Opinion Sack Hinkley 5 - Lower The Blinds

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This is why the argument 'Who else are they going to get to coach?' is a BS retort. ...
It's a complete bovine faeces retort because if the club had stuck to that Primus would still be our coach and Hinkley would never have been appointed. Hinkley was an untried assistant when given the head coach job at Ports.

As you say, there are plenty of assistant coaches out there who just need to be given the opportunity. The same as Hinkley was.
 

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Imagine watching this game with an American who's never seen the sport before and explaining that the only American guy in the whole competition is the guy wearing sunglasses.
There's a very good reason he's wearing glasses and it has nothing to do with his place of birth.


"The 31-year-old has undergone six bouts of surgery – three on his left eye, two on the right, and cataract surgery – since he was accidentally poked in the eye by Gold Coast Suns ruckman Peter Wright three years ago, causing a torn retina."
 
How about you tell me where I’m wrong.. you reckon we have an elite midfield do you? Maybe you should stop looking at stats and what how we use it and where our biggest deficiency is
I tend to agree with you, it's not that Wines isn't good he's just not silky smooth, the same can be said for Boak as much as I like Travis, Drew is a similar type.
We definitely need a pacey mid with good ball skills. Imo the Bont is a good mid and does a fair bit around the ground, not comparing him to Wines or Drew because they are different types of player, our issue is we have to many of the same type, just like we have to many HB flankers.
You can't question Wines, Boak or Drew as far as work rate goes but they are not highly skilled players, Boak would be the hardest off season trainer in the AFL but he doesn't have those smooth skills.
 
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We have the players to win a flag, its pretty obvious to anyone that isn't trying to excuse Hinkley's failures. Our midfield is fine personnel wise with one major exception. Ruck. Hinkley (as confirmed by Montgomery today) does not rate hitouts as an important stat. Wines, Boak, Rozee, Butters and Drew roving to Max Gawn would be unstoppable.

The fact our players are mentally weak is the fault of our head coach and his loser language. You're trying to back Hinkley with his player blaming strategy. Its basic and Im sick of seeing you pedal it.
I’m certainly not sticking up for hinkley.. he’s ****ed up this club good and proper, I’d be happy to drive the prick to gws if required. but our midfield isn’t good enough (yes ruck included) and he’s been shown up in the biggest games. It’s why we can’t regularly beat top 8 sides. Our mids let’s us down 1st quarter of the prelim.
 
I tend to agree with you, it's not that Wines isn't good he's just not silky smooth, the same can be said for Boak as much as I like Travis, Drew is a similar type.
We definitely need a pacey mid with good ball skills. Imo the Bont is a good mid and does a fair bit around the ground, not comparing him to Wines or Drew because they are different types of player, our issue is we have to man of the same type, just like we have to many HB flankers.
You can't question Wines, Boak or Drew as far as work rate goes but they are not highly skilled players, Boak would be the hardest off season trainer in the AFL but he doesn't have those smooth skills.
Spot on and add that our rucks are poor as well. We are one superstar midfielder short (JHF maybe?) and one quality ruckman short (make a play for grundy?) until we get that we won’t win a flag.

As hard working and honest as drew is, he wouldn’t get a look in, in the top sides.
 
I don’t buy that our midfield wasn’t good enough, either.

West Coast won a flag with Shuey, Sheed, Yeo and Redden as their frontline quartet, sans Naitanui who had done his ACL.

Pick any four guys you like playing at or near their best together over the journey and we could trump that: Ryder, Lycett, Boak, Gray, Wines, Wingard, Ebert, Rockliff, Polec, Hartlett, Kornes, Butters, Houston, Amon… the list goes on.

Good kicks, bad kicks, offensive-minded, defensive-minded, fast, slow, tall, short, left-sided, right-sided, tough, soft, creative, dour, sloppy, clinical, whatever the case may be,

It doesn’t matter a jot when your brainstrust is strategically and tactically inept.
 

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Two things, the comment on ruthlessness being gone I agree with, our club doesn’t make the tough calls like it did in yesteryear.

Example at our focus group a few years back after the Richmond prelim loss. The club managers in attendance accepted Travis Boak flaws and said he’s never going to change. Rather than moving him on we accept it and leave him as is, knowing that his execution under key moments isn’t good enough. This could be the difference between winning and losing, which it was.
 
I don’t buy that our midfield wasn’t good enough, either.

West Coast won a flag with Shuey, Sheed, Yeo and Redden as their frontline quartet, sans Naitanui who had done his ACL.

Pick any four guys you like playing at or near their best together over the journey and we could trump that: Ryder, Lycett, Boak, Gray, Wines, Wingard, Ebert, Rockliff, Polec, Hartlett, Kornes, Butters, Houston, Amon… the list goes on.

Good kicks, bad kicks, offensive-minded, defensive-minded, fast, slow, tall, short, left-sided, right-sided, tough, soft, creative, dour, sloppy, clinical, whatever the case may be,

It doesn’t matter a jot when your brainstrust is strategically and tactically inept.
FTFY
 
I’m fully expecting someone to come forth with this foolproof argument (the Hardwick, part 2):

Before leading Richmond to a dinasty, Hardwick failed in Finals, then had a bad season; thus, we should give Hinkley a chance.”
 
It's the players
It's the recruiting team
It's the fitness team
It's the supporters
It's anyone except Hinkley

You’ve forgotten the assistants.
 
Heard Montgomery suggestion Teakle might get a game ‘but basically he insinuated it’s a work in progress’ kinda thing.

They are already making excuses.

What is it with this loser mentality.

Why is this “loser mentality”?

The worst of this would be its effect on Hayes, but mostly because it came along with a statement that Finlayson/Dixon is a better setup. By itself, I don’t see an issue.

What am I missing?
 
Why is this “loser mentality”?

The worst of this would be its effect on Hayes, but mostly because it came along with a statement that Finlayson/Dixon is a better setup. By itself, I don’t see an issue.

What am I missing?
We have been a work in progress for a decade. Its a soft way of kicking the can down the road to avoid expectations.
 
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