Analysis The Rebuilds of Carlton and Fremantle and their future prospects

[Arr0w]

Amiss is our full fwd
McKay is yours
Amiss is having a better season the McKay on 1/8th of his wage

And Fyfe is also playing as a forward this year, the most expensive per goal player in the league

#amidoingitright?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Amiss is our full fwd
McKay is yours
Amiss is having a better season the McKay on 1/8th of his wage

What about Cerra being on the same wage as Will Brodie and Jaegar Omeara?

As all clubs pay a minimum of 95% of the cap, we could play this games until the cows come home Ronnie.

 

[RonnieRaven]

So now it's narrowed to key forwards?

McKay has been poor in front of the sticks, but his workrate has been decent

But, using salary as a metic for goals kicked is bizarre.

Fyfe is on more money this year, than McKay, played predominantly forward, yet, we want to judge only key forwards on salary per goal?

Seriously

Arrow are you ok?
You were never one to pick snippets magnify them and turn it around and rant

 

[Arr0w]

Arrow are you ok?
You were never one to pick snippets magnify them and turn it around and rant

It's a bizarre way to make a point Ronnie

 

[RonnieRaven]

What about Cerra being on the same wage as Will Brodie and Jaegar Omeara?

As all clubs pay a minimum of 95% of the cap, we could play this games until the cows come home Ronnie.

It’s great how some lick up the mayo without eating the chicken sandwich

 

[gungho]

So now it's narrowed to key forwards?

McKay has been poor in front of the sticks, but his workrate has been decent

But, using salary as a metic for goals kicked is bizarre.

Fyfe is on more money this year, than McKay, played predominantly forward, yet, we want to judge only key forwards on salary per goal?

Seriously

Happy to compare any player that plays predominantly in the forward line, to see how many goals they’ve kicked. If you are Harry McKay though, you are a full forward, you should be kicking goals.

So now it's narrowed to key forwards?

McKay has been poor in front of the sticks, but his workrate has been decent

But, using salary as a metic for goals kicked is bizarre.

Fyfe is on more money this year, than McKay, played predominantly forward, yet, we want to judge only key forwards on salary per goal?

Seriously

When you say things like Fyfe is playing predominantly forward arrow it really does make me question whether you do watch the dockers games. There’s no shame in that (I don’t watch all Carlton games) but not sure why you don’t just admit it.

 

[Arr0w]

Happy to compare any player that plays predominantly in the forward line, to see how many goals they’ve kicked. If you are Harry McKay though, you are a full forward, you should be kicking goals.

When you say things like Fyfe is playing predominantly forward arrow it really does make me question whether you do watch the dockers games. There’s no shame in that (I don’t watch all Carlton games) but not sure why you don’t just admit it.

See, the thing is, every club has the same salary cap to spend, how each club spends that depends on the talent they have across the park

Some pay more to forwards, some to ruckmen, etc


Please, Fyfe hasn't played predominantly forward this year?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

It’s great how some lick up the mayo without eating the chicken sandwich

You seem to squirm when your own logic is used against you could be poor logic

 

[Piggy Smalls]

So Fyfe predominately the forward line is good bang for buck?

And Jackson splits his time forward yeah?

It's a poor metric isn't it

Fyfe’s played on ball for the past three weeks and Jackson has impacted forward, on the ball and in the ruck in equal measure. Goals per dollar earned is a poor metric in this case.

 

[RonnieRaven]

It's a bizarre way to make a point Ronnie

You missed the point and anchored on to the jazz!
You can read in this thread countless times
Freo no fwd line
Can’t replace lobb
Jl can’t coach
Walters cooked
So on so on
Freo have 3 guys in the top 25 of Coleman
McKay isn’t in the 25

 

[Piggy Smalls]

See, the thing is, every club has the same salary cap to spend, how each club spends that depends on the talent they have across the park

Some pay more to forwards, some to ruckmen, etc


Please, Fyfe hasn't played predominantly forward this year?

He played forward in round 1. Was injured until round 7. Came back in rounds 8 and 9 as the sub where he was injected into the midfield, and played on the ball for the majority of his game time on Sunday.

 

[greatgatsby]

And Fyfe is also playing as a forward this year, the most expensive per goal player in the league

#amidoingitright?

Playing midfield Fyfe had more possessions than any Geelong player out there when he was subbed off. And he hasn't played forward since round one. But I'm sure he's not worth his paycheck!

 

[RonnieRaven]

You seem to squirm when your own logic is used against you could be poor logic

My logic was we got 3 guys in the top 25 of the Coleman
McKays not in the 25.
The mayo was their wages equal his.
Next time for mayo I’ll just multi quote all the shit about freos fwd line earlier in the thread

 

[Arr0w]

Fyfe’s played on ball for the past three weeks and Jackson has impacted forward, on the ball and in the ruck in equal measure. Goals per dollar earned is a poor metric in this case.

Last 3 weeks?

You missed the point and anchored on to the jazz!
You can read in this thread countless times
Freo no fwd line
Can’t replace lobb
Jl can’t coach
Walters cooked

Perhaps you should debate that with said posters

So on so on
Freo have 3 guys in the top 25 of Coleman
McKay isn’t in the 25

And what relevance does that have in where both sides finish?

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Fyfe WAS going to be played as a forward this season but due to his injury we have exposed a tall trio in Amiss, Treacy and Jackson/Darcy that is definitely worth persevering with. Fyfe has returned as an impact player being used mainly on the ball.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Last 3 weeks?

Perhaps you should debate that with said posters


And what relevance does that have in where both sides finish?

Not sure if serious? He’s only played 4 games this year. 2 of those as the sub.

 

[Arr0w]

He played forward in round 1. Was injured until round 7. Came back in rounds 8 and 9 as the sub where he was injected into the midfield, and played on the ball for the majority of his game time on Sunday.

Playing midfield Fyfe had more possessions than any Geelong player out there when he was subbed off. And he hasn't played forward since round one. But I'm sure he's not worth his paycheck!

So Fyfe not playing for 5 rounders eliminates the money he receives?

 

[Piggy Smalls]

So Fyfe not playing for 5 rounders eliminates the money he receives?

I’ve got no words. You’re either an elite troll or incredibly dense.

 

[RonnieRaven]

Last 3 weeks?

Perhaps you should debate that with said posters


And what relevance does that have in where both sides finish?

This is a rebuild thread not a who finishes highest thread.
The fwd line is the last piece of the rebuild.
We’ve built our defence we’ve built our midfield they’re currently just going through the aging process and now we have a functioning fwd line.

 

[Arr0w]

I’ve got no words. You’re either an elite troll or incredibly dense.

No, just interesting that we are defining goals per salary

 

[Piggy Smalls]

No, just interesting that we are defining goals per salary

No I just said it was a sh*t metric.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

My logic was we got 3 guys in the top 25 of the Coleman
McKays not in the 25.
The mayo was their wages equal his.
Next time for mayo I’ll just multi quote all the s**t about freos fwd line earlier in the thread

Good on Freo for opening up their forward half and finding more avenues to goal. As a result they now have a below average defence on PA, which was a massive strength last season.

Carlton currently experiencing the opposite.

Perhaps look a little deeper you might see what’s actually going on even if you miss out on an “I told you so”.

But in the spirit of your posting

Matt “Cat B” Owies - 11 goals in 5 games
Nat “Millionaire” Fyfe - 1 goal in 4 games

Could go all day

 

[Arr0w]

This is a rebuild thread not a who finishes highest thread.
The fwd line is the last piece of the rebuild.
We’ve built our defence we’ve built our midfield they’re currently just going through the aging process and now we have a functioning fwd line.

The replacement of aging players that many of your supporters took exception to such comments last year, as to why you might not make finals this year?

I think you have a strong list of talented youth, good to see Treacy being backed in to play too

Like last year, still believe you have a slight weakness in KPD stocks, but tgat can be easily addressed

Our weakness in addressing speed is more difficult

 

[RonnieRaven]

Good on Freo for opening up their forward half and finding more avenues to goal. As a result they now have a below average defence on PA, which was a massive strength last season.

Carlton currently experiencing the opposite.

Perhaps look a little deeper you might see what’s actually going on even if you miss out on an “I told you so”.

But in the spirit of your posting

Matt “Cat B” Owies - 11 goals in 5 games
Nat “Millionaire” Fyfe - 1 goal in 4 games

Could go all day

I’m glad your happy for freo.
I’ve loved watching the blues the last month!

 

[Arr0w]

No I just said it was a sh*t metric.

Which was my original point