killerspud
Premiership Player
- Aug 23, 2009
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A corporate scumbag preaching hate for profit. I'll bet that he and the directors of this "church" are getting serious money out of itHe’s a scumbag.
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A corporate scumbag preaching hate for profit. I'll bet that he and the directors of this "church" are getting serious money out of itHe’s a scumbag.
he did join “the scum” so what would you expect? mum used to say what do you expect from a pig but a grunt. My point was that he could have been excluded because of his appalling professional track record and that lack of governance and due diligence highlights how awful an organisation the scum truly are.He’s a scumbag.
Quite the conundrum, he’s been forced to resign due to his strong Christian faith, yet they preach inclusiveness of all types. Clearly they mean inclusiveness of all types that share the same faith and beliefs.
I wonder if they would have taken the same view if he held a strong Islamic faith. Isn’t that a faith that also shares the same views around same sex relationships and abortion?
Clearly their policy is very different to their actual position. Maybe they should just change their policy to better reflect their actual position. Something like “everyone bar people with strong faith based views and beliefs are welcome“
I wonder, if he was a heart or brain surgeon, if the same people asking for his resignation were in desperate need of heart or brain surgery, and he was the only surgeon available, if they would allow him to perform surgery to save their lives.
Quite the conundrum.
You forgot the former coaching director on meth trafficking charges and conspiring with bikies.If I am not mistaken, the injectors have the complete set?
Disgraced CEO with a record of crap governance, disgraced former coach involved with some more poor goverance (bloody spreadsheets) and a disgraced former Capt stripped of his league best & farest
You have to admire their consistency
You forgot the former coaching director on meth trafficking charges and conspiring with bikies.
Again - has nothing to do with his personal beliefs. He was a director of a church that had values that didn’t align with those of the football club. He was given the choice of which he wanted to remain a director/CEO of after this was discovered (because a bloke on Twitter was better at due diligence than the * football club) and he opted for the church.
Again - the 7 Manly players who were so aghast at wearing some coloured stripes on their jersey but have no issues with a betting company being stuck on it all season are still playing for Manly.
Also - if Thorburn was high up at the Uniting Church I’m sure this wouldn’t have been an issue because they’re a far more inclusive organisation. There are many people with strong religious faith who don’t hold the views of Thorburn’s particular organisation.
Nice invoking of Islam also. Something tells me if this was a Muslim CEO with the same views who was a director of his mosque you wouldn’t have written multiple paragraphs playing defence for him.
And the surgeon straw man wasn’t nearly as clever as you thought it was.
It had nothing to do with the fact he was appointed as an independent consultant to find a new CEO and miraculously found himself to be the best candidate?Nonsense, he was ousted for his beliefs. Plain and simple.
It’s not because of his privately held religious beliefs. It’s because he is the head of a vocal organisation that speaks out against gays and abortion. He hasn’t given up that role to take the Essendon gig. That is a clear and obvious conflict of interest. Incredible they didn’t pick this up before they hired him.Quite the conundrum, he’s been forced to resign due to his strong Christian faith, yet they preach inclusiveness of all types. Clearly they mean inclusiveness of all types that share the same faith and beliefs.
I wonder if they would have taken the same view if he held a strong Islamic faith. Isn’t that a faith that also shares the same views around same sex relationships and abortion?
Clearly their policy is very different to their actual position. Maybe they should just change their policy to better reflect their actual position. Something like “everyone bar people with strong faith based views and beliefs are welcome“
I wonder, if he was a heart or brain surgeon, if the same people asking for his resignation were in desperate need of heart or brain surgery, and he was the only surgeon available, if they would allow him to perform surgery to save their lives.
Quite the conundrum.
No, he was ousted for his beliefs? What part of that did they not make clear?It had nothing to do with the fact he was appointed as an independent consultant to find a new CEO and miraculously found himself to be the best candidate?
Yea, incredible that they didn’t ask him what his faith was before they hired himIt’s not because of his privately held religious beliefs. It’s because he is the head of a vocal organisation that speaks out against gays and abortion. He hasn’t given up that role to take the Essendon gig. That is a clear and obvious conflict of interest. Incredible they didn’t pick this up before they hired him.
Yea, incredible that they didn’t ask him what his faith was before they hired him
Nonsense, he was ousted for his beliefs. Plain and simple.
I'm trying to find the quote (Saw it on an instagram post) but Barham made the comment that they could not ask about religious beliefs in the interview, but when they came to light they had to act.
That was a bit of a wow statement in itself
Look I agree, I think it’s hilarious. It’s a case of 2 Bigots trying to outdo each other. Bigot 1 (EFC) don’t approve of Bigot (2) CEO‘s bigoted views.Well footy is a religion - and religious organisations are permitted to sack people with contrary beliefs, religious schools love to do it, so it’s all kosher.
Also breathtakingly poor because of the poor 'governance' issues that Essendon has had destroy it over the last decade.Again it’s a due diligence failure (with Essendon - I’m shocked to be typing here). Background checks aren’t hard, and the crazy ones I’ve had to go through for run of the mill jobs in finance are painful. Clearly the bloke who tweeted about it two days back which made it a story found it fairly easily on Google. So Barham’s due diligence on a CEO was ringing a handful of people who worked with him. That’s breathtakingly poor, particularly given the reasons Thorburn stood aside at NAB.
Barham honestly can’t survive this as he’s clearly inept.
Also breathtakingly poor because of the poor 'governance' issues that Essendon has had destroy it over the last decade.