List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 7

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Just go with Bauer if the trade becomes too much of a hassle, and pick up someone like Emerson Jeka as a delisted free agent for depth

25 lmao bloke was in the 2s all year and theyre bottom 4
 

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We sure did get the raw end of the deal on the Ellis compo pick compared to Lycett and Motlop compensation.
Even as [SIZE=3]Tiger Toffee[/SIZE] said, cats did well out of the Ablett deal.

Cats gainCats give up
Pick 19 (2017 national draft)Steven Motlop
Gary Ablett & Pick 24 (2017 national draft)Pick 19 (2017 national draft)

*The West Coast Eagles have elected not to match the offer and Scott Lycett is now able to join Port Adelaide immediately.
West Coast have been awarded a compensation pick immediately after the last selection of the first round — currently, pick 20.
You're comparing deals done in 2017 & 2018 with a deal done in 2019. There was no conspiracy to rob us of a pick, We had the opportunity to match the bid and force a trade if we wanted to, but because we didn't want to risk having to sign Brandon to a $600k a year deal we opted not to match, thinking we would get the band 2 compo pick that was awarded the 2 years before, because of the similar value in the deals.

IMO, I believe we failed to take into account was that more players were earning more than $600k a season when Ellis was offered his deal, compared to the previous couple of years and gambled that we'd get the same compo, but we ended up with the band 3 compo instead.
 


Just go with Bauer if the trade becomes too much of a hassle, and pick up someone like Emerson Jeka as a delisted free agent for depth

Hawks rate Kosi as pick 25 but have only offered him a 1 year deal?

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Just go with Bauer if the trade becomes too much of a hassle, and pick up someone like Emerson Jeka as a delisted free agent for depth

Hawks are delusional

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Just go with Bauer if the trade becomes too much of a hassle, and pick up someone like Emerson Jeka as a delisted free agent for depth

They probably shouldn't have kept him in the VFL for so long if that's their valuation of him.
 

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Just go with Bauer if the trade becomes too much of a hassle, and pick up someone like Emerson Jeka as a delisted free agent for depth

So they offer Chol 4 years and Jacob 1 year yet somehow Chol is worth less. Yeah that makes sense. Dimma obviously been supplying to their list management team
 
If we don't hold firm here..I'll just about not renew my membership. What they are asking for is a disgrace. They would be lucky to receive a 3rd round pick for him, AT BEST. future 3rd or 4th is more his worth, considering he's borderline delisted. No other club would be giving up anything better than a 3rd round. Hold firm, or no trade.
 

You’d think Western Bulldogs was in the bottom 4 for the last few years with the amount of top 5 picks they got in that time. JUH at pick 1, Darcy at pick 3, and probably whoever they’re picking this year. Their father-son this year is apparently worth a first-rounder as well.
 
You're comparing deals done in 2017 & 2018 with a deal done in 2019. There was no conspiracy to rob us of a pick, We had the opportunity to match the bid and force a trade if we wanted to, but because we didn't want to risk having to sign Brandon to a $600k a year deal we opted not to match, thinking we would get the band 2 compo pick that was awarded the 2 years before, because of the similar value in the deals.

IMO, I believe we failed to take into account was that more players were earning more than $600k a season when Ellis was offered his deal, compared to the previous couple of years and gambled that we'd get the same compo, but we ended up with the band 3 compo instead.

Yes, Gale thought we should've got the end of the first round, heck we all thought the same. 5 years at 600K+ a year covers both the length and total value amount. Cornes and others in the media kicked up a stink and that's why we didn't get it.
AFL changes the rules to suit its own agenda. Whether it's the compo picks, or Hocking stand rule. 666 rule
 
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You’d think Western Bulldogs was in the bottom 4 for the last few years with the amount of top 5 picks they got in that time. JUH at pick 1, Darcy at pick 3, and probably whoever they’re picking this year. Their father-son this year is apparently worth a first-rounder as well.

Croft. Another big.

They have been blessed. Meanwhile we get shit father sons and our NGA zone is disgraceful.

We are a long way back.
 
Dusty's mates with Ginnivan. We should pounce now they're getting Schultz. Being a d@ckhead aside. Sad fact is he's an upgrade on all our small forwards. I have zero faith that MRJ and Mansell and possibly ever Coulthard will do anything next year. Have hopes for Judson but he's groomed to play Lambert's old role.

We need blokes who can actually kick goals. You don't win an ANZAC day medal as a 20yo if you're not a matchwinner. Has MRJ ever been in the top 12 players in a single game?
I’ll try to keep the bile down if it happens but I see your logic.
 
Croft. Another big.

They have been blessed. Meanwhile we get s**t father sons and our NGA zone is disgraceful.

We are a long way back.
Big asterisk if that team ends up winning a Premiership

Meanwhile, we have to do it all ourselves
 
Koschitzke = out of contract, only offered 1 year deal to stay = 2nd round pick.

Chol = contracted for 2 years, offered 5 year deal = 3rd round pick

This is how clubs get awful reputations like Essendon.
Spot on! No way we will pay that price, especially given what they are spruiking to pay for Chol, they are having a laugh surely. Rarely would I suggest this, but, grab him in the PSD. I’d be shocked if any other club took him, especially if we price his deal to achieve an outcome
 
Big asterisk if that team ends up winning a Premiership

Meanwhile, we have to do it all ourselves
if that was us getting that many first round father sons, afl wouldve changed the father son rule straight away
 
we need to trade out Nank,not Ivan,harsh:shrug: but Nank is a slow mid n we're over stocked with em,nows the time to move him on
watching him in other colors will bring the realisation that he is indeed a sh** follower now,we got the maximum outta him

Ivans on the up,Nanks trailing south,n has been for 18 months,its a no brainer,keeping Nank is stifling our progress
We are not going to trade out Nank so it really is a pointless argument.
 
There’s absolutely no way Blair pays that for Koschitzke.

If he does, I’ll be demanding his resignation. Truly awful. But I have faith he’s smarter than that. My only concern is we have ignored that in our list build that desperation comes into it as the week and a bit drags on.
The player is UNCONTRACTED. walk him to the PSD if they continue with this nonsense
 
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