Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 4 - thread rules updated

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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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Over 430,000 Russian have been killed in 2024 alone in Ukraine all for a little man's ego
Since their illegal invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 they must have had over a million killed.
The US lost 670K casualties in WW2, but helped liberate Europe and the Pacific.
Russia captured 1% of Ukraine :drunk:
 
Executions of service personnel during the war:

Deputy UN rights chief Nada Al-Nashif, speaking to the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva:
Overall, since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine began on February 24, 2022, the office had "verified the execution of 68 Ukrainian service personnel captured by Russian armed forces".

Not just one-way, either:
"Our office has documented the death of one Russian prisoner of war and has raised these allegations with the Prosecutor General of Ukraine," Al-Nashif said.

 
Really intriguing video about Chernihiv's precarious situation in the first weeks of the invasion. Highly recommend, even if the bloke's muffled accent is a bit tricky to decrypt. I've just subscribed to this channel as he seems to have other similar deep dives.

Notable:
  • Chernihiv surrounded on 3 sides with the roads on the fourth side also cut, further out.
  • Battalions formed within hours from civilians.
  • Even the final bridge taken out of commission, so resupply immediately began via boat.
  • Russian decision to just carpet bomb the entire city when they found they were struggling to break in.
  • The people of Slavutych town marching into tear gas - despite shots into the air - chanting for the Russians to leave, until they did.
  • The role Chernihiv's obstinacy played in helping to save Kyiv.
  • The maps showing Russians movement all over the roads but almost every large town remaining unbroken.
  • Russia telling their troops that the husks of their equipment was Ukrainian, and not theirs.
  • The insane discrepancy between Russian losses v Ukrainian, putting paid to any claim the original northern attack was a feint.
  • The offensive coordinated by Lapin (same guy who sank ~1000 vehicles in the Sivertsky Donets river trying to cross it.

 

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It's made me compare this to the siege of Leningrad (St Petersburg) - there are extremely depressing docos out there which I've watched - one of the most insane sieges of all time & the Leningrad population should never have to experience that again regardless what's happening now. However the enemy weren't continually trying to take the city, they were just trying to starve it into submission. In Chernihiv, there were continued attempts to move into the city, that was the goal. And they held on until the Kyiv offensives broke down, leading ultimately to the noose around Chernihiv evaporating as well.
 
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Another glorious day for mother Russia, intercepting drones with fuel tanks!
 
Ukraine struck a Russian warehouse storing ammunition and reconnaissance drones using a domestically-made Neptune missile overnight on Jan. 10, a source in the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) told the Kyiv Independent.

According to the source, the attack near the village of Chaltyr in Russia's Rostov Oblast was carried out by the SBU and Ukraine's Navy.
 
So Tigran Keosyan, the husband of that RT news Russian troll Margarita Simonyan is in a coma in hospital clinically dead. He himself was a propaganda piece of sh!t too who said that Russia should nuke Ukraine. Seems the karma bus hit him first!
 

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