Autopsy Lions prevail by 10

[And_ROOS]

And I thought Mullin's best two career games were the two finals.

Maybe a pass on JHF who was still one of Port's best, but people keep saying he was on Neale last night and if that's the case Neale was one of the reasons Brisbane won and he was in the best 4 or 5 players on the field.
Bar is low because Mullin lacks footy sense and is there on an athletic level to tag, but Neale influence was massive and if it was Atkins who put up that performance on Neale everyone would want him delisted.

 

[rocker_oz33]

I mean weeks ago we were lauding Neale's mobility as it was helping Cameron to score goals. It's amazing how many people are giving guys a pass from inexperience like Mullins but are shredding Neale and Dempsey who were in their first PF. Should they have done better? Yes. But they are young and will be better for it. This was a bad match for them at the end of a run of games where they both showed a lot this season.

But I feel the best option would have been Hawkins instead of Neale especially since Hawkins showed a lot in his VFL game back. He would be good for at least a goal and assist at minimum and then if you have a mobile player you sub Hawkins if he struggled at 3/4 time.

The flip side is we got valuable experience in finals into Bruhn, Neale and Dempsey who will be long time fixtures in this team.

In the best scenario we have Rohan who's accurate goal kicking often steadied the ship in the past. You feel if we have him in the first quarter when we were on top he scores one of two.

Sadly injuries to important people, losing King to visit the WCE and then him collapsing, some weird selections and match day strategy and then horrendous officiating and players making some very dumb and selfish decisions or having horrendous matches have absolutely cost us.

Flag race was wide open this year, just like 2013, just like 2019, and we have absolutely bottled a golden opportunity.
Hope this doesn't come back to bite us. Hopefully the club sunsets a few players off the list and we aggressively target some midfielders, a lock down small defender and a ruck.

I guess on the flip side .
Scott choose Hawkins over moons for the 2011 GF.

If Neale was poor vs port they might of made the move.

 

[noclashjumpers]

So if the prevailing (and I think correct) view is that we over achieved this year, where now is the bar for next year?

With our list (including the changes both in and out), it's hard to know what the pass mark is for 2025.

 

[FootyLad0]

So when did Max injure the hamstring. He looked fine up until half time then on the bench for most of Q3.

Can’t be right after half time as pretty early in the 3rd Max intercepted a ball from Zorko’s kick to drill it to Danger in the square not long after half time.

Believe it was an air swing he did in the midfield shortly after that did it.

 

[FootyLad0]

So if the prevailing (and I think correct) view is that we over achieved this year, where now is the bar for next year?

With our list (including the changes both in and out), it's hard to know what the pass mark is for 2025.

I said 7th going into this year and we finished top 4.
I also predicted a Swans and Lions GF so there’s that…picture attached for proof when I did it back in February.
Got Crows and Pies wrong but got 6/8 Finalists right and both Carlton slipping in and Freo falling just short.
Also had Dees drop off right but Dogs drop off didn’t happen.

No one knew Hawks would skyrocket.
Basically needed to swap Crows with Hawks




2025 with a harder schedule reckon we might actually finish 7-10th spot (but what do I know lol)
Gonna lose a lot of experience and have some growing pains but it’ll be worth it.

 

[Cataholic]

So when did Max injure the hamstring. He looked fine up until half time then on the bench for most of Q3.

There was a moment he went to kick forward from near the centre and as he swung his leg the other slipped forward.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Maybe a pass on JHF who was still one of Port's best, but people keep saying he was on Neale last night and if that's the case Neale was one of the reasons Brisbane won and he was in the best 4 or 5 players on the field.
Bar is low because Mullin lacks footy sense and is there on an athletic level to tag, but Neale influence was massive and if it was Atkins who put up that performance on Neale everyone would want him delisted.

Axe was on Neale early.
But with flags in my face like at a Glastonbury concert I couldn't see everything

 

[Romeoh1]

There was a moment he went to kick forward from near the centre and as he swung his leg the other slipped forward.

Was it early in the 3rd?

 

[Cataholic]

Was it early in the 3rd?

I think so??

Can't specifically remember, though I clearly remember the moment.

His left leg was braced as he swung the right to kick the ball, and just before, or as he made contact, his left foot slipped forward.

 

[Mattlock]

The umpiring was horrendous last night.

But man, all we had to do was win a centre clearance, keep it tight and get some possession after going ahead late, and we couldn't.

That annoys me so much more.

 

[Romeoh1]

Also, Shannon Neale's shot in the last that was marked uncontested on the goal line. WTF.

I’m still not sure it didn’t make the goal line. Brissy player just grabbed it and ran off-I’d like to see it agin but aren’t looking it up.

 

[rocker_oz33]

So when did Max injure the hamstring. He looked fine up until half time then on the bench for most of Q3.

Would a major fail if they took Holmes of save him for next week.
We not winning that game without him.

 

[Commando]

Didn't might it .
Didn't get home to late .

If I was being picky I'd say start a little earlier
4.45 or 5

But I can't see a future where this isn't the GF time slot

 

[Romeoh1]

I think so??

Can't specifically remember, though I clearly remember the moment.

His left leg was braced as he swung the right to kick the ball, and just before, or as he made contact, his left foot slipped forward.

Yep I remember it just can’t think when it was. Poor max- would have been too cruel to make the gf and he missed out so it’s good karma in a way.

 

[Whiskers]

So if the prevailing (and I think correct) view is that we over achieved this year, where now is the bar for next year?

With our list (including the changes both in and out), it's hard to know what the pass mark is for 2025.

Anything can happen. Addition of smith could help, added experience to our young players, bit more fire in the belly.

On the flip side we did well on an injury front this year but it could be like 2023. Other sides likely to improve also.

Anything is possible, the opportunity this year was huge and I’m gutted it’s over.

 

[Cataholic]

I’m still not sure it didn’t make the goal line. Brissy player just grabbed it and ran off-I’d like to see it agin but aren’t looking it up.

He took the mark on the line.

All it needed was someone there to contest his run at the ball.

 

[Mattlock]

And I thought Mullin's best two career games were the two finals.

He arguably shouldn't be playing, but he did nothing but work hard and try to win his position. He did some nice little things too here and there. He might surprise a few next year with a post season of feedback, reflection and more focused training.

He is good 1 on 1 especially.

 

[rocker_oz33]

If I was being picky I'd say start a little earlier
4.45 or 5

But I can't see a future where this isn't the GF time slot

Felt a bit strange going to the footy at that time.
But getting home at a decent hour was surprising pretty good.

 

[#cats2021]

Is anyone else concerned Holmes has more hamstring issues at the end of a season?

100%.

That's twice he's gone down in Prelims.

He is a gun but I fear he won't reach his peak because he's made of glass. Not sure how they sort it out but they need to, otherwise it will cost us again.

 

[Commando]

My brother came home from overseas and is watching it currently.. doesn’t know the score and said to me “don’t tell me the score!! I haven’t seen or heard anything!” With an excited look and it was half time…

Maybe I need to pre prepare the scotch and tissues??

You must have a hell of a poker face

 

[rocker_oz33]

You must have a hell of a poker face

I didn't know lady GAga posts on BF...

 

[Munich]

I think so??

Can't specifically remember, though I clearly remember the moment.

His left leg was braced as he swung the right to kick the ball, and just before, or as he made contact, his left foot slipped forward.

So is that the left or the right leg injured?

I'm confused.

 

[And_ROOS]

He arguably shouldn't be playing, but he did nothing but work hard and try to win his position. He did some nice little things too here and there. He might surprise a few next year with a post season of feedback, reflection and more focused training.

He is good 1 on 1 especially.

He needs significant time in the ressies learning whatever position they envision for him. Do they want him as a burst out of the middle midfielder? Then give him 15 games at 80% there in the ressies to learn it. His role and contributions in the seniors don't justify his inclusion.
And at his age and inexperience it's still hard to see exactly what the upside here is or what the end game is. If the goal is to make him a tagger it's a waste because it's just a waste of a midfield slot.

 

[Cataholic]

So is that the left or the right leg injured?

I'm confused.

I won't say for certain, but from the incident I would've thought it'd be his left which stretched as it slipped......and they were rubbing his left when I think about it too.

 

[Vdubs]

No it's not.

It's a statement that Scott was very concerned with Port's weapons and less focussed on Geelong playing to its strengths. Mullin and Bews shut their men down against Port when we belted them but were not effective in a competitive game against Brisbane. The Lions smalls ran merry dance AND we took away one of our highest effective disposal winners for the season.

It cost us dearly. If Bews and Mullin blanketed and repelled all game it would have been a master-stroke. Some gambles pay off, some don't.

If !
We finished up higher than most would have predicted with our list, and what we saw v Port was perhaps too good to be true, but respecting the Lions’ talent is wisdom. Mullin is a player of the future and will have got more out of yesterday than the Port game