List Mgmt. The Kelly and All Draft and Trades Discussion Thread- #freetim #ITSHAPPENING

[kerrazy]

Why, Dylan82 why?

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Also don’t think Kelly’s manager has handled things perfectly either, seems a bit of a tosser?

Kellys manager is just voicing tim and his wifes frustration .

People have no idea how hard autistic children are and the stress it puts on a family .

All they want is to be home surrounded by their support network

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

*and what the Eagles received for Lycett.

But yeah, unlike the AFL to make up rules on the run...

We would have got the same pick for gaff if he left as we would have for lycett .

We also go pick 37 for our 25 year old vice captain scott selwood .

Its just what the afl deem fair under each circumstance i suppose.

 

[Tugga27]

Everyone is forgetting that we also let Voss break his contract and leave for the lion (probably a blessing in disguise)

Pretty sure Voss had a "get out" clause on his contract like most assistant coaches.
If they get offered a senior coaching position, they can walk.

 

[Matera92]

Dylan with the greatest troll in board history.

 

[eaglespremiers]

looooooool we'd be bending Hawthorn over if we traded 24 and 33 for 11. No way in hell that happens.

Yep, seems more likely 2020 first rounder + 33 for pick 11.

 

[bzparkes]

wait, are you telling us.....




You use night mode?

Sooooo much better.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Yep, seems more likely 2020 first rounder + 33 for pick 11.

I just don’t get why they’d deal out pick 11 to us at all.

It’s not sounding likely that a bid will come for Maginness before that pick. At the moment they’ve also got picks 30 and 51. Those picks alone allow them to match any bid from pick 15 and beyond. Meaning if they hold 11, they’re a damn good chance of getting the 11th best kid in this draft and Maginness. Why throw that away to get some points they’re unlikely to need?

If things change in the leadup to the draft and it looks like he’s going to bolt into the top ten, there’s plenty of scope now for pick swaps before, and even the day of, the draft. Which won’t help us because the time for a trade for Kelly will have passed, but it’s not Hawthorn’s job to help us.

 

[Bestbird]

*and what the Eagles received for Lycett.

But yeah, unlike the AFL to make up rules on the run...

Think Lycett trade value was about right given he was a ruckman.

 

[squashface]

It just ****ing infuriates me to no end that every human being in the history of the AFL is allowed to request a club no questions asked but when Kelly asks to come to WC then he gets the: just go to Freo, it’s the same.

Joe Daniher wants to go Sydney? Fine
Jack Steven wants to go to Geelong? Cool
Paddy Ryder wants to go to St Kilda? Sounds good
Jonathon Patton wants to go to Hawthorn?
Easy
Brad Hill wants to go to St Kilda? No dramas
Tim Kelly wants to go to West Coast? Nah mate what do you mean? Freo is in the same State, **** you.


Honestly, **** the AFL media. **** Damien Barrett, **** Brandon Goddard. **** Geelong. **** Victoria. What is even the point in playing in a comp where we get treated as clubs that aren’t even in the same rank as those other Vic Floggo clubs?

F U C K V I C

 

[BartBart]

Can Geelong turn their last stand on Tim Kelly into a big win?

It's hard to see now but losing Tim Kelly could be great for Geelong if they can thrash out a suitable deal with West Coast for the talented 25-year-old.

www.watoday.com.au

 

[Dylan82]

Oi! Dylan. DYLAN, you son-of-a-gun. It’s tomorrow already. Wake up and tell us the trade news. WillieNillie has already overtaken you with the Kelly update.

Wake up Dylan!

Dylan82, wanna spend a night with me?
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Cmon, Dylan. We need our trade news. If I start yelling at the kids unnecessarily because I’m in a bad mood while waiting for my trade news, that’s on you, Dylan.
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This what ima say to that son of a bitch Dylan when i see him next

Who is this Dylan and how did he get hold of a crystal ball ?

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fu** sake can't take this anymore.

Dylan82

Spill the ******* beans!

If Dylan82 doesn’t get this trade done by sundown tomorrow morning I’m exiling him to Geelong.

Dylan82

All will be revealed when Dylan finally wakes up.

Anyway know where he lives?

1,000 of us can camp out on his lawn every night, awaiting the latest news.

Honestly. Who sleeps until 3pm

He's still speechless from all the news he's found out.

Someone may need to organise a welfare check on Dylan...

Ok catch me up - whos Dylan and why are we waiting for him to wake up?

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He knows people.

Also known as
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Dylan looking at all his text messages. He's not coming back gaiz

And how long does he sleep?

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Really disliking the name Dylan all of sudden, can't work out why.

He's our oracle descended from the holy mountain, clutching the golden tablets of football, he's our fountain of leather pill knowledge, the high priest of facts and data crunching...but today, it seems on here that he has slept in and is a very naughty boy?

I think Dylan has Chicky’s alarm clock. Might wake up wondering how the hell paint got in his hair too...

Off to find Dylan gaiz

You mean I just scrawled through 14 odd pages to see a Dylan post with some info but all I got was a deranged feline banging on likes he’s on a bad acid trip

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Turns out Dylan's phone pinging away when he was out on the piss was his mum/wife/partner telling him to get the fu** home and now he's had his internet privileges cancelled.

Well there’s only one explanation for this. Dylan is holding out on us guys. He got some great info and he’s not sharing it. Kelly for only a 3rd rounder confirmed!

Having a coffee , Dylan not far away .....

When did you stop caring Dylan?

Was it all just a lie?

Is your name even Dylan?


Betrayal

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I’ve called the police guys.

Dylan for kelly confirmed


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Why, Dylan82 why?

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Dylan with the greatest troll in board history.

Whoa...

Everybody, cool out...




First off - I'd be much happier if I had spent the day sleeping. I will spare the details, but involves relatives, airports, long weekend traffic and going an a jog around the block that ended up becoming more than 20km.

Tried to keep up with the 20+ pages being added here on phone during the day, but it's been one of those days to be honest. Easier to post something cohesive now the kids have finally fallen asleep.


Messages have been coming thick and fast but I'm not sure what make of them to be honest - there is a lot of crap that is going around, more than I can recall in previous years, and the trade period isn't even officially open yet.

Take the man of the hour - T.Kelly. I've received everything from it being done in a picks only deal, using only 2019 picks, using next year's picks, to players being added, to two, three, four, five, even six clubs in total being involved.

It is absolutely ridiculous, I have not come across anything like this before over a particular deal. I'm almost at a loss for reasons why, but a lot of normally level-headed people have seemingly lost their composure over this deal - which is simply baffling because it has been fait accompli since it failed to take place in 2018. Considering the time of year, I actually switched the phone off during the day in order to ignore some of the garbage that is coming through.

Points of note:

• Geelong apparently started negotiations asking for two first round picks for T.Kelly this year with extras.
• West Coast opening with 14 + 2020 2nd for T.Kelly.
• The Kelly camp is very upset with the way Geelong have approached this - whatever happens he will not be at the Cats next year.
• T.Kelly will only go to Fremantle as a last resort if a deal with West Coast is unable to be completed.
• Fremantle are offering nothing in addition to their pick 7.
• Strong suggestion that unless another club is involved the final deal will be 14 + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd in exchange for T.Kelly + 55 + 2020 3rd.
• Should get done early in the period, with other to be done deals dependent upon its outcome.
• Geelong will then offer pick 14 to Adelaide for B.Crouch.
• The Hawthorn pick 11 trade for 24 and 33 (as earlier posted here by WillieNillie) made a lot of rounds yesterday - albeit with a 2020 swap of second and third round picks. Nothing further about it today, which suggests it was on previously then it has cooled now.
• Eagles looking to split and/or trade the remaining second round pick for another midfielder (usual suspects mentioned here - e.g. SPP, Acres, Zuhaar named as well).
• Effectively trading out of the draft for T.Kelly and another player.
• A lot of people involved around clubs are just as puzzled about the potential Daniher to Sydney deal as the rest of us are.
• Nobody seems to be coming up with a way that St Kilda and Carlton can make all these deals happen with the picks they have without getting into absurdity.

Hopefully some sanity starts to kick-in on Monday once deals start getting done. This period so far has been awful for the amount of fake stories going around. Getting to the point where I just want it over already before it even officially begins.

 

[bzparkes]

Whoa...

Everybody, cool out...




First off - I'd be much happier if I had spent the day sleeping. I will spare the details, but involves relatives, airports, long weekend traffic and going an a jog around the block that ended up becoming more than 20km.

Tried to keep up with the 20+ pages being added here on phone during the day, but it's been one of those days to be honest. Easier to post something cohesive now the kids have finally fallen asleep.


Messages have been coming thick and fast but I'm not sure what make of them to be honest - there is a lot of crap that is going around, more than I can recall in previous years, and the trade period isn't even officially open yet.

Take the man of the hour - T.Kelly. I've received everything from it being done in a picks only deal, using only 2019 picks, using next year's picks, to players being added, to two, three, four, five, even six clubs in total being involved.

It is absolutely ridiculous, I have not come across anything like this before over a particular deal. I'm almost at a loss for reasons why, but a lot of normally level-headed people have seemingly lost their composure over this deal - which is simply baffling because it has been fait accompli since it failed to take place in 2018. Considering the time of year, I actually switched the phone off during the day in order to ignore some of the garbage that is coming through.

Points of note:

• Geelong apparently started negotiations asking for two first round picks for T.Kelly this year with extras.
• West Coast opening with 14 + 2020 2nd for T.Kelly.
• The Kelly camp is very upset with the way Geelong have approached this - whatever happens he will not be at the Cats next year.
• T.Kelly will only go to Fremantle as a last resort if a deal with West Coast is unable to be completed.
• Fremantle are offering nothing in addition to their pick 7.
• Strong suggestion that unless another club is involved the final deal will be 14 + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd in exchange for T.Kelly + 55 + 2020 3rd.
• Should get done early in the period, with other to be done deals dependent upon its outcome.
• Geelong will then offer pick 14 to Adelaide for B.Crouch.
• The Hawthorn pick 11 trade for 24 and 33 (as earlier posted here by WillieNillie) made a lot of rounds yesterday - albeit with a 2020 swap of second and third round picks. Nothing further about it today, which suggests it was on previously then it has cooled now.
• Eagles looking to split and/or trade the remaining second round pick for another midfielder (usual suspects mentioned here - e.g. SPP, Acres, Zuhaar named as well).
• Effectively trading out of the draft for T.Kelly and another player.
• A lot of people involved around clubs are just as puzzled about the potential Daniher to Sydney deal as the rest of us are.
• Nobody seems to be coming up with a way that St Kilda and Carlton can make all these deals happen with the picks they have without getting into absurdity.

Hopefully some sanity starts to kick-in on Monday once deals start getting done. This period so far has been awful for the amount of fake stories going around. Getting to the point where I just want it over already before it even officially begins.

First.

 

[fomoco04]

Whoa...

Everybody, cool out...




First off - I'd be much happier if I had spent the day sleeping. I will spare the details, but involves relatives, airports, long weekend traffic and going an a jog around the block that ended up becoming more than 20km.

Tried to keep up with the 20+ pages being added here on phone during the day, but it's been one of those days to be honest. Easier to post something cohesive now the kids have finally fallen asleep.


Messages have been coming thick and fast but I'm not sure what make of them to be honest - there is a lot of crap that is going around, more than I can recall in previous years, and the trade period isn't even officially open yet.

Take the man of the hour - T.Kelly. I've received everything from it being done in a picks only deal, using only 2019 picks, using next year's picks, to players being added, to two, three, four, five, even six clubs in total being involved.

It is absolutely ridiculous, I have not come across anything like this before over a particular deal. I'm almost at a loss for reasons why, but a lot of normally level-headed people have seemingly lost their composure over this deal - which is simply baffling because it has been fait accompli since it failed to take place in 2018. Considering the time of year, I actually switched the phone off during the day in order to ignore some of the garbage that is coming through.

Points of note:

• Geelong apparently started negotiations asking for two first round picks for T.Kelly this year with extras.
• West Coast opening with 14 + 2020 2nd for T.Kelly.
• The Kelly camp is very upset with the way Geelong have approached this - whatever happens he will not be at the Cats next year.
• T.Kelly will only go to Fremantle as a last resort if a deal with West Coast is unable to be completed.
• Fremantle are offering nothing in addition to their pick 7.
• Strong suggestion that unless another club is involved the final deal will be 14 + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd in exchange for T.Kelly + 55 + 2020 3rd.
• Should get done early in the period, with other to be done deals dependent upon its outcome.
• Geelong will then offer pick 14 to Adelaide for B.Crouch.
• The Hawthorn pick 11 trade for 24 and 33 (as earlier posted here by WillieNillie) made a lot of rounds yesterday - albeit with a 2020 swap of second and third round picks. Nothing further about it today, which suggests it was on previously then it has cooled now.
• Eagles looking to split and/or trade the remaining second round pick for another midfielder (usual suspects mentioned here - e.g. SPP, Acres, Zuhaar named as well).
• Effectively trading out of the draft for T.Kelly and another player.
• A lot of people involved around clubs are just as puzzled about the potential Daniher to Sydney deal as the rest of us are.
• Nobody seems to be coming up with a way that St Kilda and Carlton can make all these deals happen with the picks they have without getting into absurdity.

Hopefully some sanity starts to kick-in on Monday once deals start getting done. This period so far has been awful for the amount of fake stories going around. Getting to the point where I just want it over already before it even officially begins.

That has to be the biggest multi quote of all time.

Zuhaar is interesting, surely there’s no way in hell Norf let him go.

SPP no thanks.

And I agree fully. There is absolutely 0% chance that TK is back at Geelong next year.

 

[kerrazy]

14 + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd in exchange for T.Kelly + 55 + 2020 3rd

Geelong Board if this goes through.

 

[Matera92]

Whoa...

Everybody, cool out...




First off - I'd be much happier if I had spent the day sleeping. I will spare the details, but involves relatives, airports, long weekend traffic and going an a jog around the block that ended up becoming more than 20km.

Tried to keep up with the 20+ pages being added here on phone during the day, but it's been one of those days to be honest. Easier to post something cohesive now the kids have finally fallen asleep.


Messages have been coming thick and fast but I'm not sure what make of them to be honest - there is a lot of crap that is going around, more than I can recall in previous years, and the trade period isn't even officially open yet.

Take the man of the hour - T.Kelly. I've received everything from it being done in a picks only deal, using only 2019 picks, using next year's picks, to players being added, to two, three, four, five, even six clubs in total being involved.

It is absolutely ridiculous, I have not come across anything like this before over a particular deal. I'm almost at a loss for reasons why, but a lot of normally level-headed people have seemingly lost their composure over this deal - which is simply baffling because it has been fait accompli since it failed to take place in 2018. Considering the time of year, I actually switched the phone off during the day in order to ignore some of the garbage that is coming through.

Points of note:

• Geelong apparently started negotiations asking for two first round picks for T.Kelly this year with extras.
• West Coast opening with 14 + 2020 2nd for T.Kelly.
• The Kelly camp is very upset with the way Geelong have approached this - whatever happens he will not be at the Cats next year.
• T.Kelly will only go to Fremantle as a last resort if a deal with West Coast is unable to be completed.
• Fremantle are offering nothing in addition to their pick 7.
• Strong suggestion that unless another club is involved the final deal will be 14 + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd in exchange for T.Kelly + 55 + 2020 3rd.
• Should get done early in the period, with other to be done deals dependent upon its outcome.
• Geelong will then offer pick 14 to Adelaide for B.Crouch.
• The Hawthorn pick 11 trade for 24 and 33 (as earlier posted here by WillieNillie) made a lot of rounds yesterday - albeit with a 2020 swap of second and third round picks. Nothing further about it today, which suggests it was on previously then it has cooled now.
• Eagles looking to split and/or trade the remaining second round pick for another midfielder (usual suspects mentioned here - e.g. SPP, Acres, Zuhaar named as well).
• Effectively trading out of the draft for T.Kelly and another player.
• A lot of people involved around clubs are just as puzzled about the potential Daniher to Sydney deal as the rest of us are.
• Nobody seems to be coming up with a way that St Kilda and Carlton can make all these deals happen with the picks they have without getting into absurdity.

Hopefully some sanity starts to kick-in on Monday once deals start getting done. This period so far has been awful for the amount of fake stories going around. Getting to the point where I just want it over already before it even officially begins.

 

[BeornJ]

excellent, appreciate the help and support and those brilliant articles you post

Kellys manager is just voicing tim and his wifes frustration .

People have no idea how hard autistic children are and the stress it puts on a family .

All they want is to be home surrounded by their support network

I'm a special needs trained teacher with 10+ years experience.

I can vouch for this statement.

Firstly, there is a huge range of severity of Autism. Sometimes people just think they are a bit socially awkward then get diagnosed on the spectrum in their 40s...

However, as TK's kids were diagnosed as children I would suggest that it is far more severe then that.

Some of the more extreme cases of ASD I have encountered:

A boy who had a visual timetable of the week with him at all times. If something had to be changed he was likely to become distressed, sob uncontrollably or become aggressive. He got a couple of sweet headbutts on me, the poor soul.

A girl who needed a sensory break so badly she locked herself in a toilet for nearly an hour.

A boy who put an assistant in a headlock because his music teacher was off sick.

Just some examples. These are the difficulties but some of these people I will remember fondly for the rest of my life.

Point is, a LOT of support is needed for 1 child with ASD. More than that? Oh boy....

but sure, let's play with this families future so we can upgrade our draft picks. Wooooo

 

[PremiershipNo4]

This isn’t going to please those already peeved about us drafting Ainsworth ahead of Worpel

I was at that draft with my eldest son, I remember telling him Worpel is still available I genuinely thought we would take him.
Hopefully Ainsworth comes good.

 

[darksquare]

I just don’t get why they’d deal out pick 11 to us at all.

It’s not sounding likely that a bid will come for Maginness before that pick. At the moment they’ve also got picks 30 and 51. Those picks alone allow them to match any bid from pick 15 and beyond. Meaning if they hold 11, they’re a damn good chance of getting the 11th best kid in this draft and Maginness. Why throw that away to get some points they’re unlikely to need?

If things change in the leadup to the draft and it looks like he’s going to bolt into the top ten, there’s plenty of scope now for pick swaps before, and even the day of, the draft. Which won’t help us because the time for a trade for Kelly will have passed, but it’s not Hawthorn’s job to help us.

I reckon that was true before the combine. But Maginness might have tested himself into the top 10.

 

[darksquare]

This isn’t going to please those already peeved about us drafting Ainsworth ahead of Worpel

Just want to state for the record that, in opposition to much of this board, I didn't want us to draft Worpel. I didn't like his disposal efficiency. This has not worked out well - Worpel wins B&F, and we have Ainsworth, the only AFL-listed player whose actual disposal is worse than I worried Worpel's would be.

 

[Numero Uno]

the media just panders and supports Geelongs poor behavior

Just imagine if we were the club holding a player back under the same circumstances
The Vic media would be 'ripping into us' and calling us every name under the sun

 

[FreeTK]

Whoa...

Everybody, cool out...




First off - I'd be much happier if I had spent the day sleeping. I will spare the details, but involves relatives, airports, long weekend traffic and going an a jog around the block that ended up becoming more than 20km.

Tried to keep up with the 20+ pages being added here on phone during the day, but it's been one of those days to be honest. Easier to post something cohesive now the kids have finally fallen asleep.


Messages have been coming thick and fast but I'm not sure what make of them to be honest - there is a lot of crap that is going around, more than I can recall in previous years, and the trade period isn't even officially open yet.

Take the man of the hour - T.Kelly. I've received everything from it being done in a picks only deal, using only 2019 picks, using next year's picks, to players being added, to two, three, four, five, even six clubs in total being involved.

It is absolutely ridiculous, I have not come across anything like this before over a particular deal. I'm almost at a loss for reasons why, but a lot of normally level-headed people have seemingly lost their composure over this deal - which is simply baffling because it has been fait accompli since it failed to take place in 2018. Considering the time of year, I actually switched the phone off during the day in order to ignore some of the garbage that is coming through.

Points of note:

• Geelong apparently started negotiations asking for two first round picks for T.Kelly this year with extras.
• West Coast opening with 14 + 2020 2nd for T.Kelly.
• The Kelly camp is very upset with the way Geelong have approached this - whatever happens he will not be at the Cats next year.
• T.Kelly will only go to Fremantle as a last resort if a deal with West Coast is unable to be completed.
• Fremantle are offering nothing in addition to their pick 7.
• Strong suggestion that unless another club is involved the final deal will be 14 + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd in exchange for T.Kelly + 55 + 2020 3rd.
• Should get done early in the period, with other to be done deals dependent upon its outcome.
• Geelong will then offer pick 14 to Adelaide for B.Crouch.
• The Hawthorn pick 11 trade for 24 and 33 (as earlier posted here by WillieNillie) made a lot of rounds yesterday - albeit with a 2020 swap of second and third round picks. Nothing further about it today, which suggests it was on previously then it has cooled now.
• Eagles looking to split and/or trade the remaining second round pick for another midfielder (usual suspects mentioned here - e.g. SPP, Acres, Zuhaar named as well).
• Effectively trading out of the draft for T.Kelly and another player.
• A lot of people involved around clubs are just as puzzled about the potential Daniher to Sydney deal as the rest of us are.
• Nobody seems to be coming up with a way that St Kilda and Carlton can make all these deals happen with the picks they have without getting into absurdity.

Hopefully some sanity starts to kick-in on Monday once deals start getting done. This period so far has been awful for the amount of fake stories going around. Getting to the point where I just want it over already before it even officially begins.

I hope Adelaide tell the cats to go and eat a bag of dicks.


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[brabs]

Strong suggestion that unless another club is involved the final deal will be 14 + 2019 2nd + 2020 2nd in exchange for T.Kelly + 55 + 2020 3rd.

Is that our 2019 second or Sydney’s?

 

[Off Tap]

I hope Adelaide tell the cats to go and eat a bag of dicks.


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I'm start to get the feeling you don't have an opinion of them.

 

[Bacchus]

I hope Adelaide tell the cats to go and eat a bag of dicks.


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Or at least string them out and make them suffer, say all kinds of pathetic things to the media, then say we are dealing respectfully and then refuse to do the deal after making impossible demands. Especially say 'we don't want to make a competitor stronger'.