List Mgmt. 2016 Trade and Free Agency Targets Part 1

[Rors]

Edit: Rors i just saw my error be assured i was right with you. I intended to say we "wouldn't" have gotten Parish

All good mate

 

[Cabba]

Sorry guys my bad i thought francis was selected before parish

 

[Loyal Sainter]

Does anyone think we will regret the swap of pick 5 for carlisle and pick 18? Parish just looks exectly what we seem to be lacking at the moment with outside run etc.
Could just be me forgetting how good carlisle actually is

We wouldn't have been able to get Parish even if we had kept pick 5. Also after seeing the struggle Chips had against a monster forward Carlisle is EXACTLY what we need!!!

Edit : sorry to be repetitive. Just saw the other posts re Parish.

 

[Murraj1966]

Ok then we're all friends again and Parish is a kool aid drinker

 

[SaintsSeptember]

After watching yesterday's game against Port it showed how valuable a power forward is to the structure of a side

Can we wait just a little while before we write Paddy off?

 

[Cabba]

Anyone know what the opposition side was like in the vfl practice match yesterday? 15marks 25 disposals and 7 goals for paddy.

 

[STK2020]

Anyone know what the opposition side was like in the vfl practice match yesterday? 15marks 25 disposals and 7 goals for paddy.

 

[Glen Buterol]

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Please don't post pictures of Darren Jarman in drag it brings back nightmares from 97.

 

[plugger66]

Please don't post pictures of Darren Jarman in drag it brings back nightmares from 97.

That was the other picture BS could have posted of me.

 

[bird_man]

After watching yesterday's game against Port it showed how valuable a power forward is to the structure of a side

Bruce and McCartin look pretty good to me.

 

[Defacto]

any one else worried that we seem to have a thing for drafting flankers and trying to turn them into midfielders?

 

[crasha301]

any one else worried that we seem to have a thing for drafting flankers and trying to turn them into midfielders?

Not yet for me. I think our genuine mids will come from the next 2 drafts.

 

[FlyingSledghamer]

Anyone know what the opposition side was like in the vfl practice match yesterday? 15marks 25 disposals and 7 goals for paddy.

TDL had 30 and 4 goals

 

[Glen Buterol]

TDL had 30 and 4 goals

I thought he kicked 6?

 

[Barrels]

any one else worried that we seem to have a thing for drafting flankers and trying to turn them into midfielders?

"Very smooth natural forward player with very good-uncanny goal sense and play reading ability - can play in a pocket as a 3rd tall marking target or in a ball winning, roaming high HFF roaming role. Has some flair/X-factor about him."

Say hi to a skinny young 2009 prospect called Nat Fyfe.

So... Not really, no.

 

[Defacto]

"Very smooth natural forward player with very good-uncanny goal sense and play reading ability - can play in a pocket as a 3rd tall marking target or in a ball winning, roaming high HFF roaming role. Has some flair/X-factor about him."

Say hi to a skinny young 2009 prospect called Nat Fyfe.

So... Not really, no.

do we think freo were planning for fyfe to be a midfielder or did it just turn out that way?

 

[saint_]

do we think freo were planning for fyfe to be a midfielder or did it just turn out that way?

I believe it's the heart and desire of the individual. Some players just want to improve more than others.

 

[Barrels]

do we think freo were planning for fyfe to be a midfielder or did it just turn out that way?

(Most) ruckmen aside, I don't think anyone's pigeonholed to a set position anymore in modern footy.

I was certainly no AFL talent, but even I went from a skinny rover, to a nuggety (fat) back pocket, to a nuggety (less fat) back flanker, to a rugged centreman*, to a skinny wingman as I grew, matured and changed shape.

And that was years ago.

*or inside mid, these days...

 

[Joffaboy]

(Most) ruckmen aside, I don't think anyone's pigeonholed to a set position anymore in modern footy.

I was certainly no AFL talent, but even I went from a skinny rover, to a nuggety (fat) back pocket, to a nuggety (less fat) back flanker, to a rugged centreman*, to a skinny wingman as I grew, matured and changed shape.

And that was years ago.

*or inside mid, these days...

Now you are just a fat plonker

 

[Barrels]

Now you are just a fat plonker

Not just a fat plonker... I'm a first-round prospect as a smartarse too.

 

[bird_man]

any one else worried that we seem to have a thing for drafting flankers and trying to turn them into midfielders?

Like who?

Ross, Acres and Dunstan were all midfielders when we drafted them. Billings played mostly up forward but I have no doubt he'll become a midfielder. Gresham is a midfielder.

All other guys that we drafted as flankers I expect to stay as flankers predominately e.g. McKenzie, White, Rice, Newnes etc. (McKenzie was a midfielder and may end up spending time in there but I think he's best suited to a HBF.)

Some of those guys might spend time in the midfield but I expect our midfield to be Steven, Armo, Billings, Dunstan, Ross, Acres, Gresham and whoever we can draft/trade in the next couple of years.

 

[Glen Buterol]

Like who?

Ross, Acres and Dunstan were all midfielders when we drafted them. Billings played mostly up forward but I have no doubt he'll become a midfielder. Gresham is a midfielder.

All other guys that we drafted as flankers I expect to stay as flankers predominately e.g. McKenzie, White, Rice, Newnes etc. (McKenzie was a midfielder and may end up spending time in there but I think he's best suited to a HBF.

Pretty happy with our pure mids atm especially if we continue to get 60 clearances a game.

Flankers are essentially mids anyway. I'd hope we continue to target flankers as long as they can run all day & have a natural forward game.

 

[Defacto]

Like who?

Ross, Acres and Dunstan were all midfielders when we drafted them. Billings played mostly up forward but I have no doubt he'll become a midfielder. Gresham is a midfielder.

All other guys that we drafted as flankers I expect to stay as flankers predominately e.g. McKenzie, White, Rice, Newnes etc. (McKenzie was a midfielder and may end up spending time in there but I think he's best suited to a HBF.)

Some of those guys might spend time in the midfield but I expect our midfield to be Steven, Armo, Billings, Dunstan, Ross, Acres, Gresham and whoever we can draft/trade in the next couple of years.

ross was a genuine inside mid

but acres and dunstan certainly were not. acres played across half back and half fwd flank in the champs where as dunstan was a half back flanker. acres at colts level spent time in the center against very inferior opposition, which is not a good indicator of if he is a midfielder

i'll let barrels speak for gresh

armitage and ross are probably the genuine mids that came through (outside of gresh) where as the other seemed to be partial entities that we are trying to push into the role. my worry is this is different to say a cripps, brayshaw, oliver, wines, viney etc. that were genuine midfielders

 

[Defacto]

(Most) ruckmen aside, I don't think anyone's pigeonholed to a set position anymore in modern footy.

I was certainly no AFL talent, but even I went from a skinny rover, to a nuggety (fat) back pocket, to a nuggety (less fat) back flanker, to a rugged centreman*, to a skinny wingman as I grew, matured and changed shape.

And that was years ago.

*or inside mid, these days...

its a fair point, i'm just starting to sense a trend where the genuine mid-fielders are the ones that are progressing and dominating early on. looks to be a return back to how football was before with the harveys, buckley, voss's of the world. so my worry is our midfield in 2 years time wont be as potent as some of the other sides coming up around the same time

 

[saintsrfreak]

ross was a genuine inside mid

but acres and dunstan certainly were not. acres played across half back and half fwd flank in the champs where as dunstan was a half back flanker. acres at colts level spent time in the center against very inferior opposition, which is not a good indicator of if he is a midfielder

i'll let barrels speak for gresh

armitage and ross are probably the genuine mids that came through (outside of gresh) where as the other seemed to be partial entities that we are trying to push into the role. my worry is this is different to say a cripps, brayshaw, oliver, wines, viney etc. that were genuine midfielders

Dunno mate, seems like just about whenever Acres plays in the centre for Sandy he has a day out.