And then plateau.. I’ve seen way too many of these early developers play like monsters in kids football only to drop by the wayside in the company of men..
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And then plateau.. I’ve seen way too many of these early developers play like monsters in kids football only to drop by the wayside in the company of men..
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Murray wasn't a regular this season. I'd be looking at B.Goddard if after someone who can add to that backline.
If a bid comes after Collingwood's first pick, he can be matched.
A bid before Collingwood's first is a hard no from me.
Likewise Kelly.
I thought he moved into the midfield late in the season and the interest spiked?
Didn’t he play on Walsh and kept him quiet?
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He’s gone onto the wing occasionally, but mainly still back. Walsh had 33 touches that day so I’m not sure, I haven’t seen the game.
Oops....Maybe it wasn’t that game.
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Does not get high numbers, but has very good skills, good 1v1 can find time and space. Kid steps up.
Personally l don’t get the Lumumba bit. Can hit targets and lowers the eyes.
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Spot on. Much better user. Also has genuine scope to play higher up the ground. Will be a ripper.
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VFL 2018: the VFL’s Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal is a ticket to the AFL
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Of the 29 winners, 18 made the rise to the AFL, starting with Ron Delulio in 1991.
The medal, for the “most promising’’ 23 and under player, was introduced in 1989. It recognises two players who won both a Liston Trophy in the VFA and a Brownlow Medal in the VFA/AFL, Des Fothergill and Barry Round.
This year it has been rebadged the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal to also acknowledge Sam Mitchell, who famously won the 2002 Liston with a staggering 31 votes from 11 games. In 2016 Mitchell and Trent Cotchin were retrospectively presented with the 2012 Brownlow.
Fritsch, now starring at Melbourne, was a standout candidate for the medal last season. But this year the selection panel faced the tough task of trying to split a sterling field that included Williamstown’s 2016 JJ Liston Trophy Michael Gibbons, Collingwood defender Marty Hore, fast-rising Werribee forward Josh Corbett and highly regarded Footscray Bulldog Will Hayes.
“It was an outstanding field, just purely by the weight of numbers when you look at the particular players and their performances throughout the year,’’ VFL talent operations co-ordinator Sam Sheehan said this morning.
“You could arguably make a case for six, eight, 10 guys, all with legitimate claims to win the award. Michael Gibbons is eligible, for example, and he’s won a Liston Trophy.’’
This year’s Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal will be announced at the JJ Liston Trophy presentation at Crown Palladium on Monday, September 10.
THE CONTENDERS
MARCUS LENTINI, COBURG
The first-year Lions midfielder had an outstanding season, collecting a league equal-best 509 disposals from 18 matches. No player had more contested possessions than the Northern Knights graduate’s 254.
Coburg midfielder Marcus Lentini.
MICHAEL GIBBONS, WILLIAMSTOWN
Paul Roos drummed up some buzz about the Towners little man last week and Gibbons responded with a dazzling performance in the final round. Finished locked with Marcus Lentini for most disposals and led the VFL for clearances and inside-50s. The right-footer already has quite a medal collection: the 2015 Norm Goss Medal as best-afield in the VFL grand final, the 2016 Liston Trophy and the 2016 Frank Johnson Medal as best player for Victoria. He seems to collect them like some people collect stamps. If Gibbons misses on the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell he might just jag a second Liston.
Williamstown rover Michael Gibbons on the burst against the Bulldogs.
MARTY HORE, COLLINGWOOD
The 190cm left-foot defender won Collingwood’s VFL best and fairest last year but believes he’s played with more consistency and influence this season. Led the league in effective kicks and rebound 50s, and dragged in 130 marks. Seems destined to get a chance at AFL level.
Collingwood’s marking machine Marty Hore.
CALLAN WELLINGS, COLLINGWOOD
The 2017 Greater Western Victoria Rebels best and fairest stepped up to the VFL with impressive assurance, playing 17 of a possible 18 matches. Runs all day, uses the ball well and is averaging 22 possessions. Might not win it but suspect he’ll be a stronger contender next year.
Callan Wellings tackles Bulldog Mitch Wallis.
MACK RIVETT, PORT MELBOURNE
Has been on the VFL scene for a while but this year the rugged midfielder has helped the Borough overcome the departures of Toby Pinwill, Chris Cain and Sam Dwyer. Has gained mentions in the best in 10 of his 18 matches, putting him in best and fairest contention.
Nick Hind (Essendon): the half back and wingman has speed to spend and takes every chance to show it. Averaged almost 23 possession this season, and is among the VFL contingent off to the state combine.
Mack Rivett after a best-afield outing against Williamstown this season. Picture: Jenny Tserkezidis.
WILL HAYES, FOOTSCRAY BULLDOGS
The classy right-footer joined the Dogs in 2014, playing in the Chris Maple-coached premiership, and is up to 77 VFL matches. Was mentioned in draft dispatches in previous years and has been invited to this year’s state combine after a season in which he averaged 26 disposals. The son of leading horse trainer David Hayes.
Will Hayes takes the ball for the Bullies.
HAYDEN McLEAN, SANDRINGHAM
The 2017 Sandringham Dragons captain finished the season with fizz, getting in the best in five of the last six matches. His strong marking and kicking make him a forward prospect but showed his competitiveness and versatility by rucking late in the season. Will be on a few AFL draft boards given his height (198cm) and agility.
Hayden McLean playing for the Sandringham Dragons last year.
JAKE AARTS, RICHMOND
A Beaconsfield product and a survivor of the old Bendigo Gold, Aarts is relishing his role at Punt Rd as a pressure-bearing small forward, just as happy to create goals as kick them. Another VFL player tapped to go to the state combine.
Jake Aarts clawing at the Cats. Picture: David Crosling
JOSH CORBETT, WERRIBEE
In his third year in the VFL, the 190cm forward was rising fast until he suffered an eye injury against Frankston in Round 12. It ended his season at nine matches and 22 goals. Still, the AFL interest in him remains strong and he was the only VFL player asked to the national combine. Will almost certainly be drafted and so fits the “most promising’’ aspect of the medal.
Josh Corbett flys for the Bees.
BEN CAVARRA, WILLIAMSTOWN
“And Ben Cavarra…’’ In the past four years no list of VFL drafts hopefuls has been complete without the little left-footer, who since joining the Towners has developed his forward craft (has kicked 33 goals this year). The Fothergill-Round-Mitch would go with his Morrish Medal in the TAC Cup and two best and fairests at both Eastern Ranges and Frankston.
Ben Cavarra celebrates a goal for Williamstown.
LOCHLAN DICKSON, COBURG
Arrived at the City Oval with a good reputation made at Norwood in the Eastern league, and he enhanced it with a consistent season in the Lions’ back six. Averaged almost 21 disposals and used them neatly.
Lochlan Dickson of Coburg FC
KADE ANSWERTH (SANDRINGHAM)
The tough midfielder has given Sandy another strong season and is expected to figure in the finish of the best and fairest (he won the award last year and was runner-up in 2016).
Kade Answerth tackles Port strongman Izzy Conway.
ROLL CALL OF WINNERS
1989: Chris Owen, Preston
1990: Mathew Quirk, Oakleigh
1991: Ron De Iulio Box Hill Hawks
1992: Julian Shanks Williamstown
1993: Adam Williams, Sandringham
1994: Bruce Cohen, Box Hill Hawks
1995: Mark Porter, Coburg
1996: Paul Dooley, Williamstown
1997: James Puli, Werribee
1998: Andrew Shipp, Springvale
1999: Mark Passador, Springvale
2000: Michael Swan, Port Melbourne
2001: Kristian De Pasquale, Coburg
2002: Michael Firrito, Box Hill Hawks
2003: Aaron Davey, Port Melbourne
2004: Adam Fisher, Sandringham
2005: Jackson Barling, Williamstown
2006: Jason Davenport, Geelong
2007: Shane Valenti, Sandringham
2008: Robin Nahas Port Melbourne
2009: Michael Barlow, Werribee
2010: Michael Hibberd, Frankston
2011: Ahmed Saad, Northern Bullants
2012: Dean Towers, North Ballarat
2013: Kane Lambert, Northern Blues
2014: Nic Newman, Frankston
2015: Adam Marcon, Williamstown
2016: Luke Ryan, Coburg
2017: Bayley Fritsch, Casey Demons
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Hey fellas, not meaning to intrude, but have heard you've got a pretty big interest in Jacob Koschitzke.
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Is he any good? Found this article.
AFL's tall order sees prospects fast-tracked
Callum Twomey
Apr 10, 2018 12:54PM
THE COUSIN of former Saint Justin Koschitzke is one of 20 tall draft prospects taking part in a camp this week designed to fast-track the development of key position and ruck options.
Jacob Koschitzke, a 195cm swingman from the Murray Bushrangers, was selected by the AFL to be included in the three-day training stint under the tutelage of former West Coast and North Melbourne big man Drew Petrie.
While the group comprises players aged 17-19, Koschitzke, whose cousin played 200 games for St Kilda between 2001-13, is eligible for this year's NAB AFL Draft.
After dealing with knee tendinitis last year, Koschitzke had a strong pre-season and has shown an ability to play both ends of the ground.
The camp is part of a push from the AFL to have a more hands-on approach with developing talls to meet the demand for clubs searching for key position players and ruckmen.
Clubs were able to make suggestions to the League for who could be in the program, with the final selections to be made by the AFL's talent department.
The group trained at Essendon on Monday, has a session scheduled at Carlton and will also hear from Collingwood ruck duo Brodie Grundy and Mason Cox during the camp.
Other notable players at the camp include Oakleigh Chargers ruckman Bailey Griffiths, whose uncle is Port Adelaide premiership player Dean Brogan, along with Dandenong Stingrays twins Stephen and Matthew Cumming.
TALLS CAMP PROSPECTS (club, height)
Angus Rana (North Adelaide, 198.5cm)
Bailey Griffiths (Oakleigh Chargers, 200cm)
Bailey Schmidt (Dandenong Stingrays, 198.8cm)
Ben Kelly (Murray Bushrangers, 201.8cm)
Jacob Koschitzke (Murray Bushrangers, 195cm)
Jake Steele (Glenorchy, 194.7cm)
Joe Furphy (Northern Knights, 202cm)
Joe Griffiths (Sandringham Dragons, 202.4cm)
Josh Hart (West Adelaide, 205cm)
Kian Dennis (Lions Academy, 195cm)
Mark Marriot (Murray Bushrangers, 201.5cm)
Matt Conroy (Gold Coast Academy, 199.7cm)
Matthew Cumming (Dandenong Stingrays, 198.3cm)
Ryan Henkel (Gippsland Power, 200cm)
Sam Conway (Geelong Falcons, 201.5cm)
Stephen Cumming (Dandenong Stingrays, 199.2cm)
Brynn Teakle (East Fremantle, 202cm)
Tim Auckland (Launceston, 197.5cm)
Tom Hallebone (Northern Knights, 201.1cm)
Tom Jones (Glenelg, 202cm)
Tyler Watts (Greater Western Sydney Rebels, 197.9cm)
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I know stuff all about the about the other prospects in the draft or how they stack up, but he can play a bit. I'm pretty sure he made the AA team as FB earlier in the year after that State Championship thing.
Having hip surgery but will be ready to go before pre-season.
I'm guessing he'd be getting a getting his name called with your 3rd or 4th pick.
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Buckenara has Quaynor at 24 and Will Kelly wasnt in his top 30.
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That sounds more Spot On then Cal's Stupid Ratings
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What are the chances of landing Collier-Dawkins?
really liked what he's put up and fits he bill for where our first pick will be.
Have we been linked to him at all, heard any interest ect?
If Quaynor goes into the 20s which he should, thats easy, second round pick received from Carlton for Fasolo (if all reports are true)
Would love to see us take picks to the draft again and pick another ready to go jet, Collier -Dawkins is that guy.
really liked what he's put up and fits he bill for where our first pick will be.
Have we been linked to him at all, heard any interest ect?
If Quaynor goes into the 20s which he should, thats easy, second round pick received from Carlton for Fasolo (if all reports are true)
Would love to see us take picks to the draft again and pick another ready to go jet, Collier -Dawkins is that guy.
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Big thanks
Has big upside but has been pretty inconsistent. It’s hard to get linked to anyone when you’re still playing footy this time of year and our pick may be around 15.
This.
Not a fan of us taking Q early. His upside probably not as great as others because of his current physical advantages.
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That sounds much more realistic than Twomey’s tripe.
What hasn't Dereck called you yet?
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VFL 2018: the VFL’s Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal is a ticket to the AFL
Paul Amy, Leader
August 30, 2018 12:00am
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Of the 29 winners, 18 made the rise to the AFL, starting with Ron Delulio in 1991.
The medal, for the “most promising’’ 23 and under player, was introduced in 1989. It recognises two players who won both a Liston Trophy in the VFA and a Brownlow Medal in the VFA/AFL, Des Fothergill and Barry Round.
This year it has been rebadged the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal to also acknowledge Sam Mitchell, who famously won the 2002 Liston with a staggering 31 votes from 11 games. In 2016 Mitchell and Trent Cotchin were retrospectively presented with the 2012 Brownlow.
Fritsch, now starring at Melbourne, was a standout candidate for the medal last season. But this year the selection panel faced the tough task of trying to split a sterling field that included Williamstown’s 2016 JJ Liston Trophy Michael Gibbons, Collingwood defender Marty Hore, fast-rising Werribee forward Josh Corbett and highly regarded Footscray Bulldog Will Hayes.
“It was an outstanding field, just purely by the weight of numbers when you look at the particular players and their performances throughout the year,’’ VFL talent operations co-ordinator Sam Sheehan said this morning.
“You could arguably make a case for six, eight, 10 guys, all with legitimate claims to win the award. Michael Gibbons is eligible, for example, and he’s won a Liston Trophy.’’
This year’s Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal will be announced at the JJ Liston Trophy presentation at Crown Palladium on Monday, September 10.
THE CONTENDERS
MARCUS LENTINI, COBURG
The first-year Lions midfielder had an outstanding season, collecting a league equal-best 509 disposals from 18 matches. No player had more contested possessions than the Northern Knights graduate’s 254.
Coburg midfielder Marcus Lentini.
MICHAEL GIBBONS, WILLIAMSTOWN
Paul Roos drummed up some buzz about the Towners little man last week and Gibbons responded with a dazzling performance in the final round. Finished locked with Marcus Lentini for most disposals and led the VFL for clearances and inside-50s. The right-footer already has quite a medal collection: the 2015 Norm Goss Medal as best-afield in the VFL grand final, the 2016 Liston Trophy and the 2016 Frank Johnson Medal as best player for Victoria. He seems to collect them like some people collect stamps. If Gibbons misses on the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell he might just jag a second Liston.
Williamstown rover Michael Gibbons on the burst against the Bulldogs.
MARTY HORE, COLLINGWOOD
The 190cm left-foot defender won Collingwood’s VFL best and fairest last year but believes he’s played with more consistency and influence this season. Led the league in effective kicks and rebound 50s, and dragged in 130 marks. Seems destined to get a chance at AFL level.
Collingwood’s marking machine Marty Hore.
CALLAN WELLINGS, COLLINGWOOD
The 2017 Greater Western Victoria Rebels best and fairest stepped up to the VFL with impressive assurance, playing 17 of a possible 18 matches. Runs all day, uses the ball well and is averaging 22 possessions. Might not win it but suspect he’ll be a stronger contender next year.
Callan Wellings tackles Bulldog Mitch Wallis.
MACK RIVETT, PORT MELBOURNE
Has been on the VFL scene for a while but this year the rugged midfielder has helped the Borough overcome the departures of Toby Pinwill, Chris Cain and Sam Dwyer. Has gained mentions in the best in 10 of his 18 matches, putting him in best and fairest contention.
Nick Hind (Essendon): the half back and wingman has speed to spend and takes every chance to show it. Averaged almost 23 possession this season, and is among the VFL contingent off to the state combine.
Mack Rivett after a best-afield outing against Williamstown this season. Picture: Jenny Tserkezidis.
WILL HAYES, FOOTSCRAY BULLDOGS
The classy right-footer joined the Dogs in 2014, playing in the Chris Maple-coached premiership, and is up to 77 VFL matches. Was mentioned in draft dispatches in previous years and has been invited to this year’s state combine after a season in which he averaged 26 disposals. The son of leading horse trainer David Hayes.
Will Hayes takes the ball for the Bullies.
HAYDEN McLEAN, SANDRINGHAM
The 2017 Sandringham Dragons captain finished the season with fizz, getting in the best in five of the last six matches. His strong marking and kicking make him a forward prospect but showed his competitiveness and versatility by rucking late in the season. Will be on a few AFL draft boards given his height (198cm) and agility.
Hayden McLean playing for the Sandringham Dragons last year.
JAKE AARTS, RICHMOND
A Beaconsfield product and a survivor of the old Bendigo Gold, Aarts is relishing his role at Punt Rd as a pressure-bearing small forward, just as happy to create goals as kick them. Another VFL player tapped to go to the state combine.
Jake Aarts clawing at the Cats. Picture: David Crosling
JOSH CORBETT, WERRIBEE
In his third year in the VFL, the 190cm forward was rising fast until he suffered an eye injury against Frankston in Round 12. It ended his season at nine matches and 22 goals. Still, the AFL interest in him remains strong and he was the only VFL player asked to the national combine. Will almost certainly be drafted and so fits the “most promising’’ aspect of the medal.
Josh Corbett flys for the Bees.
BEN CAVARRA, WILLIAMSTOWN
“And Ben Cavarra…’’ In the past four years no list of VFL drafts hopefuls has been complete without the little left-footer, who since joining the Towners has developed his forward craft (has kicked 33 goals this year). The Fothergill-Round-Mitch would go with his Morrish Medal in the TAC Cup and two best and fairests at both Eastern Ranges and Frankston.
Ben Cavarra celebrates a goal for Williamstown.
LOCHLAN DICKSON, COBURG
Arrived at the City Oval with a good reputation made at Norwood in the Eastern league, and he enhanced it with a consistent season in the Lions’ back six. Averaged almost 21 disposals and used them neatly.
Lochlan Dickson of Coburg FC
KADE ANSWERTH (SANDRINGHAM)
The tough midfielder has given Sandy another strong season and is expected to figure in the finish of the best and fairest (he won the award last year and was runner-up in 2016).
Kade Answerth tackles Port strongman Izzy Conway.
ROLL CALL OF WINNERS
1989: Chris Owen, Preston
1990: Mathew Quirk, Oakleigh
1991: Ron De Iulio Box Hill Hawks
1992: Julian Shanks Williamstown
1993: Adam Williams, Sandringham
1994: Bruce Cohen, Box Hill Hawks
1995: Mark Porter, Coburg
1996: Paul Dooley, Williamstown
1997: James Puli, Werribee
1998: Andrew Shipp, Springvale
1999: Mark Passador, Springvale
2000: Michael Swan, Port Melbourne
2001: Kristian De Pasquale, Coburg
2002: Michael Firrito, Box Hill Hawks
2003: Aaron Davey, Port Melbourne
2004: Adam Fisher, Sandringham
2005: Jackson Barling, Williamstown
2006: Jason Davenport, Geelong
2007: Shane Valenti, Sandringham
2008: Robin Nahas Port Melbourne
2009: Michael Barlow, Werribee
2010: Michael Hibberd, Frankston
2011: Ahmed Saad, Northern Bullants
2012: Dean Towers, North Ballarat
2013: Kane Lambert, Northern Blues
2014: Nic Newman, Frankston
2015: Adam Marcon, Williamstown
2016: Luke Ryan, Coburg
2017: Bayley Fritsch, Casey Demons
Contrary to others I think there is a lot of overt and hidden ready made talent in the state leagues
Would like us to take both Hore and Wellings... but sense with Howe, Shaz, Langdon, Appleby... that we'll stupidly pass on mid sized defender Hore and are more likely to take Wellings with a late draft pick or our 1st rookie pick.
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I agree 100% mate.
How good has Mihocek been when we seriously needed him this year.
If we miss out on Lynch I would be happy to find another “Mihocek” again.
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