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..most rucks are around the 100kg mark, or a little bit over 100kgs.... ..i highly doubt Patton is over 110..

..it's leigh brown they havent replaced.. ..first they tried dawes in that role, but he is a kpf, and never a dual role ruck/fwd.. ..then lynch, but he was done and dusted.. ..now white, who has been a battler, with the odd good game..

..classic mistake I find is how ppl expect rucks to be strong marks, when the opposite is more common.. ..constant training in regards to tap work seems to go against marking ability..

..just to refresh some memories of what krooz could do pre injury, this is in second year, holding down the ruck for us in a final, still remember the look on simon blacks face.. ..his 2nd game comeback after acl vs swans is one of the most complete games I have seen from a young ruck..

..agreed nothing is certain in football.. ..but the closest you do get to certainty, is over working a young ruck into injury.. ..I think he shows the same hunger for the contest that krooz has, vital in any ruck cos they set the tone for the whole match I believe, but that same work ethic can...

..have a laugh will ya, krooz has done an acl and broke a foot, pre injury he was looking to be a huge star.. ..grundy might follow a similar path, but is currently behind and hope for your sake you don't push and work him too hard too soon and cause injury, like we did with krooz and lime...

..with that in mind, i'd say troy menzel..

..seriously..?.. ..krooz has played more games [half a season more] and this is including the fact that he blew out his acl.. ..he was already playing good footy in his 1st season, 5th in the club B&F in just his 2nd season.. ..not that brownlow votes are an exact measurement but for a ruck not...

..i think this is a fair trade, slightly in your favour.. ..yes ppl may think he hasn't done enough in his time with the blues, but after drafting krooz and then trading in warnock, opportunity was always going to be hard to get.. ..for what it's worth, in his time with us he's played roughly...

..as has been said, you have to pay overs to shake loose restricted free agents.. ..may possibly take a bigger 'paycut' when he extends another season or two down the track, luke ball style [hopefully].. ..in regards to the state of his ankle, having buttifant also come across you'd think it's...

..am sure other posters can name good players from their own clubs that gws chased hard but failed to land.. ..in the year preceding your entry when you had the poaching rule benefit towards players coming out of contract, you chased Gibbs and Krooz very hard, especially Krooz.. ..chased a few...

..Buddy doesn't seem like the type that was willing to do all the extra publicity work to 'earn' the AFL marketing bonanza atop the giants wage, so he wants for the swans where he just does his footy for top dollar, and can relax outside of footy.. ..leaving melbourne to get away from the...

..still have memories of that brutal elim match in 2010.. ..reckon whoever wins, will still be feeling the battering next week vs freo.. ..looking at our team sheet, i'd be planning vs the squad, cos good chance a late change [or two] before the bounce..

..i don't mind Hampson, not a natural footballer but does have athletic ability.. ..rucking tapwork is under-rated actually, and last season had kicked 20g. 4b by the midway mark playing the 2nd ruck/kpf role.. ..his main problem has been inconsistency in regards to stringing a lot of...

..yes, but Bucks has the unfortunate added difficulty of the previous coach being loved by the players, and being persuaded to move on, prior to hitting top form with the club, and obviously wanting to continue to coach the group.. ..because of board decisions, Bucks has some within the playing...

..lookit, i'll preface what i'm gonna say with this.. ..i like Bucks [the coach].. ..i think he speaks extremely well to the media, and thru them the supporters.. ..doesn't seem like he treats the public with disdain.. ..answers questions honestly, and isn't given to coaching press games.. ..i...

..i thought Maric battled manfully, but blues played 2 1st rucks vs tigers 1 1st ruck and a KPF ruck relief.. ..Vickery has height, but not much actual ruck nous.. ..checkit.. ..Warnock had 30 taps at 37% to adv, combined with Krooz 22 taps at 41% to adv.. ..Maric had 26 taps at 35% adv, but...

..i think Bucks is fine.. ..issue isn't him at all.. ..it's a team that MM built to play a certain way, and that way takes total buy-in from the playing group.. ..Bucks has tweaked the plan, but the slight shift in players, combined with the NOT total buy-in has widened the cracks.. ..again...

..yes.. ..as a team, carlton is better for contested ball and clearances.. ..if you have better top end in this area, but as a unit are down.. ..then by taking out the blues best, reduces the blues unit and evens it across vs both teams.. ..can you dig it.. ..it's a case of either trying to stop...

..in regards to which player you guys ought to have crowley go to, in my opinion it would be simpson.. ..he's definitely the one that runs and carries the ball, sweeps the ball, gives tremendous drive and is getting a heap of possession while using it well.. .... ..however, he rarely plays as...

..cuts both ways though doesn't it..?.. ..with the modern game, the reasoning behind 'some of the deaths' of the small fwd, isn't their size but was generally their lack of endurance and ability to run down the wing to provide a target for the HBFs, to cut across the ground for the switch of...

..very different team in the way we play these days, even if there's enough of the same players on the field.. ..granted, this doesn't necessarily mean we should win.. ..8th/9th on the ladder down to 14th or so there isn't too much between that bunch of teams on any given day so it's hard to...

..if Nicholls is as tired as you say, is Dixon right to replace him as 1st ruck..?.. ..or Gorringe?, considering that they'll be up against Krooz primarily, and he's a machine in regards to work and covering the ground.. ..you'll want your fittest ruck up against him, just asking in regards to...

..their kids have the potential, but half the job is recruiting, the other half is development.. ..all these smashings will harden some players, but others may burn out, get shellshocked etc and may never recover enough to realise their full potential.. ..others still will jump ship.... ..all...

..correct, first knee injury was that patellar tendinitis he got treated over in sweden.. ..still, does he perhaps mean that patton has knee issues..?.. ..it's not time to panic, but you wouldn't have the belief that he's a 200+gamer.. ..not until he shows a long time with no big knee issues...

..let's face it, real rivalries are born on grand final day.. ..not sure about how many times cats vs hawks has occurred and what the results point to.. ..but blues vs pies goes as 6 GF matches, pies won the first, blues have won the following five matches.. ..in the first GF that the pies won...

..rumour among the comp. is that GWS are after, at a minimum!,, a player around the 21-23 yr old mark that's played close to 100 games, a player like 'cotchin' in regards to star ability.. ..that's the minimum.. ..if that's what they're chasing, no-one will bite.. ..not sure they should be so...

..lost the game, but i think blues still showed some insight into how to play vs hawks, better teams than ours have taken note.. ..as hawks likewise would have seen that they need to try harder to not allow opposition to dictate a more man on man style of footy against them..

..Browney's having a sook cos he copped a week, stupidly challenged it and had it extended to 2 weeks.. ..and in the origin game [was it wallan/] threw some nifty punches to the head and only got 1 week.. ..and so he compares afl to league origin and cries we're going soft.. ..what a knobhead...

..sure, plenty of ppl have argued with the opposite gender.. ..possibly quite angrily too.. ..but generally it's someone you have shared experiences with and come at a disagreement over.. ..rarely is it with 'strangers' you've only most recently met.. ..another question little asked so far, is...