possibly expect to see some improvement on our list this year 2022 and the following year 2023.

Its about the games into players in our team. It always gets thrown around that it takes about around 50 games for a player to come on.

This is a little extract from a Matthew Llyod article in the Age from 2014.

Some things that are said during a football journey stick in your mind forever. In one of my first conversations with Kevin Sheedy, he said: "It is not until you reach 50 games that you have really made it as an AFL player."

Sheeds said that it is around this time that you really start to believe that you belong among the players you grew up idolising. It is also a time in your career in which expectations on you start growing, not only from the coaching staff but also the media

The biggest spike in a player’s performance is usually between 50 to 100 games, because you are accustomed to the experiences of match day, you have a greater fitness base and you've had several summers in the gymnasium building your strength

Not a perfect science but I've definitely see it a number of times, Keays and Milera from recent memory.

So with that, here's a list below of games played on our list.

I've marked who I think is in our best 22 or close to it with a star. Could probably just done everyone.

EP Established players for over 45-50 games
SP for Seniors Players over 95-100 games

I've add 22 possible games to there tally. Yes I know its impossible for everyone to get 22 games, just take this as a guide.

*Sam Berry 17 - (2022-39) (2023-61 EP)
James Borlase 0
*Luke Brown 178 - SP
*Jordon Butts 24 (2022-46~EP) (2023-68 EP)
*Brayden Cook 3 (2022-25) (2023-47~ EP)
*Matt Crouch 125 - SP
Ben Davis 6
*Jordan Dawson 64 - EP (2022-86 Ep) (2023-108 SP)
*Tom Doedee 51 EP (2022-73 EP) (2023-95~SP)
*Darcy Fogarty 40 (2022-62 EP) (2023-84 EP)
Billy Frampton 18
Lachlan Gollant 1
*Will Hamill 25 (2022-47~EP) (2023-69 EP)
Jackson Hately 16
*Elliott Himmelberg 27 (2022-49~EP) (2023-71 EP)
*Mitchell Hinge 4
*Chayce Jones 37 (2022- 59 EP) (2023-81 EP)
*Ben Keays 68 EP (2022- 90 EP) (2023-112 SP)
*Rory Laird 182 SP
*Shane McAdam 28 (2022-50 EP) (2023-72 EP)
Fischer McAsey 10
*Ned McHenry 29 (2022-51 EP) (2023-73 EP)
*Andrew McPherson 25 (2022- 47~EP)
*Wayne Milera 62 EP (2022-84 Ep) (2022-106 SP)
*Lachlan Murphy 59 EP (2022-81 Ep) (2022-103 SP)
*Nick Murray 10 (2022-32) (2023-56 EP)
Luke Nankervis 0
*Tariek Newchurch (2022-22) (2023-44)
*Reilly O'Brien 57 EP (2022-79 Ep) (2023-101 SP)
Patrick Parnell 0
*Luke Pedlar 2 (2022-26) (2023-46~EP)
*Josh Rachele 0 (2022-22) (2023-44)
*James Rowe 18 (2022-26) (2023-46~EP)
*Harry Schoenberg 30 (2022-52 EP) (2023-74 EP)
*Paul Seedsman 132 - SP
*Lachlan Sholl 26 (2022-48~EP) (2023-70)
*Rory Sloane 229 - SP
*Brodie Smith 204 - SP
Jake Soligo 0
*Kieran Strachan 3 (2022-25) (2023-47~EP)
Zac Taylor 0
*Riley Thilthorpe 14 (2022-36) (2023-58 EP)
*Taylor Walker 220 - SP

The ones to watch for
2022
Butts, fogarty, Hamill, Himmelberg, Jones, mcadam, McHenry, McPherson, Schoenberg, Sholl

Names I feel like we would all be expecting to see.
Schoenberg, Jones, Hamill, McHenry reckon we will see it.
Forgarty, mcadam, Himmelberg it's time to see it.

2023
Berry, Cook, Murray, Pedlar, Rowe, Strachan, Thilthorpe

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I’m a huge believer in the 50 game theory. Great breakdown.

 

[kick it to me_]

Sholl is the one I am really interested in. Played a couple of really nice games and I think at his best could be a really damaging player.

Offensively looks damaging, defensively I see issues. I hate players that can't stick a tackle, and he doesn't look great in one on one contest. His form feel off the end of the year, from what is sounds like he over work himself preseason. Nothing he can't develop on this year, and he looked Silky in match sim.

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