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As Vintage69 stated he divides opinions. Will be interesting to see how he plays out the season and if he can justify some of the hype
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Yeah either way we go it’s gonna be exciting
I obviously hope we get him
The way I see it is if we use our first round pick in the draft and draft a starting mid who plays every week we would be over the moon
So what’s the difference on rolling the dice in the draft on a player who isn’t even a 100% chance to work out or at least be a few years away from making a difference for us anyway or a player like Cerra who is ready to go now and make an impact for us from day dot
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If we got the cash no point not spending it700k
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I don't think anyone would object to Cerra joining Richmond. It's obviously the cost that's wildly in dispute.
If it's just a first rounder most can live with that. What triggers people who really don't buy the hype about him is the idea that we have to pay 'overs' to get him to Richmond, both in terms of draft picks and salary Watching Richmond last Friday night going forward we need a hell of a lot more than just Cerra. Houli is gone, Cotchin, Edwards and Astbury might be, Riewoldt is struggling to impact entire games, plus there are a whole bunch of players hitting thirty in the next year or so. With the draft hand we have it offers an opportunity to rejuvenate across every line with an influx of very high quality kids .
Fremantle will demand two first rounders, to me that should be the end of the discussion. Frankly I don't even want him for a first and a second, our needs are too numerous. Personally the sooner I hear that he has re-signed with Fremantle the happier I will be.
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The argument is we do not want Cerra now when we can get the draftee now and a Cerra equivalent later?
Simples if someone says why not Cerra when the answer is because you can have both otherwise by going to the draft using vision and patience.
In fact if you want to rebuild/refresh as quick as possible you go to the draft because you can utilise the double whammy scenario like Melbourne did from getting out of a crap heap despite passing on Dusty
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I'd like Cerra but not for near 700k and/or two first round picks.
If we can get him for a first and a shuffle of later picks plus Narkle for a 3rd rounder we'd be laughing.
Bolton, prestia, rcd, narkle, cerra, Graham plus stints from cotchin, Edwards and dusty and our midfield is set for the future.
If we can get him for a first and a shuffle of later picks plus Narkle for a 3rd rounder we'd be laughing.
Bolton, prestia, rcd, narkle, cerra, Graham plus stints from cotchin, Edwards and dusty and our midfield is set for the future.
I just dont see the game winning potential or the game changing ability in Cerra
Has a nice kick but doesnt have the mongrel to get in and smash through to get the ball
The only thing that come to my mind is he is a 'Nice' player that would be 'Nice' to have and he has 'Nice' kick on him
he is a 'Nice' player but certainly not star A grader
Freo have offered him $750k x 4 years to keep him and he is 'thinking about that'
$500k x 4 years with trade value 1x 1sr rounder around the #12-#15 range - I'm ok with that
anything more - Pass
But i rather we take our picks to the draft an get some nice young KPF & KPD on min coin saving our cap space for our young players
or bringing in a Star when Cotchin,Houli , Astbury , Jack have retired
Has a nice kick but doesnt have the mongrel to get in and smash through to get the ball
The only thing that come to my mind is he is a 'Nice' player that would be 'Nice' to have and he has 'Nice' kick on him
he is a 'Nice' player but certainly not star A grader
Freo have offered him $750k x 4 years to keep him and he is 'thinking about that'
$500k x 4 years with trade value 1x 1sr rounder around the #12-#15 range - I'm ok with that
anything more - Pass
But i rather we take our picks to the draft an get some nice young KPF & KPD on min coin saving our cap space for our young players
or bringing in a Star when Cotchin,Houli , Astbury , Jack have retired
We are pushing contracts back
Lynch contract was $500k for the first 3 years then big the last 4 years and thats where we are going
Martin still has 3 years at very big coin and we have balta / Bolton / Baker increasing
Im thinking our cap space is extremely tight and any player we might pay overs for we will try push back and we then get into collingwood territory
Ralph Carr isn’t your typical player manager. Running a boutique company, he is the AFL’s version of Jerry Maguire. Meet one of footy’s most interesting men.
A golden gloves teenage champion and ‘would take a bullet’ for a client, manager Ralph Carr brings a distinctive flavour when it comes to looking after this clients across all platforms.
Responsible for a swag of Richmond footballers, Carr opens up on his work ethic, what he expects from his players and those comparisons to Jerry Maguire.
MR: RCM Sport is a boutique management company. What is boutique?
RC: Being boutique grants me the capacity to provide higher quality, personal care to clients. It’s all about quality over quantity. I can see to my clients personally, rather than running through a filtration system. Often times elite athletes need to be in a space they feel safe enough to confide and work through a dynamic array of circumstances. By being boutique, I offer this space and can spend quality time with my clients.
MR: Kate Ceberano once said of you: “He has incredible work ethic and would take a bullet for an artist he really believes in.’’ What does she mean by bullet?
RC: I assume, like most artists, they want to feel protected. I hope that’s what I did for Dustin Martin in 2017 when I shielded him from most of the ancillary noise and had his focus on playing great footy. You’d have to ask Kate but I assume she felt very protected … Kate was a special person to work for.
MR: Where did you grow up, Ralph?
RC: I grew up in North Fitzroy and attended the Alfred Crescent State School. Then we moved to the northern suburbs. I also had a run for the Carton thirds, believe or not.
MR: As a nippy rover or nuggety back pocket?
RC: A tough little onballer they called me.
MR: How tough?
RC: I was golden gloves champion at 14 or 15. My uncle was training all the boxing champions, Olympians and he played for Carlton as well. Tommy Altamura was his name.
MR: As a music manager, did you live the rock ’n’ roll lifestyle?
RC: No. I still do the same things now as I did then. I’m up at 5am or 6am every morning, I love going for a run and I do that seven days a week. I do two workouts a day. So, no I didn’t live the rock lifestyle. To me it was business. I enjoyed the ride and I enjoyed the music, but I never really lived the lifestyle they lived.
MR: Justin Leppitsch recently said of you that you were a highly regarded coach/manager to your players. How did that resonate with you?
RC: It felt great. I have a lot of respect for Justin. To get endorsed by someone like him is nice. As a manager, you often don’t get pats on the back and it’s good to get one every now and then I suppose.
MR: Your knowledge of football must be sound and does that allow you to be pretty up front with your players?
RC: My footy knowledge is pretty good. There was a pivotal moment 10 years ago. I used to do a lot of training with Barry Mitchell, Tom’s father, and his footy brain was amazing. We used to talk footy a lot. That gave me confidence and that was roundabout the time I started with Dusty. I didn’t want to cross any lines with the coaches, however I wanted to tell my players what I thought of their game, how they were preparing, and whether they were doing the right things off-season.
MR: So, you’re a home truths kind of manager?
RC: Yes. That’s what happens when you work with us. If you don’t want to abide by those rules, or don’t want to become a professional athlete, or search your maximum potential then we’re the wrong company for you.
MR: Who are your AFL clients?
RC: Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton, Quinton Narkle, Mabior Chol and Daniel Rioli. Funnily enough, being Richmond heavy was entirely unplanned, it happened organically.
MR: How have you been able to brand Dusty when he is a guy who doesn’t talk in depth to the media?
RC: I don’t think it’s necessary for a start. In today’s world with social media, you have the reach. People often ask me that question, but James Dean didn’t speak a lot and was very successful. I don’t think he did any interviews. Brad Pitt didn’t do an interview for 10 years and it didn’t make any difference to his success.
MR: Shai Bolton is 22, is out of contract at the end of the season and is a star. How do you determine what he is worth at Richmond against what he’s worth on the open market?
RC: I’m not speaking for Shai here because his decision was to make the decision at the end of the year and we will weigh up all the options. However, my view is, if any player joins the club and they do all the hard yards from when you are 17, and you play good footy and win two premierships and then you decide to leave … I don’t know if that works for me as a businessman.
MR: You preach loyalty above financial opportunity?
RC: There’s a balance. Opportunity comes into it, but loyalty is very important. I said this when we were exploring opportunities for Dustin … do people explore other work places? This a job, this is their career. If your career is earning X amount and you could go over there and earn more, why wouldn’t you explore that?
MR: How hands on were you when Bolton and Rioli were involved in the nightclub incident?
RC: Very hands on. We needed the club and AFL to understand what happened. My favourite saying is, if you tell the truth you don’t need to remember anything. We sought the truth, we spoke to the club. I was very involved there and in speaking to the AFL. They are terrific kids and it was just a terrible situation they were put in.
MR: Do you accept there is curiosity about the $20,000 donation?
RC: I don’t really want to go into that. However, it was an unfortunate situation. It was an incorrect action. We’ve all made mistakes in our lives and we have to learn from our mistakes and move on.
MR: How do you handle a young fella like Narkle who is in and out of Geelong’s team and looking for regular opportunity?
RC: He’s a super talented man, he just needed some support and love. I speak to him regularly. He could be anything, but do I think we have improvement in him? Yes, we do. The fact he is in and out is because of the Geelong team and their midfield. We accept that, that’s football, he just has to keep playing great football.
MR: That said, does he have to weigh up his future at Geelong?
RC: I think so.
MR: What does a typical Ralph Carr day looks like
RC: One of the great parts of this industry is that, like the music industry, there isn’t what you’d call a typical day. There is differentiation in everything I do. If I’m to manage my athletes in the best way possible, I’m required to be extremely dynamic. My role as a sports manager is to ensure I make it easy for my client to focus on winning. Their time and energy need to be condensed to their athleticism and their sport; not the business side of things. Unlike an agent, a sports manager has more refined attention to detail.
MR: Richmond would be thankful of you.
RC: No I am thankful to the Richmond FC. Blair Hartley (Tigers’ football management) gave me a very special moment this year. He called me one day and he said I had to see him. I said I couldn’t because I had so much on. He stressed he had to see me, that it would take 10 minutes. I was annoyed because I had all this other stuff to do. Anyway, Blair walks in with the premiership cup, puts it on the desk, and says, ‘We wouldn’t have got this without your help, I just wanted to come over and share it with you, you hold it’ and he spoke about what we did. That’s what makes Richmond FC a great organisation. To me that’s my job. My job is to work with everyone. I don’t see the club or the AFL as the enemy, or the media. I see it as we’re all in this together. … and they see a guy who cares about the player, the person and the goal, which is to win a flag.
MR: You’ve been described before as the Jerry Maguire of the AFL. Proud of that moniker?
RC: That’s high praise. That’s me I suppose … We’ve got to live up to that I would think and our results will need to reflect that. When I take on clients, even going back to the early days with Kate Ceberano, Vanessa Amorosi or Tina Arena, I felt this incredible weight on my shoulders, a responsibility to deliver on all fronts. And I still feel that. I still feel every day I’m chasing something. I don‘t know what I’m chasing, but I suppose that’s the passion and drive in me and when that stops I will stop what I’m doing.
MR: How do you think the AFL world perceives you?
RC: I don’t think too heavily about how I’m perceived. What’s most important is how I manage my clients and ensure I do the best I can to support them and the public’s perception of them. It’s known across the industry that I come from a music/entertainment background more so than sport. I’m probably viewed as a tough negotiator, however I feel as though that’s far from the truth.
MR: Describe yourself, Ralph?
RC: I’m diplomatic in my decision making. I certainly try to consider the position from both sides; player and club. I’ve served on the board of Carlton for three years and I very much respect the clubs’ positions and understand the challenges that they can go through.
MR: People would describe you as unique, maybe eccentric. Fair?
RC: I think I am unique because I’m a creative animal. I love what I do. There are plenty of football agents, but I’m a manager, it’s a different thing.
MR: You are from the entertainment world primarily, but why sport?
RC: I love sport. Often times, sports stars are perceived exactly like rock stars. From the beginning of entering the sports industry, I could see the expansion into branding. I wanted to work with people I felt could be champions in their sport. The day I met Dustin Martin, I could see he could be exactly that. Martin transcends his sport. Once you’ve achieved this, you become a star and can do almost anything. After all, isn’t sport entertainment? Dustin Martin has it the “IT’’ factor. That thing, that star quality.
MR: You love him, don’t you?
RC: Yes I do. We’re the best of friends and I feel grateful and blessed I’ve been on the journey with him. He’s a beautiful human being, a caring person, and generous. At times, Shane Martin doesn’t get a lot of credit. He’s been a big part of Dustin’s success.
MR: How do you secure clients?
RC: I don’t chase clients as a rule. I’m a specialised manager who seeks to provide a personable, strategised and luminary experience for each of my clients. I have a visionary mindset when it comes to my clients and if they’re searching for more, they’ll approach me.
MR: Have you refused players who want you to be their manager?
RC: Yes. I’ve met with very high-profile players who weren’t able to accept there was going to be another team player apart from the club and his family, another guy telling him, “This is what we have to do to be successful”. I’ll push my players to get the best out of themselves because as players you don’t want any regret after you’ve finished. If you give it 100 per cent, after footy there will be no regrets.
MR: How many regrets do you have in life?
RC: I never look in the rear view mirror. If I think about it, yes, there would be regrets, but I don’t think about it. I’m a forward thinker. So, what’s next?
THE PLAYERS
DUSTIN MARTIN
There’s a fire which burns inside this kid. There’s a raging bull. He is a gentleman, loyal and a beautiful person, but when he pulls on that guernsey, he’s a raging bull.
DANIEL RIOLI
Just a loveable person … quietly driven
QUINTON NARKLE
Determined person who has incredible talent and future.
MABIOR CHOL
Could be anything! Funny and clever.
SHAI BOLTON
Respectful, quiet, funny, star, future superstar of the AFL.
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Don’t think it’s that bad tbh, yes it’s tight but definitely room for one big signing
Balta and Baker are already signed on who our only younger kids who are due a significant rise apart from CCJ and Bolton
The rest of our core mids like Lambert and Graham are locked away
Cotchin, Houli, and even Jack are either off the books this year completely or paying for peanuts compared to the last few years
Throw in Caddy who we could move on this year as a salary cap dump I think we could have an extra million in our cap over the next two years
The pies screwed themselves by overpaying on players who simply didn’t deserve it
Grundys contract is more than Dusty’s per year and Degeoy’s is equivalent to what lynch is reported to be on
Sidebottom, Pendles, Darcy Moore and Adams would be taking the lions share of the rest
Cox was reported to be on 500 a year as a cherry on top paints a very different picture to the way we have managed our cap
Smooth movers in traffic are fairly valuable though. He wins his fair share on contested ball and can play outside too. Takes plenty of marks. Would be our best kick overall in the middle.
I think 'nice' will be his minimum. Only in his 4th season. Reckon he'd compliment Graham, rcd, dusty, Edwards and bolton nicely.
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I see the value of Cerra in his versatility to play either role (inside or outside) he can win hard balls but his ball use is also top shelf
You don’t find that combination very often at all
You combine his class in traffic getting it into the hands on Bolton with a well placed kick with a guy like RCD feeding it out to him from under a pack
You can see the makings of our midfield set up for the foreseeable future
Yeah 100%. If we can get him on reasonable terms we'd be silly not to. Can still take some quality picks to the draft with the hand we have. Rebuild onnthe run.
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Great read
Ralph Carr isn’t your typical player manager. Running a boutique company, he is the AFL’s version of Jerry Maguire. Meet one of footy’s most interesting men.
A golden gloves teenage champion and ‘would take a bullet’ for a client, manager Ralph Carr brings a distinctive flavour when it comes to looking after this clients across all platforms.
Responsible for a swag of Richmond footballers, Carr opens up on his work ethic, what he expects from his players and those comparisons to Jerry Maguire.
MR: RCM Sport is a boutique management company. What is boutique?
RC: Being boutique grants me the capacity to provide higher quality, personal care to clients. It’s all about quality over quantity. I can see to my clients personally, rather than running through a filtration system. Often times elite athletes need to be in a space they feel safe enough to confide and work through a dynamic array of circumstances. By being boutique, I offer this space and can spend quality time with my clients.
MR: Kate Ceberano once said of you: “He has incredible work ethic and would take a bullet for an artist he really believes in.’’ What does she mean by bullet?
RC: I assume, like most artists, they want to feel protected. I hope that’s what I did for Dustin Martin in 2017 when I shielded him from most of the ancillary noise and had his focus on playing great footy. You’d have to ask Kate but I assume she felt very protected … Kate was a special person to work for.
MR: Where did you grow up, Ralph?
RC: I grew up in North Fitzroy and attended the Alfred Crescent State School. Then we moved to the northern suburbs. I also had a run for the Carton thirds, believe or not.
MR: As a nippy rover or nuggety back pocket?
RC: A tough little onballer they called me.
MR: How tough?
RC: I was golden gloves champion at 14 or 15. My uncle was training all the boxing champions, Olympians and he played for Carlton as well. Tommy Altamura was his name.
MR: As a music manager, did you live the rock ’n’ roll lifestyle?
RC: No. I still do the same things now as I did then. I’m up at 5am or 6am every morning, I love going for a run and I do that seven days a week. I do two workouts a day. So, no I didn’t live the rock lifestyle. To me it was business. I enjoyed the ride and I enjoyed the music, but I never really lived the lifestyle they lived.
MR: Justin Leppitsch recently said of you that you were a highly regarded coach/manager to your players. How did that resonate with you?
RC: It felt great. I have a lot of respect for Justin. To get endorsed by someone like him is nice. As a manager, you often don’t get pats on the back and it’s good to get one every now and then I suppose.
MR: Your knowledge of football must be sound and does that allow you to be pretty up front with your players?
RC: My footy knowledge is pretty good. There was a pivotal moment 10 years ago. I used to do a lot of training with Barry Mitchell, Tom’s father, and his footy brain was amazing. We used to talk footy a lot. That gave me confidence and that was roundabout the time I started with Dusty. I didn’t want to cross any lines with the coaches, however I wanted to tell my players what I thought of their game, how they were preparing, and whether they were doing the right things off-season.
MR: So, you’re a home truths kind of manager?
RC: Yes. That’s what happens when you work with us. If you don’t want to abide by those rules, or don’t want to become a professional athlete, or search your maximum potential then we’re the wrong company for you.
MR: Who are your AFL clients?
RC: Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton, Quinton Narkle, Mabior Chol and Daniel Rioli. Funnily enough, being Richmond heavy was entirely unplanned, it happened organically.
MR: How have you been able to brand Dusty when he is a guy who doesn’t talk in depth to the media?
RC: I don’t think it’s necessary for a start. In today’s world with social media, you have the reach. People often ask me that question, but James Dean didn’t speak a lot and was very successful. I don’t think he did any interviews. Brad Pitt didn’t do an interview for 10 years and it didn’t make any difference to his success.
MR: Shai Bolton is 22, is out of contract at the end of the season and is a star. How do you determine what he is worth at Richmond against what he’s worth on the open market?
RC: I’m not speaking for Shai here because his decision was to make the decision at the end of the year and we will weigh up all the options. However, my view is, if any player joins the club and they do all the hard yards from when you are 17, and you play good footy and win two premierships and then you decide to leave … I don’t know if that works for me as a businessman.
MR: You preach loyalty above financial opportunity?
RC: There’s a balance. Opportunity comes into it, but loyalty is very important. I said this when we were exploring opportunities for Dustin … do people explore other work places? This a job, this is their career. If your career is earning X amount and you could go over there and earn more, why wouldn’t you explore that?
MR: How hands on were you when Bolton and Rioli were involved in the nightclub incident?
RC: Very hands on. We needed the club and AFL to understand what happened. My favourite saying is, if you tell the truth you don’t need to remember anything. We sought the truth, we spoke to the club. I was very involved there and in speaking to the AFL. They are terrific kids and it was just a terrible situation they were put in.
MR: Do you accept there is curiosity about the $20,000 donation?
RC: I don’t really want to go into that. However, it was an unfortunate situation. It was an incorrect action. We’ve all made mistakes in our lives and we have to learn from our mistakes and move on.
MR: How do you handle a young fella like Narkle who is in and out of Geelong’s team and looking for regular opportunity?
RC: He’s a super talented man, he just needed some support and love. I speak to him regularly. He could be anything, but do I think we have improvement in him? Yes, we do. The fact he is in and out is because of the Geelong team and their midfield. We accept that, that’s football, he just has to keep playing great football.
MR: That said, does he have to weigh up his future at Geelong?
RC: I think so.
MR: What does a typical Ralph Carr day looks like
RC: One of the great parts of this industry is that, like the music industry, there isn’t what you’d call a typical day. There is differentiation in everything I do. If I’m to manage my athletes in the best way possible, I’m required to be extremely dynamic. My role as a sports manager is to ensure I make it easy for my client to focus on winning. Their time and energy need to be condensed to their athleticism and their sport; not the business side of things. Unlike an agent, a sports manager has more refined attention to detail.
MR: Richmond would be thankful of you.
RC: No I am thankful to the Richmond FC. Blair Hartley (Tigers’ football management) gave me a very special moment this year. He called me one day and he said I had to see him. I said I couldn’t because I had so much on. He stressed he had to see me, that it would take 10 minutes. I was annoyed because I had all this other stuff to do. Anyway, Blair walks in with the premiership cup, puts it on the desk, and says, ‘We wouldn’t have got this without your help, I just wanted to come over and share it with you, you hold it’ and he spoke about what we did. That’s what makes Richmond FC a great organisation. To me that’s my job. My job is to work with everyone. I don’t see the club or the AFL as the enemy, or the media. I see it as we’re all in this together. … and they see a guy who cares about the player, the person and the goal, which is to win a flag.
MR: You’ve been described before as the Jerry Maguire of the AFL. Proud of that moniker?
RC: That’s high praise. That’s me I suppose … We’ve got to live up to that I would think and our results will need to reflect that. When I take on clients, even going back to the early days with Kate Ceberano, Vanessa Amorosi or Tina Arena, I felt this incredible weight on my shoulders, a responsibility to deliver on all fronts. And I still feel that. I still feel every day I’m chasing something. I don‘t know what I’m chasing, but I suppose that’s the passion and drive in me and when that stops I will stop what I’m doing.
MR: How do you think the AFL world perceives you?
RC: I don’t think too heavily about how I’m perceived. What’s most important is how I manage my clients and ensure I do the best I can to support them and the public’s perception of them. It’s known across the industry that I come from a music/entertainment background more so than sport. I’m probably viewed as a tough negotiator, however I feel as though that’s far from the truth.
MR: Describe yourself, Ralph?
RC: I’m diplomatic in my decision making. I certainly try to consider the position from both sides; player and club. I’ve served on the board of Carlton for three years and I very much respect the clubs’ positions and understand the challenges that they can go through.
MR: People would describe you as unique, maybe eccentric. Fair?
RC: I think I am unique because I’m a creative animal. I love what I do. There are plenty of football agents, but I’m a manager, it’s a different thing.
MR: You are from the entertainment world primarily, but why sport?
RC: I love sport. Often times, sports stars are perceived exactly like rock stars. From the beginning of entering the sports industry, I could see the expansion into branding. I wanted to work with people I felt could be champions in their sport. The day I met Dustin Martin, I could see he could be exactly that. Martin transcends his sport. Once you’ve achieved this, you become a star and can do almost anything. After all, isn’t sport entertainment? Dustin Martin has it the “IT’’ factor. That thing, that star quality.
MR: You love him, don’t you?
RC: Yes I do. We’re the best of friends and I feel grateful and blessed I’ve been on the journey with him. He’s a beautiful human being, a caring person, and generous. At times, Shane Martin doesn’t get a lot of credit. He’s been a big part of Dustin’s success.
MR: How do you secure clients?
RC: I don’t chase clients as a rule. I’m a specialised manager who seeks to provide a personable, strategised and luminary experience for each of my clients. I have a visionary mindset when it comes to my clients and if they’re searching for more, they’ll approach me.
MR: Have you refused players who want you to be their manager?
RC: Yes. I’ve met with very high-profile players who weren’t able to accept there was going to be another team player apart from the club and his family, another guy telling him, “This is what we have to do to be successful”. I’ll push my players to get the best out of themselves because as players you don’t want any regret after you’ve finished. If you give it 100 per cent, after footy there will be no regrets.
MR: How many regrets do you have in life?
RC: I never look in the rear view mirror. If I think about it, yes, there would be regrets, but I don’t think about it. I’m a forward thinker. So, what’s next?
THE PLAYERS
DUSTIN MARTIN
There’s a fire which burns inside this kid. There’s a raging bull. He is a gentleman, loyal and a beautiful person, but when he pulls on that guernsey, he’s a raging bull.
DANIEL RIOLI
Just a loveable person … quietly driven
QUINTON NARKLE
Determined person who has incredible talent and future.
MABIOR CHOL
Could be anything! Funny and clever.
SHAI BOLTON
Respectful, quiet, funny, star, future superstar of the AFL.
I used to hate the campaigner
But the more about Ralph we get to learn the more respect I have for him
It’s not often that player managers get praise from people inside AFL clubs
Especially the way Clarke seems to have the upmost respect for how he goes about it
Lets just have a look at a comparison to get an indication as to his value
Jack Graham v Adam Cerra
Adam Cerra and Jack Graham AFL Stats Comparison
Adam Cerra and Jack Graham AFL Stats Comparison.
www.footywire.com
Yeah seems like he has a great mutual relationship with the club.
Sounds like Narkle is on the move too...
Now compare them at the same age. JG is nearly 2 years older and as it turns out an absolute steal at the draft.
They'd be a great duo.
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Cerra is ahead of Graham in basically every single stat that you value out of a midfielder apart from tackles and is two years younger with plenty of scope for improvement
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Welcome to tigerland sparkle
Really !!!
Goals , Tackles , DE % are the things i value the most
Cerra is getting 3 touches a game more whilst playing a free game where Graham is playing a more defensive mid game/role
The point i was making is the there is very very little difference in output and this is player we got for pick #53
Cerra is a top 5 pick and freo supporters talking about 2 x 1st rounder.
Mids that kick goals are worth big , Cerra is not a goal kicking mid
Leppa sems to think along these lines as well
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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you the biggest Cerra fan pushing for us to recruit him over the last 2 years? Now when we might be a chance of snaring him you've seemingly jumped off suggesting he is not worth the chase. Can I ask why? I see you saying he is a nice kick and a nice player, but IIRC not that long ago he was, in your opinion, the one that we had to get no matter what.
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We don’t need a goal kicking mid right now or to spend big money we have Dusty still playing fantastic footy and Bolton to be the one who’s dangerous on the scoreboard
We need guys who can win their own ball and effectively feed it out to the outside into the hands of guys like Graham and Bolton who are great kicks on the run and when in space
Contested possies and clearances are the stats we get smashed in every week with Cotchin the only one of our players who can post decent numbers in these categories on a consistent basis
The player you are highlighting is a mid forward or Graham who is a defensive mid
What we need is a mid.
Cerra fits that need perfectly as an inside/outside midfielder
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