News Media Thread, 2024: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

[RookiePick]

"ABC expert"

GTFO Burke

He's exceptional with ABC but gets a bit shaky on DEF

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

 

[Notmuchofanexpert]

I hate how they can list the evidence based benefits of not travelling on your body, but then still end the article on “perceived advantage” for neutrality sake.

 

[Woutizmoo]

I hate how they can list the evidence based benefits of not travelling on your body, but then still end the article on “perceived advantage” for neutrality sake.

the abc frustrates me for this so hard. they show video footage of a guy king hitting someone then say 'it appears as though the man has been king hit'. call a spade a spade ffs

 

[bzparkes]

the abc frustrates me for this so hard. they show video footage of a guy king hitting someone then say 'it appears as though the man has been king hit'. call a spade a spade ffs

They can't due to legal issues.

 

[amazingjoshy]

But reknowned scientist Nathan Burke reckons...

"So what you lose by travelling over here (Melbourne), you actually gain a bit back by playing a travelling team every single week.

"No one ever mentions that."

No one ever mentions it except every 2nd post on Vic bias thread on the main board (and every Victorian ever)

Of course forgetting that the WA teams have to travel back from the east so are essentially doing the same trip as the teams coming over.

 

[Grahame]

"So what you lose by travelling over here (Melbourne), you actually gain a bit back by playing a travelling team every single week.

"No one ever mentions that."

No one ever mentions it except every 2nd post on Vic bias thread on the main board (and every Victorian ever)

Of course forgetting that the WA teams have to travel back from the east so are essentially doing the same trip as the teams coming over.

By raising it he is implicitly recognising travel is bad. But his (twisted) point is because we travel more it affects us less.

So by his logic, suffering more of something bad gives you experience to cope better - compared with someone suffering less.

I think all but a masochist would take the less suffering option every time.

Pity I'd respected him (and Clint Wheeldon). Oh well two more for the vAFL tossers basket.

 

[amazingjoshy]

By raising it he is implicitly recognising travel is bad. But his (twisted) point is because we travel more it affects us less.

So by his logic, suffering more of something bad gives you experience to cope better - compared with someone suffering less.

I think all but a masochist would take the less suffering option every time.

Pity I'd respected him (and Clint Wheeldon). Oh well two more for the vAFL tossers basket.

I'm pretty sure Wheeldon is on the WA teams side (and is a West Aussie)

 

[Grahame]

I'm pretty sure Wheeldon is on the WA teams side (and is a West Aussie)

Well aware Wheeldon is from WA. So what’s this rubbish?

“Never forget though, the WA teams should be thankful for their travel experience and business class seats - oh, and if they don’t like it, they should just play in a state based comp.”

Now he could claim it’s in jest. I’d say it’d be far more helpful to use his profile to actually outline the issues rather than make a ’joke’ that sounds exactly like something we hear all too often from the vAFL mob.

 

[bzparkes]

Well aware Wheeldon is from WA. So what’s this rubbish?

“Never forget though, the WA teams should be thankful for their travel experience and business class seats - oh, and if they don’t like it, they should just play in a state based comp.”

Now he could claim it’s in jest. I’d say it’d be far more helpful to use his profile to actually outline the issues rather than make a ’joke’ that sounds exactly like something we hear all too often from the vAFL mob.

That seems like a clear, sarcastic joke to me, where he's parroting the usual BS the Vics say.

 

[InTheWings]

"So what you lose by travelling over here (Melbourne), you actually gain a bit back by playing a travelling team every single week.

"No one ever mentions that."

No one ever mentions it except every 2nd post on Vic bias thread on the main board (and every Victorian ever)

Of course forgetting that the WA teams have to travel back from the east so are essentially doing the same trip as the teams coming over.

Also he doesn't get that it is not about home ground advantage on a particular week, but about the long (and short) term affect on the body and performance as a result constant trans-Australia travel.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Well aware Wheeldon is from WA. So what’s this rubbish?

“Never forget though, the WA teams should be thankful for their travel experience and business class seats - oh, and if they don’t like it, they should just play in a state based comp.”

Now he could claim it’s in jest. I’d say it’d be far more helpful to use his profile to actually outline the issues rather than make a ’joke’ that sounds exactly like something we hear all too often from the vAFL mob.

He's very clearly being sarcastic. The point is its exactly what we hear from the east and how ridiculous it sounds

 

[Keys]

Oh dear




Clint Wheeldon is one of the good guys. Very much on the WA side of the travelling viewpoint

 

[Flarn Rarn]

You'll often hear people talk about teams being off coming back from the trip West. If the effects of travel are still felt a week after then we're playing at a home ground disadvantage when we travel and then nearly all of our home games are off a trip too.

It's another way of highlighting that we rack up a lot more kilometers than most other clubs, but more starkly shows that it isn't even a zero-sum for the teams that have to do it every fortnight.

 

[Grahame]

That seems like a clear, sarcastic joke to me, where he's parroting the usual BS the Vics say.

And to Victorians it will sound like a West Aussie confirming their views.

 

[Keys]

St Kilda in 2024

R4 - Richmond in Adelaide
R5 - GWS in Canberra
R7 - Port in Adelaide
R9 - Hawthorn in Launceston
R12 - West Coast in Perth
R14 - Brisbane in Brisbane

Six trips interstate in 14 rounds is a fairly heavy travel load. Well for a Victorian team at least as its standard for a non-Victorian team

What’s the upside of that draw?

Well they travel to Adelaide in R18 to play the crows but aside from that, not only do they not leave Victoria, they don’t leave Marvel

Eight of their last nine games are at Marvel

I wonder if Nathan Burke would choose that or travelling every second week

 

[Quinz]

"So what you lose by travelling over here (Melbourne), you actually gain a bit back by playing a travelling team every single week.

"No one ever mentions that."

I think that is literally the only point ever mentioned by Victorians about travelling. Although he did fail to bring up the umpires which I thought was a bit off brand.

 

[the harry]

St Kilda in 2024

R4 - Richmond in Adelaide
R5 - GWS in Canberra
R7 - Port in Adelaide
R9 - Hawthorn in Launceston
R12 - West Coast in Perth
R14 - Brisbane in Brisbane

Six trips interstate in 14 rounds is a fairly heavy travel load. Well for a Victorian team at least as its standard for a non-Victorian team

What’s the upside of that draw?

Well they travel to Adelaide in R18 to play the crows but aside from that, not only do they not leave Victoria, they don’t leave Marvel

Eight of their last nine games are at Marvel

I wonder if Nathan Burke would choose that or travelling every second week

8 of 9 at the one ground is crazy.

The routine players would get into would be great for them. Can't imagine them having many Friday nights either so the breaks would all be pretty fine too.

 

[Keys]

8 of 9 at the one ground is crazy.

The routine players would get into would be great for them. Can't imagine them having many Friday nights either so the breaks would all be pretty fine too.

All of them are either Saturday or Sunday games

Two 6 day breaks when going from a Sunday game to a Saturday game the next week

Four of the eight games are against a non-vic side so they get a proper home ground advantage

 

[the harry]

All of them are either Saturday or Sunday games

Two 6 day breaks when going from a Sunday game to a Saturday game the next week

Four of the eight games are against a non-vic side so they get a proper home ground advantage

That's mental.

Even against Vic sides there has to be an advantage when for essentially 2 months you're on the same ground.

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

Mick underlines it from the 24 minute mark.

 

[flyinghi64]

Essendon, rounds 13 to 23 don't leave Melbourne and even play Geelongs home game at MCG.
Armchair ride or what.

 

[Cuzz09]

Mick underlines it from the 24 minute mark.

That is brilliant

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[Alesana]

St Kilda in 2024

R4 - Richmond in Adelaide
R5 - GWS in Canberra
R7 - Port in Adelaide
R9 - Hawthorn in Launceston
R12 - West Coast in Perth
R14 - Brisbane in Brisbane

Six trips interstate in 14 rounds is a fairly heavy travel load. Well for a Victorian team at least as its standard for a non-Victorian team

What’s the upside of that draw?

Well they travel to Adelaide in R18 to play the crows but aside from that, not only do they not leave Victoria, they don’t leave Marvel

Eight of their last nine games are at Marvel

I wonder if Nathan Burke would choose that or travelling every second week

Add to that, four of those six trips are only a 90 minute flight or less. And only the Perth trip has a noticeable timezone difference.

 

[Grahame]

Oh dear

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Clint Wheeldon is one of the good guys. Very much on the WA side of the travelling viewpoint

Okay. Apologies to Clint.

After spending many many years back in Victoria I just have little patience for the vAFL attitude here or elsewhere. Too many arguments with small-minded people who know or care little about the ‘national’ game. (And how seven of the VFL clubs were only saved from bankruptcy by WCE and Bears.) It gets a bit tiring.

Sorry Clint. (But please use your profile to dispel the constant vAFL BS.)