FishingRick04
Brownlow Medallist
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Yeah Carlton and Melbourne haven’t played enough top 8 sidesWell that tells a story.
That hasn't aged well for us....Ken's appointment was pretty unusual- overlooked for many other coaching jobs but Port persisted with him for some unknown reason.
Seems the fear of failing again made him reluctant to apply for the Port job until it was guaranteed he'd win the job.
Even weirder is KT seeing Hinkley as some unobtainable coaching lure, if it were Clarkson you'd understand, but it reads like a club that didn't believe in itself from both parties.
"In 2009, Hinkley put up his hand even higher. He applied for the Richmond senior coaching vacancy and finished second to Damien Hardwick. In 2010, it was Geelong – and no cigar, so the bruised Hinkley moved to the Gold Coast. In 2011, it was St Kilda and Adelaide with more second placings. In 2012, the options were Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide but Hinkley had had enough of putting up his hand.
Power chief executive Keith Thomas was persistent.
“I was at work, took the call outside, and said to Keith: ‘Thanks, but no thanks’,” recalls Hinkley.
“Family came first. My son Jordy was really happy, the girls had settled into jobs. Donna really loved it. I loved it. It was a really comfortable environment for us. And there was a bigger picture to achieve at the Gold Coast (Football Club).
“Keith kept ringing up and wanting to see me. (Power assistant coach and former Geelong team-mate) Garry Hocking rang me as well and said, ‘You’ve got to let them come up and talk to you’.
“I said, ‘they are wasting their time. And I don’t want to waste people’s time. I am not that sort of person. We don’t want to make the move’. It kept going on for a couple of weeks because they were not able to get what they were looking for. So I was still alive.”
After a month of rejecting the Power’s advances, Hinkley told Hocking his hand was ready to come up again. But there was the family to consider."
Really???Ken's appointment was pretty unusual- overlooked for many other coaching jobs but Port persisted with him for some unknown reason.
Seems the fear of failing again made him reluctant to apply for the Port job until it was guaranteed he'd win the job.
Even weirder is KT seeing Hinkley as some unobtainable coaching lure, if it were Clarkson you'd understand, but it reads like a club that didn't believe in itself from both parties.
"In 2009, Hinkley put up his hand even higher. He applied for the Richmond senior coaching vacancy and finished second to Damien Hardwick. In 2010, it was Geelong – and no cigar, so the bruised Hinkley moved to the Gold Coast. In 2011, it was St Kilda and Adelaide with more second placings. In 2012, the options were Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide but Hinkley had had enough of putting up his hand.
Power chief executive Keith Thomas was persistent.
“I was at work, took the call outside, and said to Keith: ‘Thanks, but no thanks’,” recalls Hinkley.
“Family came first. My son Jordy was really happy, the girls had settled into jobs. Donna really loved it. I loved it. It was a really comfortable environment for us. And there was a bigger picture to achieve at the Gold Coast (Football Club).
“Keith kept ringing up and wanting to see me. (Power assistant coach and former Geelong team-mate) Garry Hocking rang me as well and said, ‘You’ve got to let them come up and talk to you’.
“I said, ‘they are wasting their time. And I don’t want to waste people’s time. I am not that sort of person. We don’t want to make the move’. It kept going on for a couple of weeks because they were not able to get what they were looking for. So I was still alive.”
After a month of rejecting the Power’s advances, Hinkley told Hocking his hand was ready to come up again. But there was the family to consider."
It actually gets horror movie bad when such details are brought back up. I never realised how many times he'd been close, but no cigar.That hasn't aged well for us....
Hinkley probably did as well as could have been hoped for from a new coach in 2013 - 2014. The problem is that he should have been moved on after the following failed seasons.That hasn't aged well for us....
Ken's appointment was pretty unusual- overlooked for many other coaching jobs but Port persisted with him for some unknown reason.
Seems the fear of failing again made him reluctant to apply for the Port job until it was guaranteed he'd win the job.
Even weirder is KT seeing Hinkley as some unobtainable coaching lure, if it were Clarkson you'd understand, but it reads like a club that didn't believe in itself from both parties.
"In 2009, Hinkley put up his hand even higher. He applied for the Richmond senior coaching vacancy and finished second to Damien Hardwick. In 2010, it was Geelong – and no cigar, so the bruised Hinkley moved to the Gold Coast. In 2011, it was St Kilda and Adelaide with more second placings. In 2012, the options were Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide but Hinkley had had enough of putting up his hand.
Power chief executive Keith Thomas was persistent.
“I was at work, took the call outside, and said to Keith: ‘Thanks, but no thanks’,” recalls Hinkley.
“Family came first. My son Jordy was really happy, the girls had settled into jobs. Donna really loved it. I loved it. It was a really comfortable environment for us. And there was a bigger picture to achieve at the Gold Coast (Football Club).
“Keith kept ringing up and wanting to see me. (Power assistant coach and former Geelong team-mate) Garry Hocking rang me as well and said, ‘You’ve got to let them come up and talk to you’.
“I said, ‘they are wasting their time. And I don’t want to waste people’s time. I am not that sort of person. We don’t want to make the move’. It kept going on for a couple of weeks because they were not able to get what they were looking for. So I was still alive.”
After a month of rejecting the Power’s advances, Hinkley told Hocking his hand was ready to come up again. But there was the family to consider."
TYPICAL
Thank you for posting this, with the link to Rucci’s original detailed pen picture of Kenny from Camperdown ten months into his ten-year ordeal at Alberton.Ken's appointment was pretty unusual- overlooked for many other coaching jobs but Port persisted with him for some unknown reason.
Seems the fear of failing again made him reluctant to apply for the Port job until it was guaranteed he'd win the job.
Even weirder is KT seeing Hinkley as some unobtainable coaching lure, if it were Clarkson you'd understand, but it reads like a club that didn't believe in itself from both parties.
"In 2009, Hinkley put up his hand even higher. He applied for the Richmond senior coaching vacancy and finished second to Damien Hardwick. In 2010, it was Geelong – and no cigar, so the bruised Hinkley moved to the Gold Coast. In 2011, it was St Kilda and Adelaide with more second placings. In 2012, the options were Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide but Hinkley had had enough of putting up his hand.
Power chief executive Keith Thomas was persistent.
“I was at work, took the call outside, and said to Keith: ‘Thanks, but no thanks’,” recalls Hinkley.
“Family came first. My son Jordy was really happy, the girls had settled into jobs. Donna really loved it. I loved it. It was a really comfortable environment for us. And there was a bigger picture to achieve at the Gold Coast (Football Club).
“Keith kept ringing up and wanting to see me. (Power assistant coach and former Geelong team-mate) Garry Hocking rang me as well and said, ‘You’ve got to let them come up and talk to you’.
“I said, ‘they are wasting their time. And I don’t want to waste people’s time. I am not that sort of person. We don’t want to make the move’. It kept going on for a couple of weeks because they were not able to get what they were looking for. So I was still alive.”
After a month of rejecting the Power’s advances, Hinkley told Hocking his hand was ready to come up again. But there was the family to consider."
Possible farewell game, R19 v Geelong at AO?
10 ****ing years of my life."i dont like wasting peoples time" - Ken Hinkley
Well thanks for wasting the last 10 years of my ******* life you stubborn inconsiderate self righteous campaigner
Its fine in isolation.I understood that he is not ready right now (“work in progress”), but when he is, then he’ll play.
Possible farewell game, R19 v Geelong at AO?
2015 onwards re was struggling to clear the ball in midfield. He turned his form around when he went to the US & got fitter & quicker. He then started to impact in the midfield again.I thought he was tracking well as a game breaker in 13/14 even possibly 15 then someone decided he was a pressure forward.
He united the team & club after John McCarthy died. He also united the team during the emergence of covid in 2020. That is his strength but he just has too many weaknesses.Hinkley probably did as well as could have been hoped for from a new coach in 2013 - 2014. The problem is that he should have been moved on after the following failed seasons.
The whips are going to start cracking on this front very soon.
If we lose to Sydney this weekend (which most of us would assume is going to happen) then we fall to 5-8.
A home game follows against the SUNS. If we lose that then we fall to 5-9 and even the 'mathematically possible' talk will fall away and suddenly the post mortem will begin and the questions will begin to be asked internally and externally.
But even if we win that and go 6-8, we have mission impossible against Freo the week after where we would fall to 6-9 and all the same questions will be asked.
I think it's basically impossible for him to survive the season. Once we get loss #9 under our belts, which will be soon, the pressure will go through the roof and we're only one bad performance (ie a big loss against a good team or a shock loss against a bad team) away from a sacking at that point.
I would sort of like it to be against the suns, for old times sake if nothing else.The whips are going to start cracking on this front very soon.
If we lose to Sydney this weekend (which most of us would assume is going to happen) then we fall to 5-8.
A home game follows against the SUNS. If we lose that then we fall to 5-9 and even the 'mathematically possible' talk will fall away and suddenly the post mortem will begin and the questions will begin to be asked internally and externally.
But even if we win that and go 6-8, we have mission impossible against Freo the week after where we would fall to 6-9 and all the same questions will be asked.
I think it's basically impossible for him to survive the season. Once we get loss #9 under our belts, which will be soon, the pressure will go through the roof and we're only one bad performance (ie a big loss against a good team or a shock loss against a bad team) away from a sacking at that point.
We officially hand him back to Geelong and he can catch the plane home with them.Possible farewell game, R19 v Geelong at AO?
I also give KT a lot of credit for the way he led the club after the John McCarthy tragedy. He handled all the media and made sure the players and staff were given privacy and kept well away from the press. Very professional and compassionate.He united the team & club after John McCarthy died. He also united the team during the emergence of covid in 2020. That is his strength but he just has too many weaknesses.
Geelong immediately make him head water boy & confirm our suspicions all along.We officially hand him back to Geelong and he can catch the plane home with them.
I concur, for norwood scum KT seemed to embrace the privilege of being involved with PAFC. And he did always present and speak professionally.I also give KT a lot of credit for the way he led the club after the John McCarthy tragedy. He handled all the media and made sure the players and staff were given privacy and kept well away from the press. Very professional and compassionate.