List Mgmt. 2016 Trade/Free Agency Part 2

[RockJobster0312]

The only thing that can save us from losing pick 6 is Balme saying **** off. Outside that we will spread our cheeks just like we do each trade period

Legit question.... when was that? Like with Yarran when they wanted 12 and they gave up and got 19?

I can't think of any other trades where I would say we have got 'bent over' other than maybe Hampson... and he has proven to be at least okay. Maybe not worth what we gave up, but not far away.

Am I missing any trades?

 

[CoggaRules]

Legit question.... when was that? Like with Yarran when they wanted 12 and they gave up and got 19?

I can't think of any other trades where I would say we have got 'bent over' other than maybe Hampson... and he has proven to be at least okay. Maybe not worth what we gave up, but not far away.

Am I missing any trades?

Just think about the answer to our problems that we just extended for 2 years because he took a mark and had 4 kicks which was an improvement on his previous returns so we locked him in because the rest of the Comp were after him P.S. We got bent over double with the Yarran deal too. Are you serious dude? We did double back flips with a triple somersault to get Pick 19 so we didn't give up 12 and you think we didn't bend over correct?

 

[RockJobster0312]

Just think about the answer to our problems that we just extended for 2 years because he took a mark and had 4 kicks which was an improvement on his previous returns so we locked him in because the rest of the Comp were after him

And that's fine... but sort of wasn't my question. Other than the Hammer trade (where we gave up too much but I personally don't believe we were far away) what are the other trades we've lost out on?

Not being facetious, I'm legitimately asking the question.

 

[CoggaRules]

And that's fine... but sort of wasn't my question. Other than the Hammer trade (where we gave up too much but I personally don't believe we were far away) what are the other trades we've lost out on?

Not being facetious, I'm legitimately asking the question.

At the end of the day we have made 2.46 trades in how long? Forget about trading pick 70 and 120 we are talking at the head of the market and both of them we caved in and the comp knows it. Now Prestia has announced us we have no position other than to seem like we are hard knowing full well Suns know we are desperate.

 

[Wacky Tiger]

All i can say is i feel a hell of a lot more comfortable knowing Balmey is in charge coming into this free agency / trade period.

 

[Tiger_4_Life]

Grubby Alan.... Hope he gets suspended for a year but the afl will protect him and gws. What a corrupt sport we support

 

[CoggaRules]

I think the club don't want to piss FJ off for a second time

 

[tigs2010]

Legit question.... when was that? Like with Yarran when they wanted 12 and they gave up and got 19?

I can't think of any other trades where I would say we have got 'bent over' other than maybe Hampson... and he has proven to be at least okay. Maybe not worth what we gave up, but not far away.

Am I missing any trades?

We didn't get 'bent over' in that trade. We bent over ourselves and spread them

 

[MR]

I'm going to take a bit of a different angle to how we should approach this off-season.

We desperately require leaders at our club who can drive a winning culture, even if in the process we miss out on blooding certain young players.

Let's actually have a look at the most senior guys on our list. For this exercise, I'll only be listing players 28 years old and above.

Brett Deledio (29)
Shaun Grigg (28)
Bachar Houli (28)
Shaun Hampson (28)
Ivan Maric (30)

Have you seen a more pitiful group of senior leaders at a club? How many of these guys have won a final? One of them has, Ivan Maric, back in 2009 and he's practically cooked.

When the leaders of the playing group do not have the experience to drive elite expectations, it is not a shock that this rabble of a season occurred.

I think this matter is immensely significant and needs to be addressed if we want to get back onto our feet.

Therefore, I would be offering contracts to Hodge, Bartel, or any senior leaders who drove the culture of success at Geelong, Sydney or Hawthorn to come over for a few years to teach our boys what it means to be an elite club.

One of the best defenders of the last decade, Corey Enright is weighing up his future, Dal Santo is on the market currently. Imagine the impact that these guys can have on the young ones. Oleg Markov apprenticing himself to perhaps the most glorious half back the game has ever seen, or Corey Ellis learning how to apply his silk and vision to the extreme under Dal Santo. On top of that, these guys will only raise the standard of expectation and hard work at our club.

 

[RockJobster0312]

At the end of the day we have made 2.46 trades in how long? Forget about trading pick 70 and 120 we are talking at the head of the market and both of them we caved in and the comp knows it. Now Prestia has announced us we have no position other than to seem like we are hard knowing full well Suns know we are desperate.

Not sure what the bolded part means, but that doesn't really seem to me like it's not really 'getting bent over', it's more inactivity? Which I agree with.

I'm going to take a bit of a different angle to how we should approach this off-season.

We desperately require leaders at our club who can drive a winning culture, even if in the process we miss out on blooding certain young players.

Let's actually have a look at the most senior guys on our list. For this exercise, I'll only be listing players 28 years old and above.

Brett Deledio (29)
Shaun Grigg (28)
Bachar Houli (28)
Shaun Hampson (28)
Ivan Maric (30)

Have you seen a more pitiful group of senior leaders at a club? How many of these guys have won a final? One of them has, Ivan Maric, back in 2009 and he's practically cooked.

When the leaders of the playing group do not have the experience to drive elite expectations, it is not a shock that this rabble of a season occurred.

I think this matter is immensely significant and needs to be addressed if we want to get back onto our feet.

Therefore, I would be offering contracts to Hodge, Bartel, or any senior leaders who drove the culture of success at Geelong, Sydney or Hawthorn to come over for a few years to teach our boys what it means to be an elite club.

One of the best defenders of the last decade, Corey Enright is weighing up his future, Dal Santo is on the market currently. Imagine the impact that these guys can have on the young ones. Oleg Markov apprenticing himself to perhaps the most glorious half back the game has ever seen, or Corey Ellis learning how to apply his silk and vision to the extreme under Dal Santo. On top of that, these guys will only raise the standard of expectation and hard work at our club.

Good post. Hadn't thought like that before. But as long as it doesn't keep someone like an Ellis, or a Markov out of the side unnecessarily, I'm all for it.

 

[tunksy]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...nt-road-future-uncertain-20160913-grfkkc.html

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Gone.

 

[MR]

Good post. Hadn't thought like that before. But as long as it doesn't keep someone like an Ellis, or a Markov out of the side unnecessarily, I'm all for it.

Would keep a Taylor Hunt, Kane Lambert or Andrew Moore out of the side until the next generation is ready to take over.

 

[cairo tiger]

I'm going to take a bit of a different angle to how we should approach this off-season.

We desperately require leaders at our club who can drive a winning culture, even if in the process we miss out on blooding certain young players.

Let's actually have a look at the most senior guys on our list. For this exercise, I'll only be listing players 28 years old and above.

Brett Deledio (29)
Shaun Grigg (28)
Bachar Houli (28)
Shaun Hampson (28)
Ivan Maric (30)

Have you seen a more pitiful group of senior leaders at a club? How many of these guys have won a final? One of them has, Ivan Maric, back in 2009 and he's practically cooked.

When the leaders of the playing group do not have the experience to drive elite expectations, it is not a shock that this rabble of a season occurred.

I think this matter is immensely significant and needs to be addressed if we want to get back onto our feet.

Therefore, I would be offering contracts to Hodge, Bartel, or any senior leaders who drove the culture of success at Geelong, Sydney or Hawthorn to come over for a few years to teach our boys what it means to be an elite club.

One of the best defenders of the last decade, Corey Enright is weighing up his future, Dal Santo is on the market currently. Imagine the impact that these guys can have on the young ones. Oleg Markov apprenticing himself to perhaps the most glorious half back the game has ever seen, or Corey Ellis learning how to apply his silk and vision to the extreme under Dal Santo. On top of that, these guys will only raise the standard of expectation and hard work at our club.

in playing roles? I dont think so.

Like it in principle
Bartel-slow as paint drying-not worth it
Hodge - has one year left at hawthorn and then will be the same.
Enright- maybe.
Dal- handy maybe for one year I dont see him as an inspirational leader.
what other options?

 

[Goldust]

Legit question.... when was that? Like with Yarran when they wanted 12 and they gave up and got 19?

I can't think of any other trades where I would say we have got 'bent over' other than maybe Hampson... and he has proven to be at least okay. Maybe not worth what we gave up, but not far away.

Am I missing any trades?

TO my way of thinking, giving up a second rounder, third rounder or fourth rounder is too much on a guy who won't set foot on th epark for the black and gold.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

TO my way of thinking, giving up a second rounder, third rounder or fourth rounder is too much on a guy who won't set foot on th epark for the black and gold.

TO my way of thinking, giving up a second rounder, third rounder or fourth rounder is too much on a guy who won't set foot on th epark for the black and gold.

He will be playing against his old tem round 1 next year.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

If he doesn't THENi will concede that he may never play for us.

 

[Wacky Tiger]

I'm going to take a bit of a different angle to how we should approach this off-season.

We desperately require leaders at our club who can drive a winning culture, even if in the process we miss out on blooding certain young players.

Let's actually have a look at the most senior guys on our list. For this exercise, I'll only be listing players 28 years old and above.

Brett Deledio (29)
Shaun Grigg (28)
Bachar Houli (28)
Shaun Hampson (28)
Ivan Maric (30)

Have you seen a more pitiful group of senior leaders at a club? How many of these guys have won a final? One of them has, Ivan Maric, back in 2009 and he's practically cooked.

When the leaders of the playing group do not have the experience to drive elite expectations, it is not a shock that this rabble of a season occurred.

I think this matter is immensely significant and needs to be addressed if we want to get back onto our feet.

Therefore, I would be offering contracts to Hodge, Bartel, or any senior leaders who drove the culture of success at Geelong, Sydney or Hawthorn to come over for a few years to teach our boys what it means to be an elite club.

One of the best defenders of the last decade, Corey Enright is weighing up his future, Dal Santo is on the market currently. Imagine the impact that these guys can have on the young ones. Oleg Markov apprenticing himself to perhaps the most glorious half back the game has ever seen, or Corey Ellis learning how to apply his silk and vision to the extreme under Dal Santo. On top of that, these guys will only raise the standard of expectation and hard work at our club.

Absolutely love this post. Ive been saying it for years. Our leaders should be here from those failed drafts of the 2002-2005 period. We literally have noone from that period on our list now outside of Lids.

As ordinary as he was as a footballer its no suprise that our defence was one of the best going round when we had Troy Chaplin out there organising things.

Git'r done Balmey

 

[Hank Heavenly]

I wonder if the club are looking at Jack Darling...
Clearly has some knockers with his GF melt down last year and two poor mistakes against the dogs.
Would be the Secondary fwd Jack needs, can play the higher key role allowing Jack to be closer to goal again.

He has his faults, which would be why WCE may be interested in letting him go, but I think he would improve our structure a lot.

It clearly won't be a doozy, but I think his output would be better than Griffiths and the Key 2nd role, allowing him to be that 3rd tall changing in the ruck

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

I'm going to take a bit of a different angle to how we should approach this off-season.

We desperately require leaders at our club who can drive a winning culture, even if in the process we miss out on blooding certain young players.

Let's actually have a look at the most senior guys on our list. For this exercise, I'll only be listing players 28 years old and above.

Brett Deledio (29)
Shaun Grigg (28)
Bachar Houli (28)
Shaun Hampson (28)
Ivan Maric (30)

Have you seen a more pitiful group of senior leaders at a club? How many of these guys have won a final? One of them has, Ivan Maric, back in 2009 and he's practically cooked.

When the leaders of the playing group do not have the experience to drive elite expectations, it is not a shock that this rabble of a season occurred.

I think this matter is immensely significant and needs to be addressed if we want to get back onto our feet.

Therefore, I would be offering contracts to Hodge, Bartel, or any senior leaders who drove the culture of success at Geelong, Sydney or Hawthorn to come over for a few years to teach our boys what it means to be an elite club.

One of the best defenders of the last decade, Corey Enright is weighing up his future, Dal Santo is on the market currently. Imagine the impact that these guys can have on the young ones. Oleg Markov apprenticing himself to perhaps the most glorious half back the game has ever seen, or Corey Ellis learning how to apply his silk and vision to the extreme under Dal Santo. On top of that, these guys will only raise the standard of expectation and hard work at our club.

Was thinking of this myself when Dal Santo was told he wasn't required. Which I'm all for it provided the senior player we bring in shares a similar game to the youngster he is brought in to mentor, like Dal Santo does with Ellis. Could also look at someone like Barlow (depending on cost) to help with Vlastuins transition to midfield, that in turn could make Miles expendable and a good trade chip.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Watching Fox Footy last night it sounded like Del was potentially looking to go back to St Kilda...

 

[Grechy]

Was thinking of this myself when Dal Santo was told he wasn't required. Which I'm all for it provided the senior player we bring in shares a similar game to the youngster he is brought in to mentor, like Dal Santo does with Ellis. Could also look at someone like Barlow (depending on cost) to help with Vlastuins transition to midfield, that in turn could make Miles expendable and a good trade chip.

Yeah let's bring Dal Santo over. A 30+ year old squib.

 

[Tigerriffic]

Watched the NEAFL Grand Final last night and wondered what others thoughts are on some of the players for example if we were to trade away Miles to Gold Coast which I think we are a strong chance to would Barrett be looked at, he is a midget by the looks but he is also a ball winning machine, have no idea about his disposal efficiency but if he played AFL as an Inside mid he would only need handball which shouldn't be that hard to hit targets and the other was Stewart who had a stinker for three quarters but interestingly showed a bit when he went to the wing with some big tackles and a couple of goals is he worth looking at, I think he should be looked at strongly but not sure whether he will develop as we hope and need

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

I wonder if the club are looking at Jack Darling...
Clearly has some knockers with his GF melt down last year and two poor mistakes against the dogs.
Would be the Secondary fwd Jack needs, can play the higher key role allowing Jack to be closer to goal again.

He has his faults, which would be why WCE may be interested in letting him go, but I think he would improve our structure a lot.

It clearly won't be a doozy, but I think his output would be better than Griffiths and the Key 2nd role, allowing him to be that 3rd tall changing in the ruck

Swap for Tyrone. Chuck in extra if we have to. I just want to see TV in a West Coast jumper.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Yeah let's bring Dal Santo over. A 30+ year old squib.

We could potentially lose Maric, Deledio, Edwards this trade period whilst already having lost Chaplin. Thats a lot of experience to lose in one off season, especially given we lost experienced players last off season. We need to replace these experienced players and if we can do that without giving up picks or players to do so then we should do it.

Development of our younger players should be priority but they will develop a lot better with experienced players around them.

 

[pebblestone]

Lids & Conca>>Geel>>Motlop>>Suns>>Prestia>>Rich.
Pick 6 and Lennon>>Bris>>Pick 2(Brodie)
BEllis & Compo pick>>Syd>>Mitchell & Nankervis>>Rich.

IN-Prestia,Mitchell & Brodie.
With those 3 i'd even shop Miles around for a tall.

Very like. Would be the best off season in livlng memory.