List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part III

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Hayes4PM said:
Perhaps it’s time we use our CCP connections to leverage the AFL into some better compensation. Or they might find themselves on the wrong end of a reeducation camp…


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They are going down....down to China town... 😀
 
gringo2011 said:
They have so much stockpiled talent that they need cream not cake. I'd do that for the best kid in the country if I was them. This is a pretty average draft. Good chance that none of those players are better than anything they have already.
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If North Melbourne don't turn into a triple premiership winning powerhouse over the next decade they should be relocated to PNG.

The stockpiling they've been able to pull off with the 3x 1st rounders from the AFL is insane. That's after getting multiple picks last year as well.

Lord ****ing help the AFL if North are bottom 2 again in 2024 because the cry for assistance will come again... Eagles are already gearing up their own pitch for a few extra picks and they won the flag 5 years ago!!
 
L_W_P said:
If North Melbourne don't turn into a triple premiership winning powerhouse over the next decade they should be relocated to PNG.

The stockpiling they've been able to pull off with the 3x 1st rounders from the AFL is insane. That's after getting multiple picks last year as well.

Lord ******* help the AFL if North are bottom 2 again in 2024 because the cry for assistance will come again... Eagles are already gearing up their own pitch for a few extra picks and they won the flag 5 years ago!!
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North Melbourne in 2050 still asking for priority picks:
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L_W_P said:
If North Melbourne don't turn into a triple premiership winning powerhouse over the next decade they should be relocated to PNG.

The stockpiling they've been able to pull off with the 3x 1st rounders from the AFL is insane. That's after getting multiple picks last year as well.

Lord ******* help the AFL if North are bottom 2 again in 2024 because the cry for assistance will come again... Eagles are already gearing up their own pitch for a few extra picks and they won the flag 5 years ago!!
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Norf fans on their board treating Brady Rawlings as some kind of genius wheeler and dealer, when it's all just handouts.
 

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We have reached 'threaten Pre Season draft' stage of negotiations with Essendon.



Essendon could wait for pre-season draft to land Saint Gresham​


Essendon could attempt to snare St Kilda’s Jade Gresham in the pre-season draft in the event the Saints match a bid for the free agent goal kicker.
The Bombers could front-end Gresham’s contract to snare him in the draft in a similar manner to the way Carlton landed Jack Martin in 2019.

Importantly, Essendon has significant salary cap space to be able to put a price on Gresham’s head to help ward off rival clubs, such as Hawthorn and Fremantle, earlier in the draft order.

The Blues landed Martin for nothing with a heavily front-ended seven-figure first-year salary after Gold Coast baulked at a second-round pick trade offer from Carlton.

But the Bombers’ preference is to secure Gresham as a free agent as part of a move which could generate either an end-of-first-round or second-round compensation pick for the Saints.

St Kilda on Wednesday said the club would consider keeping Gresham at the club due to his strong relationship with Ross Lyon if the compensation pick was not end-of-first-round.

The Saints could also match a bid in an effort to strike a better trade deal – similar to GWS Giants with Geelong on Jeremy Cameron – but Essendon does not want to trade, raising the prospect of a pre-season draft bailout.

The Bombers may be only willing to pay Gresham $600,000 a year, which would likely result in a second-round compensation pick, instead of $700,000, which could trigger end-of-first-round compensation.

St Kilda lost gun onballer Luke Ball to the draft to Collingwood for nothing in 2009 after the Saints’ trade talks with Collingwood broke down. Martin followed in 2019 in a huge coup for the Blues where Stephen Silvagni (now at St Kilda) was list manager until December that year.

Essendon has about a $2.5 million war chest to spend on its four targets – Ben McKay, Todd Goldstein, Gresham and Xavier Duursma – although Duursma will have to be traded.

St Kilda has pick 13 in next month’s draft and have been in talks with clubs, including North Melbourne, about potentially swapping its pick either up or down the draft order.

Another top-25 pick could give the Saints some flexibility to target either pick eight from Geelong or Essendon’s pick nine to get into the top-10 where the best players are.

Recruiters are convinced there is a considerable talent drop-off after pick nine or 10, making picks in the teens a trickier prospect in this year’s talent pool.

Essendon list boss Adrian Dodoro said the Bombers, who have begun a successful trade period already snaring two key players, would lodge a bid for Gresham by Thursday afternoon.

“We are probably going to lodge documentation in the next 24 hours,” Dodoro said on AFL Trade Radio.

“We haven’t discussed anything with St Kilda (regards a trade) we are just talking to his management (Matt Bain from TLA) at the present time.”

The Bombers have picks nine and 30 and could hold on to them until draft night when the club could be open for talks about a pick swap.

Remarkably, key defender Daniel Curtin could slide to the bottom half of the top-10 as rivals zero in on some other exciting playmakers amid concerns Curtin may want to return home to Western Australia.

St Kilda head of football David Misson said the Saints may match an offer for Gresham to either keep him or force Essendon to stump up more in a trade.

The Saints are also looking to bring in Carlton onballer Paddy Dow and Fremantle playmaker Liam Henry.

But the Saints need a pick for Gresham.

“The ball is really in Essendon’s court to lodge an offer for Jade and his management is working with Essendon to get that going,” Misson said.

“Once that is done we need to decide whether we are going to match that offer or potentially facilitate a trade there.

“If we decided to match there would be a trade, but depending on the offer Essendon made that would obviously drive that compensation for us.

“We are hoping for as good a compensation pick as we can there but it is totally dependent on the offer that Essendon makes.

“Jade is a very high-level player, he kicked 20 goals for us this year and he has been a really established player at St Kilda and we are hoping to get an end-of-first-round pick is what we would be after there.”

 
BrutThough said:
We have reached 'threaten Pre Season draft' stage of negotiations with Essendon.



Essendon could wait for pre-season draft to land Saint Gresham​


Essendon could attempt to snare St Kilda’s Jade Gresham in the pre-season draft in the event the Saints match a bid for the free agent goal kicker.
The Bombers could front-end Gresham’s contract to snare him in the draft in a similar manner to the way Carlton landed Jack Martin in 2019.

Importantly, Essendon has significant salary cap space to be able to put a price on Gresham’s head to help ward off rival clubs, such as Hawthorn and Fremantle, earlier in the draft order.

The Blues landed Martin for nothing with a heavily front-ended seven-figure first-year salary after Gold Coast baulked at a second-round pick trade offer from Carlton.

But the Bombers’ preference is to secure Gresham as a free agent as part of a move which could generate either an end-of-first-round or second-round compensation pick for the Saints.

St Kilda on Wednesday said the club would consider keeping Gresham at the club due to his strong relationship with Ross Lyon if the compensation pick was not end-of-first-round.

The Saints could also match a bid in an effort to strike a better trade deal – similar to GWS Giants with Geelong on Jeremy Cameron – but Essendon does not want to trade, raising the prospect of a pre-season draft bailout.

The Bombers may be only willing to pay Gresham $600,000 a year, which would likely result in a second-round compensation pick, instead of $700,000, which could trigger end-of-first-round compensation.

St Kilda lost gun onballer Luke Ball to the draft to Collingwood for nothing in 2009 after the Saints’ trade talks with Collingwood broke down. Martin followed in 2019 in a huge coup for the Blues where Stephen Silvagni (now at St Kilda) was list manager until December that year.

Essendon has about a $2.5 million war chest to spend on its four targets – Ben McKay, Todd Goldstein, Gresham and Xavier Duursma – although Duursma will have to be traded.

St Kilda has pick 13 in next month’s draft and have been in talks with clubs, including North Melbourne, about potentially swapping its pick either up or down the draft order.

Another top-25 pick could give the Saints some flexibility to target either pick eight from Geelong or Essendon’s pick nine to get into the top-10 where the best players are.

Recruiters are convinced there is a considerable talent drop-off after pick nine or 10, making picks in the teens a trickier prospect in this year’s talent pool.

Essendon list boss Adrian Dodoro said the Bombers, who have begun a successful trade period already snaring two key players, would lodge a bid for Gresham by Thursday afternoon.

“We are probably going to lodge documentation in the next 24 hours,” Dodoro said on AFL Trade Radio.

“We haven’t discussed anything with St Kilda (regards a trade) we are just talking to his management (Matt Bain from TLA) at the present time.”

The Bombers have picks nine and 30 and could hold on to them until draft night when the club could be open for talks about a pick swap.

Remarkably, key defender Daniel Curtin could slide to the bottom half of the top-10 as rivals zero in on some other exciting playmakers amid concerns Curtin may want to return home to Western Australia.

St Kilda head of football David Misson said the Saints may match an offer for Gresham to either keep him or force Essendon to stump up more in a trade.

The Saints are also looking to bring in Carlton onballer Paddy Dow and Fremantle playmaker Liam Henry.

But the Saints need a pick for Gresham.

“The ball is really in Essendon’s court to lodge an offer for Jade and his management is working with Essendon to get that going,” Misson said.

“Once that is done we need to decide whether we are going to match that offer or potentially facilitate a trade there.

“If we decided to match there would be a trade, but depending on the offer Essendon made that would obviously drive that compensation for us.

“We are hoping for as good a compensation pick as we can there but it is totally dependent on the offer that Essendon makes.

“Jade is a very high-level player, he kicked 20 goals for us this year and he has been a really established player at St Kilda and we are hoping to get an end-of-first-round pick is what we would be after there.”

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Did Dodoro write this article Lol?

How can he go to the pre-season draft?!
He's a Restricted Free Agent. If we match and don't trade him he stays. Simple as that

How could he possibly end up in the pre season draft?
 
BrutThough said:
We have reached 'threaten Pre Season draft' stage of negotiations with Essendon.



Essendon could wait for pre-season draft to land Saint Gresham​


Essendon could attempt to snare St Kilda’s Jade Gresham in the pre-season draft in the event the Saints match a bid for the free agent goal kicker.
The Bombers could front-end Gresham’s contract to snare him in the draft in a similar manner to the way Carlton landed Jack Martin in 2019.

Importantly, Essendon has significant salary cap space to be able to put a price on Gresham’s head to help ward off rival clubs, such as Hawthorn and Fremantle, earlier in the draft order.

The Blues landed Martin for nothing with a heavily front-ended seven-figure first-year salary after Gold Coast baulked at a second-round pick trade offer from Carlton.

But the Bombers’ preference is to secure Gresham as a free agent as part of a move which could generate either an end-of-first-round or second-round compensation pick for the Saints.

St Kilda on Wednesday said the club would consider keeping Gresham at the club due to his strong relationship with Ross Lyon if the compensation pick was not end-of-first-round.

The Saints could also match a bid in an effort to strike a better trade deal – similar to GWS Giants with Geelong on Jeremy Cameron – but Essendon does not want to trade, raising the prospect of a pre-season draft bailout.

The Bombers may be only willing to pay Gresham $600,000 a year, which would likely result in a second-round compensation pick, instead of $700,000, which could trigger end-of-first-round compensation.

St Kilda lost gun onballer Luke Ball to the draft to Collingwood for nothing in 2009 after the Saints’ trade talks with Collingwood broke down. Martin followed in 2019 in a huge coup for the Blues where Stephen Silvagni (now at St Kilda) was list manager until December that year.

Essendon has about a $2.5 million war chest to spend on its four targets – Ben McKay, Todd Goldstein, Gresham and Xavier Duursma – although Duursma will have to be traded.

St Kilda has pick 13 in next month’s draft and have been in talks with clubs, including North Melbourne, about potentially swapping its pick either up or down the draft order.

Another top-25 pick could give the Saints some flexibility to target either pick eight from Geelong or Essendon’s pick nine to get into the top-10 where the best players are.

Recruiters are convinced there is a considerable talent drop-off after pick nine or 10, making picks in the teens a trickier prospect in this year’s talent pool.

Essendon list boss Adrian Dodoro said the Bombers, who have begun a successful trade period already snaring two key players, would lodge a bid for Gresham by Thursday afternoon.

“We are probably going to lodge documentation in the next 24 hours,” Dodoro said on AFL Trade Radio.

“We haven’t discussed anything with St Kilda (regards a trade) we are just talking to his management (Matt Bain from TLA) at the present time.”

The Bombers have picks nine and 30 and could hold on to them until draft night when the club could be open for talks about a pick swap.

Remarkably, key defender Daniel Curtin could slide to the bottom half of the top-10 as rivals zero in on some other exciting playmakers amid concerns Curtin may want to return home to Western Australia.

St Kilda head of football David Misson said the Saints may match an offer for Gresham to either keep him or force Essendon to stump up more in a trade.

The Saints are also looking to bring in Carlton onballer Paddy Dow and Fremantle playmaker Liam Henry.

But the Saints need a pick for Gresham.

“The ball is really in Essendon’s court to lodge an offer for Jade and his management is working with Essendon to get that going,” Misson said.

“Once that is done we need to decide whether we are going to match that offer or potentially facilitate a trade there.

“If we decided to match there would be a trade, but depending on the offer Essendon made that would obviously drive that compensation for us.

“We are hoping for as good a compensation pick as we can there but it is totally dependent on the offer that Essendon makes.

“Jade is a very high-level player, he kicked 20 goals for us this year and he has been a really established player at St Kilda and we are hoping to get an end-of-first-round pick is what we would be after there.”

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If Essendon have the cap space to ward off North and Haethorn, what exactly is the hold up here?
 
puppy_dog7 said:
Did Dodoro write this article Lol?

How can he go to the pre-season draft?!
He's a Restricted Free Agent. If we match and don't trade him he stays. Simple as that

How could he possibly end up in the pre season draft?
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If he doesn't accept a contract from us after we match, he could end up in the pre season draft. But then he'd be off to North or Hawthorn so not the best scenario for Essendon either.
 
Wait do Melbourne have 6, 11 and 14 now? If I read that right then FFS.

We’ve got what, 12?

I need to check out until the draft is over.

Edit: they traded 14, but still, they have 2 first rounders before us despite a premiership and 2 top 4 finishes in the last 3 years. Hope we do something soon trade wise cause I’m getting impatient.
 
puppy_dog7 said:
Did Dodoro write this article Lol?

How can he go to the pre-season draft?!
He's a Restricted Free Agent. If we match and don't trade him he stays. Simple as that

How could he possibly end up in the pre season draft?
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I've never heard of this. If we match, does Gresh have the freedom to not sign a contract with us? Maybe he does! But, of course, the article doesn't make that clear.
 
puppy_dog7 said:
Did Dodoro write this article Lol?

How can he go to the pre-season draft?!
He's a Restricted Free Agent. If we match and don't trade him he stays. Simple as that

How could he possibly end up in the pre season draft?
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I believe that a player who is un-contracted can nominate for the Pre-season draft even with a contract offer on the table.

But I dont believe they are eligable once a free agency application has been submitted. So I think this is just madeup crap.
 
Minga said:
Wait do Melbourne have 6, 11 and 14 now? If I read that right then FFS.

We’ve got what, 12?

I need to check out until the draft is over.

Edit: they traded 14, but still, they have 2 first rounders before us despite a premiership and 2 top 4 finishes in the last 3 years. Hope we do something soon trade wise cause I’m getting impatient.
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No they gave up pick 14 to move up the draft order.
 
Essendon just dropped like 800k a year on a key defender, just signed Goldstein, are supposedly chasing Duursma, have Shiel who they want to get off their books supposedly because of a heavily back ended contract, but they’re gonna threaten to send Gresham to the PSD with a heavily front ended contract?

I’m not sure they’ve got much of that war chest left after going hammer and tongs for a bunch of B graders and elderly folk.
 
BrutThough said:
We have reached 'threaten Pre Season draft' stage of negotiations with Essendon.



Essendon could wait for pre-season draft to land Saint Gresham​


Essendon could attempt to snare St Kilda’s Jade Gresham in the pre-season draft in the event the Saints match a bid for the free agent goal kicker.
The Bombers could front-end Gresham’s contract to snare him in the draft in a similar manner to the way Carlton landed Jack Martin in 2019.

Importantly, Essendon has significant salary cap space to be able to put a price on Gresham’s head to help ward off rival clubs, such as Hawthorn and Fremantle, earlier in the draft order.

The Blues landed Martin for nothing with a heavily front-ended seven-figure first-year salary after Gold Coast baulked at a second-round pick trade offer from Carlton.

But the Bombers’ preference is to secure Gresham as a free agent as part of a move which could generate either an end-of-first-round or second-round compensation pick for the Saints.

St Kilda on Wednesday said the club would consider keeping Gresham at the club due to his strong relationship with Ross Lyon if the compensation pick was not end-of-first-round.

The Saints could also match a bid in an effort to strike a better trade deal – similar to GWS Giants with Geelong on Jeremy Cameron – but Essendon does not want to trade, raising the prospect of a pre-season draft bailout.

The Bombers may be only willing to pay Gresham $600,000 a year, which would likely result in a second-round compensation pick, instead of $700,000, which could trigger end-of-first-round compensation.

St Kilda lost gun onballer Luke Ball to the draft to Collingwood for nothing in 2009 after the Saints’ trade talks with Collingwood broke down. Martin followed in 2019 in a huge coup for the Blues where Stephen Silvagni (now at St Kilda) was list manager until December that year.

Essendon has about a $2.5 million war chest to spend on its four targets – Ben McKay, Todd Goldstein, Gresham and Xavier Duursma – although Duursma will have to be traded.

St Kilda has pick 13 in next month’s draft and have been in talks with clubs, including North Melbourne, about potentially swapping its pick either up or down the draft order.

Another top-25 pick could give the Saints some flexibility to target either pick eight from Geelong or Essendon’s pick nine to get into the top-10 where the best players are.

Recruiters are convinced there is a considerable talent drop-off after pick nine or 10, making picks in the teens a trickier prospect in this year’s talent pool.

Essendon list boss Adrian Dodoro said the Bombers, who have begun a successful trade period already snaring two key players, would lodge a bid for Gresham by Thursday afternoon.

“We are probably going to lodge documentation in the next 24 hours,” Dodoro said on AFL Trade Radio.

“We haven’t discussed anything with St Kilda (regards a trade) we are just talking to his management (Matt Bain from TLA) at the present time.”

The Bombers have picks nine and 30 and could hold on to them until draft night when the club could be open for talks about a pick swap.

Remarkably, key defender Daniel Curtin could slide to the bottom half of the top-10 as rivals zero in on some other exciting playmakers amid concerns Curtin may want to return home to Western Australia.

St Kilda head of football David Misson said the Saints may match an offer for Gresham to either keep him or force Essendon to stump up more in a trade.

The Saints are also looking to bring in Carlton onballer Paddy Dow and Fremantle playmaker Liam Henry.

But the Saints need a pick for Gresham.

“The ball is really in Essendon’s court to lodge an offer for Jade and his management is working with Essendon to get that going,” Misson said.

“Once that is done we need to decide whether we are going to match that offer or potentially facilitate a trade there.

“If we decided to match there would be a trade, but depending on the offer Essendon made that would obviously drive that compensation for us.

“We are hoping for as good a compensation pick as we can there but it is totally dependent on the offer that Essendon makes.

“Jade is a very high-level player, he kicked 20 goals for us this year and he has been a really established player at St Kilda and we are hoping to get an end-of-first-round pick is what we would be after there.”

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What a load of contradictory crap.
 
Hayes4PM said:
Essendon just dropped like 800k a year on a key defender, just signed Goldstein, are supposedly chasing Duursma, have Shiel who they want to get off their books supposedly because of a heavily back ended contract, but they’re gonna threaten to send Gresham to the PSD with a heavily front ended contract?

I’m not sure they’ve got much of that war chest left after going hammer and tongs for a bunch of B graders and elderly folk.
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If they have the money to front end Gresh's contract so North/Hawks dont take him for free, they have enough to give him a contract that gets us end of first round compo.
 
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