List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Drafted

• Bo Allan - Pick 16
• Jobe Shanahan - Pick 30
• Tom Gross - Pick 46
• Lucca Grego - Pick 48
• Hamish Davis - Pick 65
• Malakai Champion - Cat B

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• One on either main OR rookie list to be filled as a SSP selection following train on assessments

Trade and draft period

In: F1, F2, F3, Baker, Owies, Graham, Allan, Shanahan, Gross, Grego, Davis, Champion
Out: 3, 63, F3, F4, Barrass, Darling

 

[ronpingwins]

LATE MAIL: The WA duo in West Coast’s sights for Pick 30

The Eagles will have the third pick once this afternoon’s second round gets underway - so who are they eyeing? Get up to speed with all the last-minute whispers here.

thewest.com.au

Anyone have access?

https://archive.md/ogSTg

Davis and Boxshall

 

[UseR2006]

https://archive.md/ogSTg

Davis and Boxshall

Reads to me if if shanahan is there we'll take him otherwise it's boxshall

 

[mattyc75]

I would have thought that most of the elite KPDs would have been drafted as KPF.

It can definitely happen but if you've drafted a KPF who has then become a KPD then you've probably used a higher pick than you needed to

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[pantskyle]

Eagles need to turn away from the WA talent with our next pick.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

In this case. We got him for the right price and Fremantle got an absolute steal with Reid.

Live reaction shot of Reid being drafted by an interstate team.

 

[Ghossein]

https://archive.md/ogSTg

Davis and Boxshall

Boxshall predicted to go that early?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Reads to me if if shanahan is there we'll take him otherwise it's boxshall

So who are Freo chasing with 34?



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[new breed]

Tom Gross might be the player at pick 30 , another midfielder ( too many now ) but was ranked in the top ten earlier in the year .

Dennis has had two foot injuries in last two years ...Collingwood very keen with picks in the 40s .

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Eagles need to turn away from the WA talent with our next pick.

I agree. Shanahan the best key left and Moraes and gross the best mids left. We get one of the three.

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[Wooshaaaa]

Tom Gross might be the player at pick 30 , another midfielder ( too many now ) but was ranked in the top ten earlier in the year .

Dennis has had two foot injuries in last two years ...Collingwood very keen with picks in the 40s .

Pies don't have a pick until 45. They don't have collateral to trade up. We can get him at 44.

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[eagles rule]

Disappointed in leaving home was my read. His Dad snapped out of it and gave a good account of himself, but when the initial announcement happened, you could tell the doctor just told them they had cancer.

Reid looked disappointed that Richmond took Hotten before him and was hoping no one picked him before the Tigers next pick ..Was my Read after hearing his dad say they were big Tigers fans ..
Or not ****ing Freo


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[garlic munchers]

So with 1st night wrapped...... can safely say WC exited with its pants still done up, whilst Bombers and Roos found themselves leaning fwd with theirs firmly around their respective ankles.

Bravo WC - Never been so happy to be fully clothed (particularly after the trade period)!

 

[new breed]

So who are Freo chasing with 34?



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Small forward from country Victoria , Sam Toner

Pies don't have a pick until 45. They don't have collateral to trade up. We can get him at 44.

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Recurring foot injury is a concern but he is impressive , worth the risk .

 

[Monocle]

I'm not a fan of taking a KPF and really can't see why we are linked to him.
Picking a KPF with the plan of turning him into a KPD when there are some well performed KPDS still on the board makes no sense to me.
The way it's looking there'll be some good talent at that position even after our first pick on night 2
Also I'd quite like to draft curtin next year and would be quite happy to give jamo, barnett and bazzo next season to show what they can do

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Thanks for taking time to reply.

What you have explained is why you are reluctant to take a KPF.

But what you haven’t done is outline Shanahan’ s playing strengths and weaknesses.

A couple of questions.

1. Are you aware that he has played as a KPD previously.

2. Have you forgotten that our last two premiership KPD - Tommy ( Turn Coat ) Barrass and Jeremy McGovern, both played as forwards in the years before they were drafted.
As did Glen Jackovich.

3. Last question - do you think we are light on KPD on our list ?

Now having played in all of the KPP down the spine myself I can tell you it’s much easier to play as a key defender than it is a key forward.

Secondly in my experience as a coach both at Colts level in WA and TAC level in Melbourne, I successfully flipped several KPF into quality KPD.

Simply put if you can play as a KPF you can play as a KPD.

My opinion is that Shanahan has a lot of very good afl traits to his game, and his leading patterns are high quality and that is a part of the game that is harder to teach a young kid, if it doesn’t come naturally.
There is a lot of similarities IMO in the way he plays and leads, that remind me of Josh Kennedy.

Now before I get comments that he is not as good as JK, hold fire I said leads like.

Our side needs improved quality on EVERY line, so the “ we already have one of them “ line of thinking is IMO flawed.

Any side simple can’t have too many quality footballers.

Just my two cents worth.

 

[mattyc75]

Thanks for taking time to reply.

What you have explained is why you are reluctant to take a KPF.

But what you haven’t done is outline Shanahan’ s playing strengths and weaknesses.

A couple of questions.

1. Are you aware that he has played as a KPD previously.

2. Have you forgotten that our last two premiership KPD - Tommy ( Turn Coat Barrass and Jeremy McGovern, both played as forwards in the years before they were drafted.
As did Glen Jackovich.

3. Last question - do you think we are light on KPD on our list ?

Now having played in all of the KPP down the spine myself I can tell you it’s much easier to play as a key defender than it is a key forward.

Secondly in my experience as a coach both at Colts level in WA and TAC level in Melbourne, I successfully flipped several KPF into quality KPD.

Simply put if you can play as a KPF you can play as a KPD.

My opinion is that Shanahan has a lot of very good afl traits to his game, and his leading patterns are high quality and that is a art of the game is harder to teach a young kid if it doesn’t come naturally.
There is a lot of similarities IMO in the way he plays and leads, that remind me of Josh Kennedy.

Now before I get comments that he is not as good as JK, hold fine I said leads like.

Our side needs improved quality on EVERY line, so the “ we already have one of them “ line of thinking is IMO flawed.

Any side simple can’t have too many quality footballers.

Just my two cents worth.

Why do you think the eagles have been linked to shanahan from pick 12? Was it as a kpd or kpf?

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[CountryLad]

“I’m quite raw in that area still but so keen to get to work in the midfield.

“For now, I would be more confident down back, but that doesn’t mean I’m not willing and able to grow in the midfield.”

That’s a quote from Bo Allan in the article West Coast just posted

Really hope he or Ginbey can become genuine midfielders or at least one of them.

It’s not that big an issue in my mind. Next year we either bring in Warner or Rodriguez. We still have Hall in his second year and realistically so is Hewett.

Probably grab another mid tonight and we have two first round selections next year plus there will still be opportunities when Tassie come in. Okay they will be heavily compromised drafts but there will still be options to add midfield depth by either trading or drafting.

 

[ghostbat12]

Thanks for taking time to reply.

What you have explained is why you are reluctant to take a KPF.

But what you haven’t done is outline Shanahan’ s playing strengths and weaknesses.

A couple of questions.

1. Are you aware that he has played as a KPD previously.

2. Have you forgotten that our last two premiership KPD - Tommy ( Turn Coat ) Barrass and Jeremy McGovern, both played as forwards in the years before they were drafted.
As did Glen Jackovich.

3. Last question - do you think we are light on KPD on our list ?

Now having played in all of the KPP down the spine myself I can tell you it’s much easier to play as a key defender than it is a key forward.

Secondly in my experience as a coach both at Colts level in WA and TAC level in Melbourne, I successfully flipped several KPF into quality KPD.

Simply put if you can play as a KPF you can play as a KPD.

My opinion is that Shanahan has a lot of very good afl traits to his game, and his leading patterns are high quality and that is a art of the game is harder to teach a young kid if it doesn’t come naturally.
There is a lot of similarities IMO in the way he plays and leads, that remind me of Josh Kennedy.

Now before I get comments that he is not as good as JK, hold fine I said leads like.

Our side needs improved quality on EVERY line, so the “ we already have one of them “ line of thinking is IMO flawed.

Any side simple can’t have too many quality footballers.

Just my two cents worth.

Know anyone who can successfully turn HBFers into midfielders?

 

[Bacchus]

The problem was people getting upset over a " half baked cake" and spitting the dummy before the cake was finished.

Now we haven't yet put layers, icing and the cherry on our 2024 draft cake and people are already much happier.

Warner the cherry?

 

[PRANKSTER666]

Just checking in to see if we have reached a consensus on who we are picking first up?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Eagles need to turn away from the WA talent with our next pick.

And pick a tall forward which we don't need ?

 

[ArdentEagle]

Bullies will take Moraes, I recon Tigers take Davis as he's different to anything they have.

McIntosh upgrade

 

[pantskyle]

And pick a tall forward which we don't need ?

Don't need today. Will need at some point.

 

[nameless]

And pick a tall forward which we don't need ?

Our list needs everything.

You don't ignore good talent with the list we have regardless of position.

Oscar consistently gets injured, Waterman has realistically had 1 good year, we just lost Darling following Kennedy retirement and our next best tall fwds in Archer Reid and JWilliams may not work out.

If all goes well up fwd you push Shanahan into defence to replace Barrass/Gov.

The feeling is that Shanahan is the clear best available talent still available and I say you take it!

 

[Bender_]

https://archive.md/ogSTg

Davis and Boxshall

I know I shouldn't be surprised with The West, but I know little about these 2 particular players and they don't even bother to identify their position/s. Just a poor effort.

 

[NSLK]

Thanks for taking time to reply.

What you have explained is why you are reluctant to take a KPF.

But what you haven’t done is outline Shanahan’ s playing strengths and weaknesses.

A couple of questions.

1. Are you aware that he has played as a KPD previously.

2. Have you forgotten that our last two premiership KPD - Tommy ( Turn Coat ) Barrass and Jeremy McGovern, both played as forwards in the years before they were drafted.
As did Glen Jackovich.

3. Last question - do you think we are light on KPD on our list ?

Now having played in all of the KPP down the spine myself I can tell you it’s much easier to play as a key defender than it is a key forward.

Secondly in my experience as a coach both at Colts level in WA and TAC level in Melbourne, I successfully flipped several KPF into quality KPD.

Simply put if you can play as a KPF you can play as a KPD.

My opinion is that Shanahan has a lot of very good afl traits to his game, and his leading patterns are high quality and that is a art of the game is harder to teach a young kid if it doesn’t come naturally.
There is a lot of similarities IMO in the way he plays and leads, that remind me of Josh Kennedy.

Now before I get comments that he is not as good as JK, hold fine I said leads like.

Our side needs improved quality on EVERY line, so the “ we already have one of them “ line of thinking is IMO flawed.

Any side simple can’t have too many quality footballers.

Just my two cents worth.

Who would make the better KPD in your opinion, Shanahan or A Reid? I've seen bugger all of either but Shanahan seems the more highly rated forward? I'm all for Shanahan as too good to pass up, but would love to have a crack at the Tigers first pick tonight to get another mid first. I have faith in our ability to develop a KPD from lower in the draft/rookie list.