List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Yeahnahmate]

I hear you. I say the same thing every time we stay in the family bungalow on Phu Quoc.

I think you should Phu Quoc right off if I’m honest

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Burgiel besides that glorious day when he bagged 4 undulated somewhere between half asleep and comatose. An icing on the cake player with good foot skills and vision - probably would have made more of it developing in a more winning and freely attacking side.

Do not mind the delisting at all that said - it’s great to keep your head and be composed, but he just had no urgency or fight in him whatsoever. Injury aside he spent his time waiting for the game to come to him, while watching it go past him at the same time

 

[WCErevival]

Hawks F1 and our F2 for a top 10 pick this year?

 

[Farang83150]

I hear you. I say the same thing every time we stay in the family bungalow on Phu Quoc.

The family bungalow...

 

[Hook461123]

My view of Baker may be different, but 14 was perhaps slightly overs and 26 under. There was no real middle option so in the end no big issues. He was their VC and a very solid worker.

It didn’t have to be a straight swap though we could’ve asked for a pick back

 

[eaglevision]

Unless it’s a deal in our favour where we literally can’t lose (eg F2 for pick 19) we should hold ALL our future picks and use them next year at full value. Bumper WA crop next year and losing out twice on a shit trade by doubling down is just dumb.

Watch Clarke trade Hawthorn’s F1 and pick 12 for pick 10 from Richmond and tell us all what a great trade it was to move up two spots.

 

[FKASC]

Watch Clarke trade Hawthorn’s F1 and pick 12 for pick 10 from Richmond and tell us all what a great trade it was to move up two spots.

Gotta do what it takes to secure Bo

 

[dinnaz]

Anyone know why Moraes has slid a fair bit in the last year with regards to his likely draft value? Was spoken about as a possible top 5 selection then, and now seen a few with him around the 30 mark

Media are dumb and copycat each other. 90% will be touted as a bolter or slider in August even if they have dominated since March.

Anywhere top 20 for mine and would not be unhappy with our pick.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Hawks F1 and our F2 for a top 10 pick this year?

Not sure that would get it done I don’t think

 

[Goomba1973]

Gotta do what it takes to secure Bo

Bo can go because we say no to Ginbey 2.0

 

[eaglespremiers]

I'd be rapt to snag Tauru at 12. I don't see it happening when Richmond, St Kilda and Melbourne all have multiple picks in front of us.

Tauru and Shanahan going before pick 12 is a good outcome as it pushes Travaglia as more likely to be available at our first pick.
Prior to our trade Carlton were absolutely the biggest threat to take him. As it currently stands I think the biggest risks are St Kilda or Richmond at their 2nd consecutive picks.
If they go tall instead then Travaglia at 12 may become a reality. It's an outside hope but one I'm clinging to.

 

[pantskyle]

I knew there was something wrong with you Kyle. Years ago I used to play competition pool for the pot black in Gosnells and even had a crazy GF from there but i'm not sure anyone could entice me back, not even for a drive through. That and you seemingly having better inside knowledge of the Kangaroos than I can get gives me a little red flag.

Alright inside knowledge of the eagles as well

 

[Mop]

Off to that special place in our hearts where Damian Cavka lives

Brad Smith too. What he could’ve been

 

[CountryLad]

Unless it’s a deal in our favour where we literally can’t lose (eg F2 for pick 19) we should hold ALL our future picks and use them next year at full value. Bumper WA crop next year and losing out twice on a shit trade by doubling down is just dumb.

Watch Clarke trade Hawthorn’s F1 and pick 12 for pick 10 from Richmond and tell us all what a great trade it was to move up two spots.

Most logical to me is our F2 for one of the Tigers Twenties picks if there’s a prospect the club really likes still available.

We have had a poor record of late using 2nd round selections but this draft could be the draft to do it. Two picks in the twenties would be an okay part of the draft.

Hynes, Moraes, Gross, Oliver, Urquhart, Davis and a number of kpd will all still be on the board most likely.

I’d hate to see us trade out the Hawks F1 for a late teen pick rather hold that for a crack at Warner or the likes of Cody Curtin next year.

 

[Mattman93]

Just take Hannaford at 12.

 

[Elite Pete]

Hawks F1 and our F2 for a top 10 pick this year?

Can’t see anyone being a buyer in the top 10 for futures unless it was both F1s and that a ridiculous price.

Tigers pick 11, Freo 14 is out best chance. Freo talking a big game of using 14 but I think they trade for futures.

Tigers are saying they are using picks in this draft so that’s looking unlikely. You’d hope that was part of us giving 14 for Baker is part of the deal but with Clarke unlikely

 

[archiemoses]

If DGB had spent the last 4 years on our list churning out the same level of performance as he has at Hawthorn posters here would be clamouring for his delisting

But because he’s been somewhere else supposedly we should look at him

I’d rather keep Rotham

Rotham has been doing the same for 8 years

 

[Balls In]

That pick three trade is like a rancid curry repeating on you a week after the bout of food poisoning. No one associated should have jobs. Even if we fluke the best player of the draft with 12 it would be by pure dumb luck.

 

[eaglevision]

Tauru and Shanahan going before pick 12 is a good outcome as it pushes Travaglia as more likely to be available at our first pick.
Prior to our trade Carlton were absolutely the biggest threat to take him. As it currently stands I think the biggest risks are St Kilda or Richmond at their 2nd consecutive picks.
If they go tall instead then Travaglia at 12 may become a reality. It's an outside hope but one I'm clinging to.

I see the four best realistic (although as you say Tobie is a pipe dream now) options at 12, 26 in combination without doubling up are:

Travaglia, Hynes
Lindsay, Oliver
Berry, Gross
Allan, Moraes

73 probably matches Champion but otherwise if it comes into a pick in the 50s a KPD such as Stumpf or Dennis should be considered.

We’ll take at least one rookie with the delisting of Culley but I’d hope Maric goes to the primary list and we take two. Hayes, Artemis and Dennis are all local boys that would be well worth giving an opportunity to if they aren’t taken in the national draft. There will be a lot of good options such is the depth of this draft.

 

[Altum Volantes]

If DGB had spent the last 4 years on our list churning out the same level of performance as he has at Hawthorn posters here would be clamouring for his delisting

But because he’s been somewhere else supposedly we should look at him

I’d rather keep Rotham

I am no major fan but Rotham…may…MAY…be seen as the kind of guy that can flourish in the right system, under a new coach.

His supposed versatility is likely his saving grace at the moment - and consider they’ve let Witherden go as a medium defender, while still working on the best positions for the likes of Hough and Ginbey I think suggests he’ll get another year at the Eagles. Unless someone out there is offering him 2 (kinda doubt that), in which case he’ll be set free.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Allan, Moraes

Who needs footskills?

 

[eaglevision]

Most logical to me is our F2 for one of the Tigers Twenties picks if there’s a prospect the club really likes still available.

We have had a poor record of late using 2nd round selections but this draft could be the draft to do it. Two picks in the twenties would be an okay part of the draft.

Hynes, Moraes, Gross, Oliver, Urquhart, Davis and a number of kpd will all still be on the board most likely.

I’d hate to see us trade out the Hawks F1 for a late teen pick rather hold that for a crack at Warner or the likes of Cody Curtin next year.

I agree. Pick 19 this year is obviously 24 which I should have clarified but yes, that’s the most logical trade to me. Essendon’s pick 28 for the Hawks F2 is another one we should target that would make sense. Be great to pick up a KPD in that part of the draft. HOF, Barrat or Mraz*.

100% hold the Hawks F1, we won’t get value for it this year.

 

[Monocle]

Gotta do what it takes to secure Bo

 

[eaglespremiers]

I think there is a high chance we end up with Berry provided we don’t trade pick 12 for Brisbane’s F4.

Not my preference as you know but could well be the best available and he appeals to WCE.

Guy has incredible aerial ability for someone his size.
Here's a mark he took early this season against Bendigo:

 

[eaglevision]

Who needs footskills?

Honestly if I had to put my house on it I think this is the most likely outcome.