List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

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This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.
 
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akaifu said:
Membrey has a one-year offer in front of him from St Kilda (i believe) but he's weighing up interest from other clubs that might be closer to a premiership and are in need of his services more. You have him in emergencies, that would be the exact reason why he's considering his options - because he's not guaranteed best 22 next year with King, Sharman, Hammer, Keeler, Heath + potential draftees all vying for spots
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I hope he stays as King is always one week away from an injury, Keeler is not ready yet and either is Heath.
We have Hammer coming back from a shoulder reco and we need to find someone to take Battles spot so we don't really have as many options as you think and PS Shoey is no where near ready for Battles spot
 
Rogue Warrior said:
Surely we can take to the bank we have lined up a mature ruckman?
No way we can go into the season with Marshall + the 2 young untried blokes as backup.
Would be interesting what Soldo would cost?
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Campbell was a delisted free agent. There is always someone available.
 

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Round 1, 2025 - Revised

B.  Bice Howard Wilkie

H.B. NWM Tomlinson Sinclair

C. Macrae Brew Wilson

H.F. Butler Caminiti Henry

F. Higgins King Sharman

 Foll. Marshall Steele Jones

I/C.  Soldo, Owens, Phillipou, Windhager, Wood-sub.

Two's

B. McLennan Sch'maker Webster

H.B. Hastie Barrat Oliver

C. Hill Clark Lindsay

H.F. Garcia Cordy Hall

F. Collard Keeler Byrnes

Foll. Heath Lalor  Dow

I/C. O'Connell, Peckett, Stocker, Sandy rookie
 
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Saintscomemarchingin said:
Round 1, 2025

B.  Oliver Keeler Wilkie

H.B. NWM Caminiti Sinclair

C. Hill Brew Wilson

H.F. Butler Sharman Henry

F. Higgins King Owens

 Foll. Marshall Steele Jones

I/C.  Soldo, Phillipou, Lalor, Lindsay, Wood-sub.

Two's

B. Sch'maker Cole Webster

H.B. Hastie Barrat McLennan

C. O'Connell Clark Byrnes

H.F. Garcia Cordy Hall

F. Collard Howard  Hotton

Foll. Heath Windhager Dow

I/C. Hofman, Peckett, Stocker, Sandy rookie
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Not keen on winning round 1 ay? Each to their own l suppose..
 
Saintscomemarchingin said:
Round 1, 2025 - Revised

B.  Bice Howard Wilkie

H.B. NWM Tomlinson Sinclair

C. Macrae Brew Wilson

H.F. Butler Caminiti Henry

F. Higgins King Sharman

 Foll. Marshall Steele Jones

I/C.  Soldo, Owens, Phillipou, Windhager, Wood-sub.

Two's

B. McLennan Sch'maker Webster

H.B. Hastie Barrat Oliver

C. Hill Clark Lindsay

H.F. Garcia Cordy Hall

F. Collard Keeler Byrnes

Foll. Heath Lalor  Dow

I/C. O'Connell, Peckett, Stocker, Sandy rookie
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Took me ages to figure out who Brew is.
 
Saintscomemarchingin said:
Round 1, 2025

B.  Oliver Keeler Wilkie

H.B. NWM Caminiti Sinclair

C. Hill Brew Wilson

H.F. Butler Sharman Henry

F. Higgins King Owens

 Foll. Marshall Steele Jones

I/C.  Soldo, Phillipou, Lalor, Lindsay, Wood-sub.

Two's

B. Sch'maker Cole Webster

H.B. Hastie Barrat McLennan

C. O'Connell Clark Byrnes

H.F. Garcia Cordy Hall

F. Collard Howard  Hotton

Foll. Heath Windhager Dow

I/C. Hofman, Peckett, Stocker, Sandy rookie
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This looks like a post that was done at 3.50 am not PM for obvious reasons :drunk:
 

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Saintscomemarchingin said:
Round 1, 2025

B.  Oliver Keeler Wilkie

H.B. NWM Caminiti Sinclair

C. Hill Brew Wilson

H.F. Butler Sharman Henry

F. Higgins King Owens

 Foll. Marshall Steele Jones

I/C.  Soldo, Phillipou, Lalor, Lindsay, Wood-sub.

Two's

B. Sch'maker Cole Webster

H.B. Hastie Barrat McLennan

C. O'Connell Clark Byrnes

H.F. Garcia Cordy Hall

F. Collard Howard  Hotton

Foll. Heath Windhager Dow

I/C. Hofman, Peckett, Stocker, Sandy rookie
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Omg Ross is that you?
 
DEFENCE
Key/Tall Defenders

Callum Wilke (28)
Dougal Howard (28)
Josh Battle (24)
Zaine Cordy (27)
James Van Es (18)
Arie Schoenmaker (19)



General/Offensive Defenders
Jack Sinclair (29)
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (21)
Jimmy Webster (30)
Liam Stocker (24)
Riley Bonner
Ben Paton (24)
Tom Highmore (25)
Angus Hastie (19)
Angus McLennan (21)
Liam O'Connell (21)

Comments:
  • Lacking Quality Tall Key Defender, Wilke is great but is undersized.
  • Dougal Howard is serviceable and still has potential to be A grade.
  • NGA Key Defenders available to draft in:
    • Lennox Hofmann (190cm) NGA Potential Recruit - Projected draft range - 40 to 60
    • Adrian Cole (195cm) NGA Potential Recruit Projected draft range - 30 to 60
    • Windhager, Clark Hill can play as general defenders if required.
    • Keeler, Caminiti, Sharman could play as tall defenders if required.
  • With the depth of General Defenders it appears the uncontracted Ben Paton will be delisted.
MIDFIELD
Midfielders
Jack Macrae (30)
Jack Steele (28)
Mattaes Phillipou (19)
Zak Jones (29)
Brad Crouch (30) (will he retire in Febuary?)
Hunter Clark (25)
Marcus Windhager (21)
Paddy Dow (25)
Seb Ross (29)
Hugo Garcia 19

Wingers / Flankers
Mason Wood (31)
Liam Henry (23)
Brad Hill (31)
Darcy Wilson (19)
Daniel McKenzie (26)
Ryan Byrnes (23)


Comments:
  • In 2023 Preseason the Saints were lacking Young Developing Wingers, fast forward 12 months and we have 2 exceptional Wingers that both could move into midfield roles.
  • Mattaes at 190cm looks to be the Tall Bull of a Midfielder, with a bit of silk about him that we can build around.
  • Lacking explosive developing small goal kicking Midfielder.
  • On paper the aging players of Marshall, Steele, Macrae, Crouch, Jones, Wood and Hill could match most premiership quality midfields for talent.


RUCK
Rowan Marshall (28)
Tom Campbell (31)
Max Heath. (22)


Comments:
  • Ruck Depth - Was not a Priority in 2023 Draft however it is proving to be an important focus this offseason with Campbell and Likely the undersized pinch hitter Hayes delisted.
  • Pinch Hitters include Issac Keeler, Caminiti and Mitch Owens and the uncontracted Jack Hayes.

Forwards
Key Forwards
Max King (24)
Mitch Owens (21)
Jack Hayes (28)
Cooper Sharman (24)
Anthony Caminiti (20)
Tim Membrey (28)
Isaac Keeler (19)


Small Forward
Jack Higgins (25)
Dan Butler (27)
Lance Collard (19)

Best position unclear.
Olli Hotton
Matthew Allison


Forward Comments:
  • It would appear that Jack Hayes and Olli Hotton will be delisted.
    • Could there be a small possibility that the Saints are looking to re-rookie list them at the rookie draft.
    • I am certainly hoping Jack Hayes is extended at least as a depth player.
  • In 2024 Preseason I said, expect Membrey to be pushed out for the younger Key forwards, the call was one year early. But even still I did not predict a delisting.
  • Key Forwards Are stacked with promising developing players.
  • Expect in 2025 the forward line will be the weakest position again, with many players still seemingly in the development stage of their careers.
  • Small Forward depth and competition is lacking.
  • Hill, Wilson and Henry will look to add depth to the small forward/pressure role.
  • Wood to Provide Tall Forward depth.

Summary Comments:
  • Overall the List is unbalanced from an age and position distribution point of view but in a position to challenge in 2025.
  • There appears to be a focus on balance between performance in 2025 and the future.
  • Delistings of 8 players suggests moving towards the development stage.
    • Expect the club to use late picks to try and balance the list, with priority positions at the draft to be:
      • Mature key position defenders.
      • Developing Key Defenders.
      • Small Forwards
      • Mature Aged Ruck
      • Best available unless they are general defenders.
 
I would think we still may bring in a DFA as cover for Battle..

Those with AFL experience available:

Caleb Marchbank
Sam Durdin
Tom Clurey
Ethan Phillips
Granger Barras
Adam Tomlinson
Bigoa Nyuon
Tom Highmore
Josh Rotham

I am sure there are more.. anyone have any others?
Will we take any of them in the SSP?

Can Marchbank (only 27) do a Mason Wood and play consistent footy at St Kilda after an injury plagued career?

Is Tom Clurey any good?

Both seem like for like for Battle
 
BarkerFan said:
I would think we still may bring in a DFA as cover for Battle..

Those with AFL experience available:

Caleb Marchbank
Sam Durdin
Tom Clurey
Ethan Phillips
Granger Barras
Adam Tomlinson
Bigoa Nyuon
Tom Highmore
Josh Rotham

I am sure there are more.. anyone have any others?
Will we take any of them in the SSP?

Can Marchbank (only 27) do a Mason Wood and play consistent footy at St Kilda after an injury plagued career?

Is Tom Clurey any good?

Both seem like for like for Battle
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Saints have been linked with Ethan Phillips by reports. Saints were linked with Tomlinson during previous years. I’d avoid the injury prone players.

Sure, Wood was able to get over his injury concerns, but a big part of his career resurgence has been he is getting played on the wing and this allows him to display his aerobic strengths. Mason was never going to make it as a full time key forward like North tried.
 
BarkerFan said:
I would think we still may bring in a DFA as cover for Battle..

Those with AFL experience available:

Caleb Marchbank
Sam Durdin
Tom Clurey
Ethan Phillips
Granger Barras
Adam Tomlinson
Bigoa Nyuon
Tom Highmore
Josh Rotham

I am sure there are more.. anyone have any others?
Will we take any of them in the SSP?

Can Marchbank (only 27) do a Mason Wood and play consistent footy at St Kilda after an injury plagued career?

Is Tom Clurey any good?

Both seem like for like for Battle
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I'd be looking at Marchbank and Tomlinson from that group.

Both capable of playing immediately and are athletic types. We've already got two lumbering KPDs so a 3rd doesnt make much sense.
 
So now Hayes, Hotton, Patton all delisted too. It seems like we have cut alot of players with Crouch a possibility too.

Does anyone have a complete list?
 

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