Opinion 2014 Draft ( Live discussion ) Mod notice post #6629

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What chance are we of getting someone that can consistently hit a target by hand or foot under pressure at this pick?

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Bluebear, we just signed a promising young tall and you're back. Just in time for a thread analysing every touch Jaksch has ever had :thumbsu:

Who now???

Just kidding - he looks o.k. as a defender but the shocked look on his face (rather than an "I own you!" strut) when he kicked that goal against us has me a little concerned.

BB, I have this pain in my right shoulder still.....

Try swapping hands. :p

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Busy business and shitty life have kept me away from the keyboard, but I keep tabs from time to time.

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Menadue @ 19
Cockatoo @ 28 (too risky?)

?

Sounds reasonable ... Garlett thereabouts as well, but I understand that disposal of the above two is higher quality ...

Admittedly, my knowledge comes from online research and whatever Champs I catch on telly.
 
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I'm getting the feeling that this draft isn't that great, it seems a lot of recruiters are opting to sell rather than buy into the draft.

just a feeling nothing else
 
Assuming it isn't going to be used in some trade, who would people prefer to take at #19 out of Garlett and Pickett and why? Cheers

interesting question, assuming its out of those two.

Hard to say Pickett has been rated higher all year whereas Garlett has bolted into calculations on the back of his fantastic combine results
 
Menadue @ 19
Cockatoo @ 28 (too risky?)

?

Sounds reasonable ... Garlett thereabouts as well, but I understand that disposal of the above two is higher quality ...

Admittedly, my knowledge comes from online research and whatever Champs I catch on telly.

Forgot about Menadue......

Menadue is a Ryan Griffen clone. His ability to cut the game open with his run is astounding, and his disposal is first class. He is a long kick and he backs himself to take on the game. He has a bunch of evasive tricks and can avoid tackles with ease. His use by hand is particularly noteworthy, as his elite vision in contested situations allows him to dart off a handball to an outside runner who most other players wouldn’t spot. Menadue’s football IQ is upper echelon.

A little write up on him from Bound for Glory page. Sounds like the perfect winger?
 
On paper I like the sound of Menadue out of pickett, garlett and cockatoo (Ahern if he slides). Oscar Mcdonald would be a nice get as well, but not sure if he will be there at 28.
 
Forgot about Menadue......

Menadue is a Ryan Griffen clone. His ability to cut the game open with his run is astounding, and his disposal is first class. He is a long kick and he backs himself to take on the game. He has a bunch of evasive tricks and can avoid tackles with ease. His use by hand is particularly noteworthy, as his elite vision in contested situations allows him to dart off a handball to an outside runner who most other players wouldn’t spot. Menadue’s football IQ is upper echelon.

A little write up on him from Bound for Glory page. Sounds like the perfect winger?


With a write-up like that, I doubt he'll last till 19 .... Unless people are turned off by the Ryan Griffen comparison ;)

Sounds like a jet ...
 

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Assuming it isn't going to be used in some trade, who would people prefer to take at #19 out of Garlett and Pickett and why? Cheers
I'd take Pickett ahead of Garlett, I'm not at all saying Garlett is soft but Pickett is hard at the contest, the kid will run through a wall for you it seems
 
With a write-up like that, I doubt he'll last till 19 .... Unless people are turned off by the Ryan Griffen comparison ;)

Sounds like a jet ...

sounds great but I have to say to this day I have never seen a negative Bound for glory draft profile. I'm not sure if that tarnishes the source or not
 
sounds great but I have to say to this day I have never seen a negative Bound for glory draft profile. I'm not sure if that tarnishes the source or not

Shane Sexton - a little more reserved:

Connor Menadue (Western Jets)

Born 19.9.1996, 188cm, 69kg

AFL biography: Excellent athlete that uses his pace and running capacity to run and carry the footy and often breaks the lines. A quiet kid by nature that has the ability to play on a range of opponents regardless of size. Averaged 19.6 disposals per game in his 14 matches for the Western Jets. Consistency is his greatest strength.

Shane Sexton, Western Jets: "Connor's been really impressive, from start to finish this year. He was our best player in the first four or five games and we weren't too sure about him before then but he's been outstanding and he's our best speed and endurance athlete by far. He can run all day. He played some reasonably footy at the national championships bitu he finished off the year really well and he was easily our best player in the elimination final so he's played well under some pressure. He's that type who can run and carry and kick a goal off the half-backline, he's very capable overhead and he'll run a `5-plus beep test and test really well in the sprint. He's a good runner, a nice size and I think he'll be very capable of playing the modern game."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ester-medium-midfielders-20141002-10pj9n.html
 
Forgot about Menadue......

Menadue is a Ryan Griffen clone. His ability to cut the game open with his run is astounding, and his disposal is first class. He is a long kick and he backs himself to take on the game. He has a bunch of evasive tricks and can avoid tackles with ease. His use by hand is particularly noteworthy, as his elite vision in contested situations allows him to dart off a handball to an outside runner who most other players wouldn’t spot. Menadue’s football IQ is upper echelon.

A little write up on him from Bound for Glory page. Sounds like the perfect winger?
Isn't he a similar size to Bootsma, maybe even skinnier? I'm not confident in the idea of picking first round project players.
 
Isn't he a similar size to Bootsma, maybe even skinnier? I'm not confident in the idea of picking first round project players.


I don't think size was Bootsma's issue.

I also don't think size is a huge concern if you have other strengths, which Menadue seems to have.

Haven't been able to locate any video footage of him.
 
I'd take Pickett ahead of Garlett, I'm not at all saying Garlett is soft but Pickett is hard at the contest, the kid will run through a wall for you it seems

I'm hearing that he has pretty good foot skills as well, and it sounds like there's nobody faster than him. Probably little chance he'll still be there at #19, tbh.
 
I don't think size was Bootsma's issue.

I also don't think size is a huge concern if you have other strengths, which Menadue seems to have.

Haven't been able to locate any video footage of him.
Bootsma also had many strengths, & size was one of his issues. Anyway it's not worth going into it here, basically I'm just saying I personally have too many bad memories of first round project players.
Menadue is eight months younger than top 5 picks, Petracca and Brayshaw.

Don't expect every kid to be physically developed in their first year.
I don't expect every kid to be physically developed, but I want first round draft picks to be somewhat developed. Then get the high risk, high reward types later.
 
Bootsma also had many strengths, & size was one of his issues. Anyway it's not worth going into it here, basically I'm just saying I personally have too many bad memories of first round project players.

I don't expect every kid to be physically developed, but I want first round draft picks to be somewhat developed. Then get the high risk, high reward types later.


Yeah, I guess he did but I never noticed them .. I'm not having a go, just never really saw it? He had long arms (sounds a bit like The Office's Keith doing his self-appraisal (strengths: accounts, weaknesses: eczema)), big kick? .... He never really looked like a footballer that was going to do anything much, to me anyway .. I just put him down as one of our draft blunders ... Then you look at skinny types like Bontempelli and he has enough tricks up his sleeve that his size doesn't hold him back... We can only back our people in, and they seem to be doing a good job so far. I'd be pretty stoked with Menadue bc he sounds so exciting, but there's plenty of players out there that are appealing.

EDIT: I agree wholeheartedly regarding the 'project player' type when the project is taking an athlete and teaching them the game
 
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I don't expect every kid to be physically developed, but I want first round draft picks to be somewhat developed. Then get the high risk, high reward types later.

The other way of looking at it is if a scrawny kid is good enough on talent to be rated top 20, imagine how good he'll be in 3 years time!

C Menadue 188cm born Sept 19 pick 19?
N Fyfe 190cm born Sept 18 pick 20.

I know nothing about the talent pool in this draft or whether Connor is that player but having surrendered pick 7, we're looking for a slider.
 
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