Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 4: Shitizens on Pootroll

[Trewth]

Way to further the point of the left eating eachother.

 

[chiwigi]

Indeed.
I beg to differ. But its probably time for the thread to move on.
I deleted it as it had a pretty offensive word in the title. It was "Joe Rogan on Transgender Student that Cant be a Diversity Officer" should you want a Google. It's pretty funny but also offensive.

Then you are incorrect, but Portia doesn't need me to argue for her so I'll leave you two to it.

 

[manureid]

Good to see since Piston was booted (with all of his aliases) that the Shithzu thread can still throw up some curly ones overnight.

 

[Power Girl]

I'm off to bed now, can I get an award for keeping well and truly away from this one?

Why wouldn't you leave it alone as i can't see you would have anything worthwhile to add.
Do you always want an award for doing what is expected? Do you get a trophy for doing a shit each day.
You really have an overinflated view of your opinion.
You do realise you don't have to comment on everything especially that of which you know absolutely nothing about.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Good to see since Piston was booted (with all of his aliases) that the Shithzu thread can still throw up some curly ones overnight.

He's around he just stays away from this thread

 

[ScooterBrother]

Way to further the point of the left eating eachother.

Yup. Could almost be a case study.

 

[Portia]

It doesnt matter if you're actually Tim himself. Your outrage is still over the top.

If you're inferring that you're a transgender person, then might I suggest instead of outrage, you provide wisdom.

I have the feeling you think your definition of outrage is someone sitting down, tapping their chin and going "Oh, what should I do next, shall I masturbate or perhaps I'll be outraged today. Mmm, well I've already had a go three times today, lets try outrage"

I mean I can imagine that might be an experience you relate. That is not what this is.

This is me browsing a forum that recently decided Trump discussion was too hairy to discuss in this thread, and you decided to come in here and dump a rant against transgender people and declare it repeatedly hilarious.

Ehhh nah. If someone is purposefully making a joke for entertainment purposes then within that context anything goes IMO.

And a word in a title is not comedy or satire or entertainment, is it?

Moses didn't come down from the mountain with "COMEDY CAN'T BE OFFENSIVE" inscribed on one stone tablet. And you don't get to handle shit and pretend your hands are clean.

Of course it is.

But that doesnt make him, or me, transphobic.

Yeah it absolutely does.

You're being ******* ridiculous now. I was happy to have the discussion but if you're going to continue with this line of accusatory bullshit you can **** right off and brood and be offended all you like, but it wont be whilst conversing with me.

THIS ISN'T A DISCUSSION

I AM NOT A ****ING DISCUSSION YOU IGNORANT campaigner

 

[Portia]

And hey thanks everyone.

Thanks mods for not following up reports.

Thanks to the `clique' (lol as if we needed more proof there isn't one) for pitching in when the `hurr hurr look at the lamo weirdo' crew descended to empathise with Scooter.

Chiwigi, thanks for at least being willing to go two posts deep.

I do not need this shit. **** off.

 

[ScooterBrother]

Alrighty then. Sorry but you're unhinged and you ought to speak to someone.

I wish you all the best.

 

[chiwigi]

Alrighty then. Sorry but you're unhinged and you ought to speak to someone.

I wish you all the best.

Not unhinged, but close to the topic issue. Real people are involved in this stuff, it isn't a moot.

 

[ScooterBrother]

Not unhinged, but close to the topic issue. Real people are involved in this stuff, it isn't a moot.

Which is fine. I now understand that this is a personal issue for Portia and will respect that.

Doesn't excuse her posting/attitude/attack towards me - that's what is unhinged. I was nothing but conciliatory until I was accused of being transphobic and ignorant at which time I pushed back. Just like I don't get to define who Tim is, Portia doesn't get to misrepresent me as a person in that light either. I am neither of those things.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

I thought we were laughing at the situation not hurr hurr transgender people.. anyway I guess if we get back to more acceptable forms of humour like bashing the evil suburban white guy & overweight people we'll drift back to the norm.

 

[ScooterBrother]

I thought we were laughing at the situation not hurr hurr transgender people.. anyway I guess if we get back to more acceptable forms of humour like bashing the evil suburban white guy & overweight people we'll drift back to the norm.

That's the point! The theme of the video and the discussion was actually in defense of a transgender person. That's what made it funny - that at a liberal politically correct college even a transgender dude can get discriminated against.

That's the whole joke. That's the absurdity of it all.

But we're so quick to outrage and to label people.

#EatEmAlive

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Which is fine. I now understand that this is a personal issue for Portia and will respect that.

Doesn't excuse her posting/attitude/attack towards me - that's what is unhinged. I was nothing but conciliatory until I was accused of being transphobic and ignorant at which time I pushed back. Just like I don't get to define who Tim is, Portia doesn't get to misrepresent me as a person in that light either. I am neither of those things.

I don't think you were being deliberately obstinate and you weren't to know Portias life story so I get that. I find it hard not to offend people with everything I say.... It might not hurt to show some empathy or compassion now though? I cannot even imagine what life would be like for people in her situation.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Also username change to ScoBro is in order.

 

[Jonts]

Dog update

So many overnight poos in our living area
And the neighbours fence is being upgraded as I type didn't expect that

 

[ScooterBrother]

I don't think you were being deliberately obstinate and you weren't to know Portias life story so I get that. I find it hard not to offend people with everything I say.... It might not hurt to show some empathy or compassion now though? I cannot even imagine what life would be like for people in her situation.

Yeah absolutely I had no idea that this was such a deeply personal issue for Portia and will absolutely respect that with any content I post in the future.

 

[Jonts]

Woah, just caught up on the last few pages

Bloody mods

How dare they not look at reported posts from 10pm to 9am grr, what are we paying you for

 

[chiwigi]

That's the point! The theme of the video and the discussion was actually in defense of a transgender person. That's what made it funny - that at a liberal politically correct college even a transgender dude can get discriminated against.

That's the whole joke. That's the absurdity of it all.

But we're so quick to outrage and to label people.

#EatEmAlive

The only person who was 'offended' was the only person here (as far as we know there could be more) who could be genuinely offended. What part of that are you not understanding?

It isn't a PC thing, it is a 'life is ****ing hard for some in certain circumstances and being prodded on a footy site isn't really fun' thing. To then be called out as absurd for asking that you not is absurd itself.

A discussion on transgender issues is one thing, shitposting about it is just crass.

Edit: Just read your recent post and you acknowledged this.

 

[Janus]

And hey thanks everyone.

Thanks mods for not following up reports.

Thanks to the `clique' (lol as if we needed more proof there isn't one) for pitching in when the `hurr hurr look at the lamo weirdo' crew descended to empathise with Scooter.

Chiwigi, thanks for at least being willing to go two posts deep.

I do not need this shit. **** off.

I have and have known many transgendered people online, and I consider them all my friends. I've even pointed several of them who were considering it to your excellent post about what your thought processes were at the time, and they have all readily identified with it. For mine, I will call anyone who identifies with being a woman as 'she/her' and anyone who identifies being a man as 'he/him', because it's the person inside that I'm talking to and not the shell on the outside. You have helped at least three people in their journey to discover who they are, so I thank you for that.

Some people just can't deal with this because they lack the empathy needed. And I don't mean empathy in terms of feeling sorry for someone, but empathy in terms of putting themselves in the other person's shoes and understanding what it would be like to feel to the very depths of your being that the body you were born into isn't the one you were meant to have. Either that, or they are scared of dealing with something that they don't understand and refuse to be educated on.

Which is fine. I now understand that this is a personal issue for Portia and will respect that.

Doesn't excuse her posting/attitude/attack towards me - that's what is unhinged. I was nothing but conciliatory until I was accused of being transphobic and ignorant at which time I pushed back. Just like I don't get to define who Tim is, Portia doesn't get to misrepresent me as a person in that light either. I am neither of those things.

Portia was absolutely fine and pointed out that the role was about being a multicultural diversity officer at a women's college, where this guy would be representing women even though he identifies as a man. Instead of looking at what he actually is (a transgendered man) you continually focused on the process that it took to make him that way (a transgendered man) as if that was all that mattered. I'll bet if it was the other way around, and instead of a transgendered man it was a transgendered female noone would have an issue with her applying for the position.

When you focus on the transgender issue, you are saying that it is that which primarily defines that person - when what they really want is to be defined by the gender they feel they are. My girlfriend identified with being male at one point. She still likes girls, but she says that I make her want to be with a man. For her, gender is meaningless - I guess you could describe her as pansexual. She was raised in a patriarchy where she was made to feel inferior, and it was only because I treat her with respect and kindness that she came to understand that not all men are like that and so felt safe enough to realize that she actually likes men too.

Understanding and compassion. That's what is required.

 

[ScooterBrother]

The only person who was 'offended' was the only person here (as far as we know there could be more) who could be genuinely offended. What part of that are you not understanding?

Of course, and I can understand the argument that the video would've been offensive to Portia and knowing what I know now, I wouldn't post it within this community again.

That is an entirely different concession to the conversation that followed.

Video - offensive, yep, wont post it again.
ScooterBrother's conversation thereafter - not offensive. And I challenge anyone to reasonably come to that conclusion.

It isn't a PC thing, it is a 'life is ******* hard for some in certain circumstances and being prodded on a footy site isn't really fun' thing. To then be called out as absurd for asking that you not is absurd itself.

A discussion on transgender issues is one thing, shitposting about it is just crass.

Agreed as per above.

 

[raman]

I'll bet if it was the other way around, and instead of a transgendered man it was a transgendered female noone would have an issue with her applying for the position.

I don't know about that, there is a strong anti-trans "feminist" element out there too, sadly. I've ended a friendship over that bullshit.

 

[ScooterBrother]

Portia was absolutely fine and pointed out that the role was about being a multicultural diversity officer at a women's college, where this guy would be representing women even though he identifies as a man. Instead of looking at what he actually is (a transgendered man) you continually focused on the process that it took to make him that way (a transgendered man) as if that was all that mattered. I'll bet if it was the other way around, and instead of a transgendered man it was a transgendered female noone would have an issue with her applying for the position.

Correct, as per the policy which stipulated that a person born a woman but lives and identifies as a man, would not be permitted enrollment, whereas a person born as man who lives and identifies as woman would.

I support that policy as thinks its great. And said as much when Portia posted it.

When you focus on the transgender issue, you are saying that it is that which primarily defines that person

I was focusing on the absurdity that the transgender person, Tim, a man - was being stopped from a leadership position in an all female university despite the fact he was born a woman.

when what they really want is to be defined by the gender they feel they are.

Not a problem in the world with that at all. A person who chose to do this was being discriminated against. Which is funny - as transgender people would have to be among the most marginalised in western society.

 

[Doctor Feel]

If any of my (few) comments on the issue upset you Portia, I certainly didn't mean it that way.

 

[Grave Danger]

Every movie is better with the Bon Scott AC/DC.

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