List Mgmt. Trade Period 2016 - The Live Freo Thread

[Simmofreo]

Kersten to Freo is done is what i read into the Geelong List manager Steven Wells on Trade radio. He said he has an offer from Fremantle, Shane has gone over to dscuss with Freo and we are waiting for Shane and Freo to let us know their decision

No ambiguity there

 

[Lach72]

 

[Simmofreo]

Man. Looks like Hawks are going to end up with Omera, Vikery and Tom Mitchell at the least. They just never go down do they

 

[Cobbler]

Taranto has moved up, but if he hasn't he is a steal at pick 7. We may very well have our sights on English. He shouldn't go top 10.

 

[Malc]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The top end of the draft could look something like this at the end of the NAB Trade Period... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TradeSENtral?src=hash">#TradeSENtral</a> <a href="https://t.co/jOtzwNtO2l">pic.twitter.com/jOtzwNtO2l</a></p>&mdash; Brett Anderson (@BrettAndersonIF) <a href="">October 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Taylor]

Huddo is back!

 

[BStaff17]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The top end of the draft could look something like this at the end of the NAB Trade Period... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TradeSENtral?src=hash">#TradeSENtral</a> <a href="https://t.co/jOtzwNtO2l">pic.twitter.com/jOtzwNtO2l</a></p>&mdash; Brett Anderson (@BrettAndersonIF) <a href="">October 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Sounds strange after all their stubboness that GWS couls give us picks 5 and 7 for mccarthy just for pick 3 in return

 

[Lach72]

 

[Clems Knee]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The top end of the draft could look something like this at the end of the NAB Trade Period... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TradeSENtral?src=hash">#TradeSENtral</a> <a href="https://t.co/jOtzwNtO2l">pic.twitter.com/jOtzwNtO2l</a></p>&mdash; Brett Anderson (@BrettAndersonIF) <a href="">October 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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That would be beyond awesome.

 

[Malc]

Sounds strange after all their stubboness that GWS couls give us picks 5 and 7 for mccarthy just for pick 3 in return

Someone with a greater understanding of the academy system may be able to shed some light... however the pick 3 is significantly more valuable to them than it is to us as it allows them to take pick three in the draft and then use a later pick to take their academy players. Provided neither Essendon nor Brisbane bid their pick 1 or 2 (unlikely).

 

[Taylor]

Someone with a greater understanding of the academy system may be able to shed some light... however the pick 3 is significantly more valuable to them than it is to us as it allows them to take pick three in the draft and then use a later pick to take their academy players. Provided neither Essendon nor Brisbane bid their pick 1 or 2 (unlikely).

Exactly, they stand to lose two of their first round picks if a bid came at three but if they have that pick they take someone not on their academy list and it moves their next possible matched bid is beyond pick #7.

I need to pad that out a bit;
A bid at pick #2 = an academy pick matching of pick #4.
A bid at pick #3 = an academy pick matching of pick #6.

Those are approximate point equivalences.

 

[Malc]

Exactly, they stand to lose two of their first round picks if a bid came at three but if they have that pick they take someone not on their academy list and it moves their next possible matched bid is beyond pick #7.

I need to pad that out a bit;
A bid at pick #2 = an academy pick matching of pick #4.
A bid at pick #3 = an academy pick matching of pick #6.

Those are approximate point equivalences.

All of a sudden GWS are in need of our pick 3... McCarthy just became the steak knives.

 

[FreoBulldog]

If we were to get 5, 7 and McCarthy for pick 3....that would be huge! We could get Sps and English/ Logue. Fingers crossed that this happens.

 

[Wizard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The top end of the draft could look something like this at the end of the NAB Trade Period... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TradeSENtral?src=hash">#TradeSENtral</a> <a href="https://t.co/jOtzwNtO2l">pic.twitter.com/jOtzwNtO2l</a></p>&mdash; Brett Anderson (@BrettAndersonIF) <a href="">October 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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They must absolutely adore this McGrath kid.

 

[Malc]

They must absolutely adore this McGrath kid.

Isn't that the point of the deal though? Instead of using their two first rounders to get McGrath they end up with pick 3 + McGrath?

 

[Wizard]

Isn't that the point of the deal though? Instead of using their two first rounders to get McGrath they end up with pick 3 + McGrath?

They do? How does that work?

I'm obviously missing something here if thats the case.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Isn't that the point of the deal though? Instead of using their two first rounders to get McGrath they end up with pick 3 + McGrath?

The point of the deal is no body will bid on their accademy kids until pick 9, which means they get them as a bargain

 

[Lach72]

The point of the deal is no body will bid on their accademy kids until pick 9, which means they get them as a bargain

McGrath is not academy

 

[Malc]

They do? How does that work?

I'm obviously missing something here if thats the case.

Let’s assume Essendon and Brisbane don’t bid for McGrath.. GWS use us jump up the queue to use Pick 3 in the draft. The bid from an opposition club for their academy player comes post pick 3 and GWS then get to use their later picks to match the bid.

I believe that’s the theory. But I’m not full bottle on the points system.

 

[Lach72]

Let’s assume Essendon and Brisbane don’t bid for McGrath.. GWS use us jump up the queue to use Pick 3 in the draft. The bid from an opposition club for their academy player comes post pick 3 and GWS then get to use their later picks to match the bid.

I believe that’s the theory. But I’m not full bottle on the points system.

You're right but it's not McGrath. He's not academy.
They take McGrath at 3 then use shit picks on academy guys

 

[Malc]

McGrath is not academy

Sorry, wasn't actually sure which player is their academy kid... just know they want one, hence the need for pick 3 to push the bid down the order. Was just quoting the name Wizard mentioned

 

[Taylor]

An interesting quirk of the academy bidding system is that after the first round the discount applied stops being 20% and is locked at a firm 197 points.

If you thought a pick #3 player for pick #6 was a healthy discount, pick #56 = any pick after #75

 

[Wizard]

So in essence for once we could actually come out of this whole academy crap with an advantageous position.

 

[Carnthedockers]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The top end of the draft could look something like this at the end of the NAB Trade Period... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TradeSENtral?src=hash">#TradeSENtral</a> <a href="https://t.co/jOtzwNtO2l">pic.twitter.com/jOtzwNtO2l</a></p>&mdash; Brett Anderson (@BrettAndersonIF) <a href="">October 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Id be ok with only a 2 pick drop. When we could ask gws not to touch our player. Not much in it for them though, only puts them above brisbane..

 

[Malc]

It's nice that for once it's us that has a chance to exploit the system...