List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

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Yeh and Hill (older though). Just thought it was a good discussion point to get the posters going 🙂.

One thing Clarko mentioned was to get these players to protect there youg players as they develop. Not sure M Crouch ticks that box.
 

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Don’t bite my head off, I’m just posting the question on here of whether we may be signing any players up, like Himmelberg, so that it allows us to contribute salary cap space if we were to on-trade them. I know it’s unlikely, but it’s food for thought.

Great article here describing the changing landscape of those with, and without, salary cap space. More teams with salary cap space are finding ways to spend the mandatory 95% of salary cap and essentially adding a draft value to excess cap space.

E.g. a club like Collingwood, with a tight salary cap, come to Crows and say ‘we want Frampton’ but we don’t have the cap space for him. Crows sign him to a contract for 2 years, but then on-trade him to Collingwood, and commit to cover his contract for 2 years. Effectively a reverse salary dump. Obviously we couldn’t do that without signing Frampton first.



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Don’t bite my head off, I’m just posting the question on here of whether we may be signing any players up, like Himmelberg, so that it allows us to contribute salary cap space if we were to on-trade them. I know it’s unlikely, but it’s food for thought.

Great article here describing the changing landscape of those with, and without, salary cap space. More teams with salary cap space are finding ways to spend the mandatory 95% of salary cap and essentially adding a draft value to excess cap space.

E.g. a club like Collingwood, with a tight salary cap, come to Crows and say ‘we want Frampton’ but we don’t have the cap space for him. Crows sign him to a contract for 2 years, but then on-trade him to Collingwood, and commit to cover his contract for 2 years. Effectively a reverse salary dump. Obviously we couldn’t do that without signing Frampton first.



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It's super interesting. It opens up the doors for clubs down the ladder to build draft picks using c grade players which I like. Hopefully it allows teams to climb the ladder quicker.
 
Split Pick 5, get 2 players out of Wanganeen-Milera, Dunkley or Cox

Rankine for our 2023 1st.

Next year trade for JHF with our 2024 1st (+players) who will be OOC

Trade Crouch for a late 2nd/early to Richmond and offer to pay his entire salary for next year

Trade Rowe to Bulldogs for late 3rd (pick we need to be able to trade our 1st round)

Trade Frampton and the late 2nd/early 3rd we got for Crouch to Collingwood for Caleb Poulter

Trade Lachie Sholl to Carlton for a 2nd/3rd and offer to pay some of his salary.

Use our 2nd round pick on Keeler, and we only need points for Michalanney


Net result this year.
Rankine, Wanganeen-Milera, Cox, Poulter, Keeler, Michalanney
 
He's already a rookie... he can't be downgraded from what he already is.


Vader Not sure if this is correct or not....

If we are looking to trade out our 1st round pick this year, we need a 3rd rounder (we don't currently have one). Is that correct? As per AFL rules?
 

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Vader Not sure if this is correct or not....

If we are looking to trade out our 1st round pick this year, we need a 3rd rounder (we don't currently have one). Is that correct? As per AFL rules?
I'm not sure...

I know you can't trade your future 1st, unless you have a full set of future 2nd/3rd/4th picks. But I'm not so sure that you can't trade them in the present.

What we do know is that the AFL will force Adelaide to adhere strictly to the rules, but clubs like Geelong are allowed to do whatever the **** they want.
 
Vader Not sure if this is correct or not....

If we are looking to trade out our 1st round pick this year, we need a 3rd rounder (we don't currently have one). Is that correct? As per AFL rules?
I don't believe there are any restrictions on trading picks in the current year, it's only for future years. We can trade out as many current year picks as we want to and just take a heap of picks at the end of the draft
 
Split Pick 5, get 2 players out of Wanganeen-Milera, Dunkley or Cox

Rankine for our 2023 1st.

Next year trade for JHF with our 2024 1st (+players) who will be OOC

Trade Crouch for a late 2nd/early to Richmond and offer to pay his entire salary for next year

Trade Rowe to Bulldogs for late 3rd (pick we need to be able to trade our 1st round)

Trade Frampton and the late 2nd/early 3rd we got for Crouch to Collingwood for Caleb Poulter

Trade Lachie Sholl to Carlton for a 2nd/3rd and offer to pay some of his salary.

Use our 2nd round pick on Keeler, and we only need points for Michalanney


Net result this year.
Rankine, Wanganeen-Milera, Cox, Poulter, Keeler, Michalanney
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I'm not sure...

I know you can't trade your future 1st, unless you have a full set of future 2nd/3rd/4th picks. But I'm not so sure that you can't trade them in the present.

What we do know is that the AFL will force Adelaide to adhere strictly to the rules, but clubs like Geelong are allowed to do whatever the **** they want.

I don't know why we even care. Isn't the penalty like a slap on the wrist with a wet lettuce leaf?
 
Don’t bite my head off, I’m just posting the question on here of whether we may be signing any players up, like Himmelberg, so that it allows us to contribute salary cap space if we were to on-trade them. I know it’s unlikely, but it’s food for thought.

Great article here describing the changing landscape of those with, and without, salary cap space. More teams with salary cap space are finding ways to spend the mandatory 95% of salary cap and essentially adding a draft value to excess cap space.

E.g. a club like Collingwood, with a tight salary cap, come to Crows and say ‘we want Frampton’ but we don’t have the cap space for him. Crows sign him to a contract for 2 years, but then on-trade him to Collingwood, and commit to cover his contract for 2 years. Effectively a reverse salary dump. Obviously we couldn’t do that without signing Frampton first.



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The obvious one is Crouch. We could offer to pay his salary to gain a decent pick, which we will need to bring the likes of Rankine in.
 
Split Pick 5, get 2 players out of Wanganeen-Milera, Dunkley or Cox

Rankine for our 2023 1st.

Didn't mind this in the way it addresses a few needs (If we are putting Rankine in the guts...pretty hard with our stacked midfield). In that one I'd probably leave Dunkley out with the choices
 
Olsen was asked at the presser today if there are any other players on the radar this year after Rankine, he kinda smirked.

Could be nothing, but it's that time of the year, everything gets read into.

So who is it?
With his success with the ladies lately, when they were asking about players, he assumed they were talking about him
 
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