List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 2

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THE_GUN said:
No Chance he would be on $500k a year
$250k-$300k with some triggers at most
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It’s in this article but there’s a pay wall. The article could be wrong though

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PremiershipTigers said:
Lol, Ryder went down i the last 20 seconds of the match...and how many ruckman lead a team for tackles in a final? Or pressure acts? You must be talking about Noby Tankervis, beacuse I don't think we are talking about the same player here.
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Last 20 seconds of the match before we had to play them the next week. As someone who watched a lot of Saints I was incredibly relieved that he did go down as he would have dominated Nank in the ruck had he played. Seriously good player is Ryder even at this point of his career.

Thats great but its one or two games a year and it results in Nank giving everything he has got. He is a battler and has a massive heart but what takes him all of his efforts requires the elite ruckman of our game and our very own Soldo little effort. Even if you look at the Port and St.Kilda finals Nank was very poor in the first half of those games before finishing with massive last quarters. He struggles to give four quarters efforts because as big as he is, the guys he comes up against are bigger and hand out more punishment.

If picking out of Soldo and Nank for a spot in the side you would sum it up like this. Against Goldstein, Grundy, Nic Nat and Gawn you pick Soldo, against the likes of Stanley, Marshall and Sinclair you would pick Nank. So getting back the original topic of earning a pay rise, lets say Nank is on 500,000k a year and you're offering an extra 150,000k if you're Blair Hartley are you going to spend an extra 150,000k a year just to keep him. On a one year deal with Soldo out for that year you would but given it was a three year deal and Soldo will be back Im not committing an extra 450,000k over the life of that contract.

I don't think the above figures would be anywhere near correct but if anything Nank would have been given a significant pay rise on his previous contract at the start of 2018 when his value was at its peak and not now where he is coming off 3 good games. I doubt he would have been given a pay rise and if he truly wants to be at the club and wants to continue having success I wouldn't be surprised if he signed for less this time around. In fact he most likely did given the salary cap will likely fall and players are going to be earning less.
 
Tomnat Tigers said:
Last 20 seconds of the match before we had to play them the next week. As someone who watched a lot of Saints I was incredibly relieved that he did go down as he would have dominated Nank in the ruck had he played. Seriously good player is Ryder even at this point of his career.

Thats great but its one or two games a year and it results in Nank giving everything he has got. He is a battler and has a massive heart but what takes him all of his efforts requires the elite ruckman of our game and our very own Soldo little effort. Even if you look at the Port and St.Kilda finals Nank was very poor in the first half of those games before finishing with massive last quarters. He struggles to give four quarters efforts because as big as he is, the guys he comes up against are bigger and hand out more punishment.

If picking out of Soldo and Nank for a spot in the side you would sum it up like this. Against Goldstein, Grundy, Nic Nat and Gawn you pick Soldo, against the likes of Stanley, Marshall and Sinclair you would pick Nank. So getting back the original topic of earning a pay rise, lets say Nank is on 500,000k a year and you're offering an extra 150,000k if you're Blair Hartley are you going to spend an extra 150,000k a year just to keep him. On a one year deal with Soldo out for that year you would but given it was a three year deal and Soldo will be back Im not committing an extra 450,000k over the life of that contract.

I don't think the above figures would be anywhere near correct but if anything Nank would have been given a significant pay rise on his previous contract at the start of 2018 when his value was at its peak and not now where he is coming off 3 good games. I doubt he would have been given a pay rise and if he truly wants to be at the club and wants to continue having success I wouldn't be surprised if he signed for less this time around. In fact he most likely did given the salary cap will likely fall and players are going to be earning less.
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Supply & Demand

The Demand for a Ruckman this trade period is huge and some big players that base their games on a good ruckman is there
GWS - Went for Preuss after Nank signed
Sydney are desperate and are now looking at Hickey and their list boss has gone on record about letting go of Nank
Geelong - Would jump at Nank before Isaac Smith and Shaun Higgins
Western Bulldogs - This is the club thats been into him all year and would have had a fantastic offer for him and are now settling for Martin

Nank has not been well paid so far and has 3 premiership medals and looking for cash. We did get him at a discount but he is not playing for peanuts with Soldo out next year and who knows how he comes back after a knee to a 204cm 110kg ruckman that needs his knee's
CCJ - Who knows
 
Conca Cuddle said:
Pretty sure I read that Pickett signed $500,000 a year for 2 years.

Happy to be proved wrong, but if true, it’s far more than I’d have thought.


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Not a chance he would be on that much, that's more than most in the team. Put it this way, if we did we effed it up royally.
 
theflea said:
Not a chance he would be on that much, that's more than most in the team. Put it this way, if we did we effed it up royally.
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No Chance $500k a year maybe $500k over 2 years

Dont also forget that Pickett has written a book which only Richmond supporters would buy and if he makes $10 a book x 50,000
thats $500k he never had before






p.s Just had a thought
We could trade for Treloar and tell him take a $200k pay cut and Pies pay $200k so that brings him down to $500k a year then he can write book
" Why i left the pies and came to win a flag at the Tigers with a better club"

sells 300,000 copies makes $10 a copy $3,000,000
 
THE_GUN said:
Supply & Demand

The Demand for a Ruckman this trade period is huge and some big players that base their games on a good ruckman is there
GWS - Went for Preuss after Nank signed
Sydney are desperate and are now looking at Hickey and their list boss has gone on record about letting go of Nank
Geelong - Would jump at Nank before Isaac Smith and Shaun Higgins
Western Bulldogs - This is the club thats been into him all year and would have had a fantastic offer for him and are now settling for Martin

Nank has not been well paid so far and has 3 premiership medals and looking for cash. We did get him at a discount but he is not playing for peanuts with Soldo out next year and who knows how he comes back after a knee to a 204cm 110kg ruckman that needs his knee's
CCJ - Who knows
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Supply and demand means **** all if a player isn't prepared to leave their club or if the club who wants him can't afford to overpay him to make it a worthwhile move.
GWS have gone after Pruess as he is the cheapest option and less than a month ago were under pressure with their salary cap. Sydney aren't at the stage where they need a ruckman and should be looking to overpay to get one in. Geelong can't afford to make a big offer to make it worth Nank jumping ship and would be better off getting North to pay a significant portion of Goldstein salary and in doing so get one of the best in the competition. Dogs already have English who is there no.1 they are looking for a player like Nank to shoulder that load but there not going to use up 5% of their salary cap to do so.

Nank signed a one year contract extension in 2018, the only reason to sign a one year contract extension is to renegotiate the other years on much better terms. Lets say he come across on 300k a year, he then would have bumped his pay to probably about 450k and he has done anything since then for a long enough period of time to suggest he is worth anymore.
 
I thought I’d heard Pickett was heading home. If there was genuine competitor interest, you’d think our offer would have had to be more than $250k per year. He has to cash in now to some degree.

I got through to one of the sites and it said just under a million for the two year contract. Most of the time the media are pretty close to deal specifics, everyone is running with $500k for Caldwell, $900k for Williams etc. It could be wrong, but I’m worried it’s probably very close.

For what it’s worth, I value him around the sums you lot have thrown about.


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Tomnat Tigers said:
Supply and demand means fu** all if a player isn't prepared to leave their club or if the club who wants him can't afford to overpay him to make it a worthwhile investment.
GWS have gone after Pruess as he is the cheapest option and less than a month ago were under pressure with their salary cap. Sydney aren't at the stage where they need a ruckman and should be looking to overpay to get one in. Geelong can't afford to make a big offer to make it worth Nank jumping ship and would be better off getting North to pay a significant portion of Goldstein salary and in doing so get one of the best in the competition. Dogs already have English who is there no.1 they are looking for a player like Nank to shoulder that load but there not going to use up 5% of their salary cap to do so.

Nank signed a one year contract extension in 2018, the only reason to sign a one year contract extension is to renegotiate the other years on much better terms. Lets say he come across on 300k a year, he then would have bumped his pay to probably about 450k and he has done anything since then for a long enough period of time to suggest he is worth anymore.
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*Supply and demand means fu** all if a player isn't prepared to leave their club or if the club who wants him can't afford to overpay him to make it a worthwhile investment.
The Doggies can afford him and Wanted him

*GWS have gone after Pruess as he is the cheapest option and less than a month ago were under pressure with their salary cap
GWS dont have a Salary cap issue with Cameron , Caldwell ,Corr , Langdon , Hately , Williams all gone Thats over $3 mil off their cap
And Preuss was on $450k at the Deemons you think he is giving that up and moving to sydney for less ? Dreaming

*and he has done anything since then for a long enough period of time to suggest he is worth anymore.
Ohhh Yeah he has , He was a premiership Ruckman in 2029 & 2020 after 2018
 
THE_GUN said:
*Supply and demand means fu** all if a player isn't prepared to leave their club or if the club who wants him can't afford to overpay him to make it a worthwhile investment.
The Doggies can afford him and Wanted him

*GWS have gone after Pruess as he is the cheapest option and less than a month ago were under pressure with their salary cap
GWS dont have a Salary cap issue with Cameron , Caldwell ,Corr , Langdon , Hately , Williams all gone Thats over $3 mil off their cap
And Preuss was on $450k at the Deemons you think he is giving that up and moving to sydney for less ? Dreaming

*and he has done anything since then for a long enough period of time to suggest he is worth anymore.
Ohhh Yeah he has , He was a premiership Ruckman in 2029 & 2020 after 2018
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The doggies would have one of the tighest salary caps in the league. Plenty of star power, a couple of additions like Bruce and Keath last year and a few up and coming stars who will be due for a big contract.

A month ago GWS were preparing for Cameron to stay and were prepared to let Williams and Corr leave to ease their salary cap. Hately and Caldwell were on their first contracts and Langdon signed an extension having played two AFL games. Those guys weren't effecting their salary cap. Pruess is a ****ing dud who was stupidly overpaid by Melbourne and clubs had very interest in him, GWS desperation is the only reason he has landed at another club. Had they known Cameron was leaving and Nank hadn't resigned they might have gone in for him but it was too late.

Being a premiership player means very little when determining someone worth. The sooner some of you guys realise this the better. Gawn, Goldstein, Nic Nat and Grundy don't have premiership medals but Im sure if they had been out of contract heading into this trade period their names would have dominated the headlines, unlike Nank who was re-signed with very little fuss.
 
AFL premiers Tigers re-sign Broad, Pickett


Three-time premiership defender Nathan Broad has rejected interest from Gold Coast to re-sign with Richmond on a two-year deal, while wingman Marlion Pickett has earned a well-deserved pay rise.

Broad recently became the quickest player in the AFL era to win three flags (70 games), and the Suns were keen to poach him for next year.

But the 27-year-old decided to stick with the Tigers for at least another two years.

The Suns will now turn their attention to signing Richmond defender Oleg Markov, who was an emergency for this year's grand final and is keen to join Gold Coast.

Pickett has proven to be a fairytale story since being taken by Richmond in the mid-season draft last year just a week after breaking his finger.

The 28-year-old recovered to make his AFL debut in last year's grand final win over Greater Western Sydney, and he now has two flags in just 20 games after being part of the side that beat Geelong in this year's decider.

Pickett has been on a basement salary for the past two years, but his new two-year deal is reportedly worth close to $1 million.

Rookie small forward Jake Aarts, who kicked 14 goals in 14 games this season, has also re-signed on a two-year deal.

"Since coming to the club from the WAFL and VFL respectively each player has worked hard to establish themselves at AFL level and contribute to our recent success," Richmond's general manager of football talent Blair Hartley said.

"The premierships have been a fantastic reward for Nathan and Marlion, and Jake is another who had a terrific season and significant impact this year."


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AFL premiers Tigers re-sign Broad, Pickett

Three-time premiership defender Nathan Broad has rejected interest from Gold Coast to re-sign with Richmond on a two-year...
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THE THIN MAN said:
AFL premiers Tigers re-sign Broad, Pickett


Three-time premiership defender Nathan Broad has rejected interest from Gold Coast to re-sign with Richmond on a two-year deal, while wingman Marlion Pickett has earned a well-deserved pay rise.

Broad recently became the quickest player in the AFL era to win three flags (70 games), and the Suns were keen to poach him for next year.

But the 27-year-old decided to stick with the Tigers for at least another two years.

The Suns will now turn their attention to signing Richmond defender Oleg Markov, who was an emergency for this year's grand final and is keen to join Gold Coast.

Pickett has proven to be a fairytale story since being taken by Richmond in the mid-season draft last year just a week after breaking his finger.

The 28-year-old recovered to make his AFL debut in last year's grand final win over Greater Western Sydney, and he now has two flags in just 20 games after being part of the side that beat Geelong in this year's decider.

Pickett has been on a basement salary for the past two years, but his new two-year deal is reportedly worth close to $1 million.

Rookie small forward Jake Aarts, who kicked 14 goals in 14 games this season, has also re-signed on a two-year deal.

"Since coming to the club from the WAFL and VFL respectively each player has worked hard to establish themselves at AFL level and contribute to our recent success," Richmond's general manager of football talent Blair Hartley said.

"The premierships have been a fantastic reward for Nathan and Marlion, and Jake is another who had a terrific season and significant impact this year."


www.canberratimes.com.au

AFL premiers Tigers re-sign Broad, Pickett

Three-time premiership defender Nathan Broad has rejected interest from Gold Coast to re-sign with Richmond on a two-year...
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Lazy journalism with just looking at what he has done in 20 games and says reported "Where"

No Chance he will be on that type of cash for the position he plays and his standing at the club , He would be in the bottom 6 players in our best 22
specially being the age he is with no other club chasing him.
 
THE_GUN said:
I think i we did get that Big fish we would have seen a few leave like broad & Higgins
we really are not that comfortable with TPP space
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I was more talking about 2014-2016, where we struck out on a number of targets and had to keep folding that money into front ending our stars. From what was explained to us on here at the time we should be gaining cap space on some of that older players.


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NZ_Tiger said:
I was more talking about 2014-2016, where we struck out on a number of targets and had to keep folding that money into front ending our stars. From what was explained to us on here at the time we should be gaining cap space on some of that older players.


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You can only pay 95% of the cap for 2 years and you usually do front end contracts but every contract on our books would have cycled and new contracts been re committed to since with only Caddy and Prestia contracts from 2017 remaining. But when contracts get extended like Cotchin Riewoldt & Rance when Lynch came in that usually means we are back ending their money (treloar like)
 
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